New Stadium

[jrgbfc]

Would rip the heart out of the club and the town if we moved. Ask West Ham fans what they think of their shiny new stadium.

[dvalley69]

Why do people always use the word "soulless" when talking about certain grounds?
What does that even mean?
Only saw brief pictures today, but I bet there aren't many Everton fans pining for their old ground today.
I have been going on the Turf since 1970 but would not miss it one bit if we moved to a new and better ground.

I bet there are. Give it 50 years when there's no memory of Goodison left from those going but if we're talking today then I'd guess there are many pining for their old ground.

[Darnhill Claret]

Build a temporary 'LEGO' style stadium at Crow Wood. When it is ready, we move there, and stay there until Turf Moor is demolished and rebuilt, when we move back to TURF MOOR.

There will be more than adequate corporate facilities, and a designated away fan section, nowhere near to the dressing rooms.
All the other bits and pieces, too many to mention, hopefully not done on the cheap. Competitive pricing required.

[dvalley69]

Well I think estate agents (realtors as we are American now) would describe the existing arena as ‘tired’ at best, and you can’t knock it down and build a replacement in the space of a season break.

Like it or not, at some point, IMHO it’s going to move.

ALK are right to have a five year plan.

If that is the case then we'll have been lied to. All their talk of respecting the traditions, history and community spirit of the club will have been just words. Our ground is in the heart of the community, in the city centre within touching distance of the folk of the town. Move it to the outskirts near a motorway & it is plastic & soulless, as already mentioned. Modern stadia fundamentally are all the same: needed for commercial & hospitality space. We'll be just like a bigger version of a Doncaster because realistically we'll never be able to have a ground with more than 25,000 capacity. What's the point in moving coz we ain't gonna more people in. A classic way of leaving our community roots behind.

[Andreshotboots]

Would rip the heart out of the club and the town if we moved. Ask West Ham fans what they think of their shiny new stadium.

Or you could ask Arsenal, Spurs, Sunderland, Coventry, Everton fans etc what they think of theirs?

Their clubs heart seems ok, and I bet they don't miss their old run down grounds one bit.

[jrgbfc]

Or you could ask Arsenal, Spurs, Sunderland, Coventry, Everton fans etc what they think of theirs?

Their clubs heart seems ok, and I bet they don't miss their old run down grounds one bit.

Tbf i was talking more about the out of town grounds. Hate going to places like Stoke and Coventry now, pain in the neck on the train, nowhere to have a drink. Strongly believe it would be a disaster for us. For lots of people the day out drinking with their mates is as important as the footy.

[Pickles]

The day Burnley play their home games at a bowl on an industrial estate next to a Pizza Hut is the day I probably pack it in.

[forzagranata]

The day Burnley play their home games at a bowl on an industrial estate next to a Pizza Hut is the day I probably pack it in.

You would have hated FC Dallas' suburban stadium which actually used to be called Pizza Hut Park.....

I'm sure we'll end up with a naming rights deal for the Turf at some stage.

There are a few in the US that manage to keep the original name along with the sponsored one - The Krispy Kreme Arena at Turf Moor kind of thing.

[mybloodisclaret]

They've already drawn up plans and reviewed suitable land down by crow wood, and also up by Hapton. 5 year plan

Is this a wind up?

[Pickles]

You would have hated FC Dallas' suburban stadium which actually used to be called Pizza Hut Park.....

I'm sure we'll end up with a naming rights deal for the Turf at some stage.

There are a few in the US that manage to keep the original name along with the sponsored one - The Krispy Kreme Arena at Turf Moor kind of thing.

Surprised the naming rights to the Turf weren't sold a few years ago. I'd dislike it but I feel like it's inevitable. They've changed the badge, the colours...

[1989_claret]

The X (formerly known as Twitter) Stadium

[BurnleyFC]

The X (formerly known as Twitter) Stadium

If Musk would be willing to pay for it, I’m all in.

[IanMcL]

Move from Tuef Moor and the walk won't be done.

Turf Moor is an iconic stadium which all fans should visit to absorb its history.

[Clovius Boofus]

Build a temporary 'LEGO' style stadium at Crow Wood.

I don't think the owners of Crow Wood would be very happy about that.

[Row x]

Move from Tuef Moor and the walk won't be done.

Turf Moor is an iconic stadium which all fans should visit to absorb its history.

Maine road, goodison park, roker park, the Dell, and many more, iconic stadiums replaced....and still get filled.
I wouldn't want to move, but if we ever become an established premier league club, its probably inevitable.

[CoolClaret]

Maine road, goodison park, roker park, the Dell, and many more, iconic stadiums replaced....and still get filled.
I wouldn't want to move, but if we ever become an established premier league club, its probably inevitable.

How many of them hosted games in the inaugural season of the football league, 1888?

Turf Moor is football heritage.

[Row x]

How many of them hosted games in the inaugural season of the football league, 1888?

Turf Moor is football heritage.

Goodison possibly
Another 3 or 4 of the founder members of the football league have moved grounds.

[dvalley69]

Maine road, goodison park, roker park, the Dell, and many more, iconic stadiums replaced....and still get filled.
I wouldn't want to move, but if we ever become an established premier league club, its probably inevitable.

And only one of those clubs listed is better off coz they've got oil money & a state behind them, not because of a spanking new stadium. Many clubs have stayed put & redeveloped, and are doing just fine: Fulham, Bournemouth, Wolves, Palace, Forest etc.

[NottsClaret]

All hypothetical at the moment, but whereas I’m sure a new stadium near the M65 would do well and increase revenue streams for an ownership group somewhere.. it’d be the end of me going. Which obviously isn’t a reason not to do it, a low spending legacy fan not attending is a bonus, not a reason against.

Take away the tradition, routine and history of going to the Turf and you’re then paying a fortune to watch your preferred franchise play soccer in another identikit bowl.

[CoolClaret]

Goodison possibly
Another 3 or 4 of the founder members of the football league have moved grounds.

It's just us and PNE.

[Simps]

New stadium sponser DUREX
The Erection Stadium

That’s got CWR Scaffolds written all over it

[Procrastinate B]

I watched Everton’s game and the architect was given strict instructions regarding the acoustics in the stadium. We didn’t think that through with the newer stands and it took the longest time for us to cotton on that the away fans held the advantage when it came to atmosphere.

If we can get a new stand housing the noisier Clarets, built to bounce that noise back down again I don’t think we need to leave. It’s been discussed going back to the ‘90s, if I remember correctly, but cost more than anything probably halted that.

Anyway, I’m rambling. I doubt we’ll leave, but it will definitely have been broached as an option.

[Row x]

It's just us and PNE.

Bolton, derby, stoke all have moved grounds

[Simps]

Would rip the heart out of the club and the town if we moved. Ask West Ham fans what they think of their shiny new stadium.

The difference being they wasn’t built for West Ham, it was built for a completely different purpose (nothing to do with football) and they just moved into it instead of it becoming a white elephant.

Arsenal, Tottenham, Sunderland, Southampton, Everton to name a few - all built for the club, and I bet not many if those fans are pining for their old ground back

[Row x]

And only one of those clubs listed is better off coz they've got oil money & a state behind them, not because of a spanking new stadium. Many clubs have stayed put & redeveloped, and are doing just fine: Fulham, Bournemouth, Wolves, Palace, Forest etc.

Don't disagree, I was just answering a post

[CoolClaret]

Bolton, derby, stoke all have moved grounds

Exactly.

So as I said - Football Heritage, which is to be revered.

These things matter.

[CoolClaret]

The difference being they wasn’t built for West Ham, it was built for a completely different purpose (nothing to do with football) and they just moved into it instead of it becoming a white elephant.

Arsenal, Tottenham, Sunderland, Southampton, Everton to name a few - all built for the club, and I bet not many if those fans are pining for their old ground back

Spurs' is right next to their old ground.

Always hear/see Sunderland, Arsenal and Southampton fans talking about how much they preferred Roker/Highbury/The Dell!

[jrgbfc]

The difference being they wasn’t built for West Ham, it was built for a completely different purpose (nothing to do with football) and they just moved into it instead of it becoming a white elephant.

Arsenal, Tottenham, Sunderland, Southampton, Everton to name a few - all built for the club, and I bet not many if those fans are pining for their old ground back

I'm sure there's plenty of Arsenal/Spurs fans who have been priced out or fed up of being stuck next to tourists every week, but thats another argument!
I'm not against a new ground, just moving up to somewhere like Hapton. Like NottsClaret said further up it would probably be the end of me going.

[Simps]

I'm sure there's plenty of Arsenal/Spurs fans who have been priced out or fed up of being stuck next to tourists every week, but thats another argument!
I'm not against a new ground, just moving up to somewhere like Hapton. Like NottsClaret said further up it would probably be the end of me going.

I wouldn’t care where we are, I’m going to watch my team play and will have a season ticket as long as I can afford one regardless of where we play.

Time moves on, and if that’s what’s required to move the club forward then so be it.

[Row x]

I wouldn’t care where we are, I’m going to watch my team play and will have a season ticket as long as I can afford one regardless of where we play.

Time moves on, and if that’s what’s required to move the club forward then so be it.

Exactly

[The Shire Claret]

I don’t think we will ever move from Turf Moor

And I don’t think we will ever need to

[BleedingClaret]

Exactly[/

142 years
And then some Johnny come latelys , with borrowed money, think they can ride in make a quick buck and to f@ck with Burnley the town and its people

[Row x]

If you read what the poster said, they said if required. That could could be in 10 years time, with new owners, or it might be never. As I've already said, I'd prefer not to move, but success might dictate it.
You wouldn't be against us being successful would you? Surely not.

[BleedingClaret]

Well I think estate agents (realtors as we are American now) would describe the existing arena as ‘tired’ at best, and you can’t knock it down and build a replacement in the space of a season break.

Like it or not, at some point, IMHO it’s going to move.

ALK are right to have a five year plan.

ALK need to concentrate on not losing the ground and other BFC assets they have used as security for loans

[BleedingClaret]

If you read what the poster said, they said if required. That could could be in 10 years time, with new owners, or it might be never. As I've already said, I'd prefer not to move, but success might dictate it.
You wouldn't be against us being successful would you? Surely not.

I’m equally as concerned in the future of the town as the football club

[Row x]

I’m equally as concerned in the future of the town as the football club

I'm sure it'll survive..

[BleedingClaret]

I'm sure it'll survive..

Rather it thrived

[ecc]

The difference being they wasn’t built for West Ham, it was built for a completely different purpose (nothing to do with football) and they just moved into it instead of it becoming a white elephant.

And pay top dollar for it as well.

[Elizabeth]

I wouldn’t care where we are, I’m going to watch my team play and will have a season ticket as long as I can afford one regardless of where we play.

Time moves on, and if that’s what’s required to move the club forward then so be it.

Maybe let's first see if the current owners move the club forward in the now. I would suggest 2 relegations from the PL since they took over means they have much to do to even establish us as a PL club. No harm in the club having ambitions but I don't think I'm going to get emotionally attached to these ambitions just yet.

[Row x]

Rather it thrived

When was the last time Burnley as a town was thriving.

Being brutally honest lots of fans have no loyalty to the town whatsoever, we visit for football, spend money in maybe one place, go to the game and go home. I want the football club to be successful, and if it is, the town won't suffer from where its at now, its the other 340 days a year without football it needs to be concerned about.

[Goliath]

Had a quick nosey at the Brighton forum to see their view of the new Everton ground. It's about 90 percent negative as I expected.

I'd hate for us to move, I don't think it's possible to recreate the feeling of a traditional ground, regardless of how steep you make the stands.

[Goliath]

When was the last time Burnley as a town was thriving.

Being brutally honest lots of fans have no loyalty to the town whatsoever, we visit for football, spend money in maybe one place, go to the game and go home. I want the football club to be successful, and if it is, the town won't suffer from where its at now, its the other 340 days a year without football it needs to be concerned about.

If you don't support the town then I don't really see how you can support the club with the same level of passion. One of the big reasons I want us to do well is to see the town thrive.

[Row x]

If you don't support the town then I don't really see how you can support the club with the same level of passion. One of the big reasons I want us to do well is to see the town thrive.

So i don't have the same passion as someone who lives in the town?
I certainly didn't walk away on Saturday thinking what a great win, that'll do the town good.

[BleedingClaret]

When was the last time Burnley as a town was thriving.

Being brutally honest lots of fans have no loyalty to the town whatsoever, we visit for football, spend money in maybe one place, go to the game and go home. I want the football club to be successful, and if it is, the town won't suffer from where its at now, its the other 340 days a year without football it needs to be concerned about.

Only have to look at the Royal Dyche thread and compare that as a symbioctic experience with the Turf and compare to parking on an Retail Car Park, or having to go on a fan bus, and having a choice of Starbucks and McDonald’s

[taio]

Many local businesses rely on football supporters. I can see why every home game.

[Goliath]

So i don't have the same passion as someone who lives in the town?
I certainly didn't walk away on Saturday thinking what a great win, that'll do the town good.

Not what I said. If you don't care about the town itself then no you don't.

[Elizabeth]

When was the last time Burnley as a town was thriving.

Being brutally honest lots of fans have no loyalty to the town whatsoever, we visit for football, spend money in maybe one place, go to the game and go home. I want the football club to be successful, and if it is, the town won't suffer from where its at now, its the other 340 days a year without football it needs to be concerned about.

Still trying to work out whether your position at BFC is paid or unpaid

[Row x]

Only have to look at the Royal Dyche thread and compare that as a symbioctic experience with the Turf and compare to parking on an Retail Car Park, or having to go on a fan bus, and having a choice of Starbucks and McDonald’s

Like I said, I'd prefer not to move, but would happily put up with it if meant we'd been successful over a number of years and had outgrown turf Moor.

[Row x]

Still trying to work out whether your position at BFC is paid or unpaid

As I've said several times now, but again just in case you didn't read it.....I'd prefer not to move....
Now how does that fit in with your ridiculous post.

[BleedingClaret]

Like I said, I'd prefer not to move, but would happily put up with it if meant we'd been successful over a number of years and had outgrown turf Moor.

Have to disagree
Sacred to me
50 years and counting