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jojomk1
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by jojomk1 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:57 pm
Mattster wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:32 pm
This is a discussion on a player linked with a move, isn't it?
It was
Until the other one was deleted
Now they have morphed together
Happy days
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billyhamilton82
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by billyhamilton82 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:56 pm
kentonclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:45 pm
Thread Bugs.
Pesky little critters aren’t they.
Negative Nigel's can't help themselves
Friend & Foe works a treat, this thread is now only 7 pages long

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FeedTheArf
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by FeedTheArf » Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:05 pm
Holtyclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:02 pm
If he gets his mojo back and does well, gets lots of gametime , experience and confidence it’s very much not to our financial detriment. If he’s not going to feature much this season having part of his wages paid than none is better too.
The key piece of information that we don’t know is if there are other potential moves for him that would be more financially beneficial for the club, or are we just helping Espanyol out.
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Holtyclaret
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by Holtyclaret » Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:27 pm
FeedTheArf wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:05 pm
The key piece of information that we don’t know is if there are other potential moves for him that would be more financially beneficial for the club, or are we just helping Espanyol out.
Best all round lad just gets playing again and I’m sure we’ve not turned down acceptable bids to help anyone.
More likely that we’re still keen on retaining a young talent for future profit and view this as his continued development.
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Tricky Trevor
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by Tricky Trevor » Wed Aug 20, 2025 11:09 pm
Playing at a level slightly less physical than the PL but with hundreds of quality players is better than dropping into the Championship. He has done nothing, since his injury to warrant a spot even on the bench, and I include his Leeds goal in that comment. That was just pace and a decent finish.
Hopefully he gets his mojo back and returns the player he was two years ago.
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Goobs
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by Goobs » Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:11 am
Was he ever all that though?
I seem to remember saying at the time that I couldn't understand how he was getting in the team ahead of Odobert.
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ClaretOfMancunia
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by ClaretOfMancunia » Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:39 am
I think it's a reasonable move as long as we get market value in return for his loan - and we're not subsidising more than we would a loan to an unrelated club.
TBH - although he's clearly got talent and bags of pace, he's been pretty poor and a frustrating watch. Not sure how he's the spark of creativity people claim - more often than not he seems to run into blind alleys with the ball and ends up losing it.
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jlup1980
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by jlup1980 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:57 am
I like Luca, but he's extremely limited and isn't a big loss if he goes. He has pace, he can get you off your seat, but ultimately he runs down blind alleys and produces very little. That's why SP dropped him last season. In hindsight, it was a huge mistake not selling him last summer. He now needs another challenge to kickstart his career. I'd like to see Benson, Banel, and Agyei move on as well. These guys are just taking up squad places without actually offering the first team anything.
In other news...
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/ipswi ... g-enquiry/
Billing is a big lad, with lots of PL experience under his belt. If he's available, I'd like to think we're having a look!
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ollieclarets8
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by ollieclarets8 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:58 am
ClaretOfMancunia wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:39 am
TBH - although he's clearly got talent and bags of pace, he's been pretty poor and a frustrating watch. Not sure how he's the spark of creativity people claim - more often than not he seems to run into blind alleys with the ball and ends up losing it.
It's why I think he may perform better through the middle. He'd have more options to release it earlier but he'd need the right formation and players around him.
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ClaretOfMancunia
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by ClaretOfMancunia » Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:23 am
ollieclarets8 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:58 am
It's why I think he may perform better through the middle. He'd have more options to release it earlier but he'd need the right formation and players around him.
Perhaps you're right. What's his natural position anyway?
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Steve-Harpers-perm
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by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:25 am
jlup1980 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:57 am
I like Luca, but he's extremely limited and isn't a big loss if he goes. He has pace, he can get you off your seat, but ultimately he runs down blind alleys and produces very little. That's why SP dropped him last season. In hindsight, it was a huge mistake not selling him last summer. He now needs another challenge to kickstart his career. I'd like to see Benson, Banel, and Agyei move on as well. These guys are just taking up squad places without actually offering the first team anything.
In other news...
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/ipswi ... g-enquiry/
Billing is a big lad, with lots of PL experience under his belt. If he's available, I'd like to think we're having a look!
You’d think we’d be in for Billing if he is available. Presuming he played under Parker at Bournemouth?
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Hapag Lloyd
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by Hapag Lloyd » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:21 am
jlup1980 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:57 am
I like Luca, but he's extremely limited and isn't a big loss if he goes. He has pace, he can get you off your seat, but ultimately he runs down blind alleys and produces very little. That's why SP dropped him last season. In hindsight, it was a huge mistake not selling him last summer. He now needs another challenge to kickstart his career. I'd like to see Benson, Banel, and Agyei move on as well. These guys are just taking up squad places without actually offering the first team anything.
In other news...
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/ipswi ... g-enquiry/
Billing is a big lad, with lots of PL experience under his belt. If he's available, I'd like to think we're having a look!
Banel and Agyei are both just 20 so don’t need a squad place.
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by jrgbfc » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:33 am
Don't really know anything about Banel, but Agyei looked a million miles away from even being Championship level. I know its the ALK "model" but i don't see the point in stockpiling all these lads who are never going to play for us.
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agreenwood
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by agreenwood » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:42 am
Are we still discussing Koleosho or just having a natter?
Can we bring back the other thread from all this claptrap?
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Mattster
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by Mattster » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:54 am
jlup1980 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:57 am
I like Luca, but he's extremely limited and isn't a big loss if he goes. He has pace, he can get you off your seat, but ultimately he runs down blind alleys and produces very little. That's why SP dropped him last season. In hindsight, it was a huge mistake not selling him last summer. He now needs another challenge to kickstart his career. I'd like to see Benson, Banel, and Agyei move on as well. These guys are just taking up squad places without actually offering the first team anything.
Names 4 wingers he wants to move on, saying they "take up squad places without offering the first team anything"
3 of them do not take up squad places due to their age...
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RVclaret
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by RVclaret » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:58 am
BBC article here suggesting ‘that will be that’ with regards to our summer business. Must say I’m not convinced by that. Loan market is there even if big money transfers aren’t.
‘Burnley have secured 13 permanent transfers this summer in a bid to survive in the Premier League, with sources suggesting that will be that unless a deal appears that they cannot resist’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 36j3d4rn7o
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Steddyman
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by Steddyman » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:15 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:58 am
BBC article here suggesting ‘that will be that’ with regards to our summer business. Must say I’m not convinced by that. Loan market is there even if big money transfers aren’t.
‘Burnley have secured 13 permanent transfers this summer in a bid to survive in the Premier League, with sources suggesting that will be that unless a deal appears that they cannot resist’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 36j3d4rn7o
The lack of any rumours in the past week suggests we are now not actively seeking any more reinforcements. Hence that this thread has degenerated into the usual bickering.
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claretonthecoast1882
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:18 am
Steddyman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:15 am
The lack of any rumours in the past week suggests we are now not actively seeking any more reinforcements. Hence that this thread has degenerated into the usual bickering.
There have been quite a few signings in the last few weeks where nothing was said rumour wise then a story broke someone was signing.
Just because there aren't rumours doesn't mean the club aren't looking.
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burnley007
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by burnley007 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:18 am
I am assuming that we have got the basic structure of the squad sorted and are giving the players time together to work on formations/movements etc without any interruptions.
I would still expect us to add to the squad, but I like the idea of giving the manager and players time to work together and gel.
Hopefully we will start to see the improvements on Saturday afternoon...
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by ollieclarets8 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:20 am
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:18 am
There have been quite a few signings in the last few weeks where nothing was said rumour wise then a story broke someone was signing.
Just because there aren't rumours doesn't mean the club aren't looking.
What he said.
Nothing was mentioned about Walker for instance until the last minute. Pretty sure we'll bring in 1-2 more even if it's a loan.
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Commy
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by Commy » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:59 am
A Championship team tried to sign Billing last season but he wasn't prepared to drop down a league. I can't remember who it was.