What now for James Trafford?

[BurnleyFC]

JT would have been told exactly what the situation is. There’s plenty of games for both of them with the Cups/EPL/CL. Donnarumma has also yet to play in any kind of decent league. Different playing Sat/Midweek/Sat, big game, after bug game.

There’s a huge difference between joining a club alongside a 31-year-old first choice that is on the wane and wants out compared to already being at a club who then decide just four weeks into your tenure to buy one of the best goalkeepers in the world, a goalkeeper that has already won it all and is only 4 years your senior.

He’s been stitched up.

[Goliath]

I think theyll end up having to let him go. He left City because he wasn't playing, there's no way he's gone back to happily sit on the bench for a few years with the odd cup game thrown in.

I read something about them expecting Trafford to gradually take over from Ederson but Ederson wanting to go scuppered that.
It looks like Donarumma is a rare opportunity signing where you get given the chance to sign a world class player at his peak for a really good fee that's hard to turn down.

[Shaggy]

Trafford isn’t anywhere near a top 10 premier league keeper. Still acts like a vampire and not the best with his feet or decisions.

We have done well to sell him and sign a big improvement over him for this season.

[Woodleyclaret]

He digs in and fights for his place.City are making some horrendous choices with their selections and Peps blind spot about improving a porous defence

[Jakubclaret]

He digs in and fights for his place.City are making some horrendous choices with their selections and Peps blind spot about improving a porous defence

He's stuck now until at least January he's got no other choice it gives him a few months.

[Cooclaret]

The way he was treated by alot of Burnley 'fans' in that first season in the Premier League, James Trafford couldn't wait to get out the place, even a brilliant, following season didn't change that and I don't blame him.

[Ampth7]

What now for Trafford? A light blue coloured Recaro seat at the emtihad………

He should have gone to Newcastle I reckon, because Pope is hopeless with his feet which would have given Trafford a better chance of nailing down the number 1 jersey. Alternatively, another season with us wouldn’t have been such a bad idea except for his bank balance.

Instead, he will be number 2/3 for the rest of this season before having to move on again I suspect.

[Cooclaret]

Trafford isn’t anywhere near a top 10 premier league keeper. Still acts like a vampire and not the best with his feet or decisions.

We have done well to sell him and sign a big improvement over him for this season.

Christ on a bike. Give up drinking on days ending in a Y.

[Cooclaret]

Reading this thread tells you how toxic a fan base we are.

JT is fine, frustrated but fine. His development will continue, both for Man City and England.

He will no #1 for both for many years to come.

[dougcollins]

He needed a solid season in the prem- should probably have stayed with us.

But it is how it is, he'll just have to work it out.

[Wokingclaret]

He needed a solid season in the prem- should probably have stayed with us.

But it is how it is, he'll just have to work it out.

However, we probably needed the money

[Murger]

I think he can kiss his World Cup spot goodbye if he’s #2 for the season.

[Jakubclaret]

However, we probably needed the money

That's very true it served a mutual benefit. I think if he would have declared happiness & insisted he wanted to stay as soon as the likes of Newcastle & Man city started offering the sums mentioned it wouldn't have gone down too well not that would have likely happened.

[blatherwickstattoos]

David eyers is very very happy. Trafford will end up at a mid table prem side but still get England caps. He’s not ready for the top 3 yet. Or maybe ever.

[Vegas Claret]

6 year deal for Donnarumma
Gundogan gone to Galatasary on a free

[Procrastinate B]

Traff isn’t naive. He’d know to keep the number one spot, he’d have to compete with top-class competition.
He was trained into that mindset, so he’s not going to be spitting his dummy or feeling sorry for himself. Frustrated? Maybe, but if his trajectory is as many expect this will be his environment for his career.

[superdimitri]

So Trafford who had one good season in men's football is being compared to Gianluigi Donnarumma?
As confident as he is, even he won't think he has a chance.
But at least he has one of the best goalkeepers in the world to learn from and if he gets injured he gets a chance.

[beeholeclaret]

There’s a huge difference between joining a club alongside a 31-year-old first choice that is on the wane and wants out compared to already being at a club who then decide just four weeks into your tenure to buy one of the best goalkeepers in the world, a goalkeeper that has already won it all and is only 4 years your senior.

He’s been stitched up.

I wish somebody would stitch me up for £100,000 a week!

[Dyched]

There’s a huge difference between joining a club alongside a 31-year-old first choice that is on the wane and wants out compared to already being at a club who then decide just four weeks into your tenure to buy one of the best goalkeepers in the world, a goalkeeper that has already won it all and is only 4 years your senior.

He’s been stitched up.

Like I said. He would have been told what was happening. They’re looking at, at least 48 games. Both will get game time. People are just taking it as Pep has said to him he’s number 1, then signed another gk behind his back. Won’t have happened.

[Swizzlestick]

Like I said. He would have been told what was happening. They’re looking at, at least 48 games. Both will get game time. People are just taking it as Pep has said to him he’s number 1, then signed another gk behind his back. Won’t have happened.

Dunno, that does appear to be exactly what’s happened.

[fatboy47]

He's over 18 now....maybe time to dry our tears and let him wipe his own arse...which I'm sure he can.

[ISpeds00]

Man City is Pep's "toy"
He has no interest in the individuals - and no loyalty to any player

Signed Grealish for 100M and got shut quick - small change

[ISpeds00]

Christ on a bike. Give up drinking on days ending in a Y.

He's not a European standard keeper - YET
Therefore most teams that qualified for EU football, have a better keeper already - which is most of the top 10

[boyyanno]

Trafford was bought because he's English and home grown, he's a good keeper and he'll have an excellent career but he's a long way off being good enough for a team that can afford to have the best player in the world in every position right now.

[BleedingClaret]

6 year deal for Donnarumma
Gundogan gone to Galatasary on a free

he was way too short to go in the nets anyway

[Goliath]

Like I said. He would have been told what was happening. They’re looking at, at least 48 games. Both will get game time. People are just taking it as Pep has said to him he’s number 1, then signed another gk behind his back. Won’t have happened.

Was Donnaruma even available when Trafford went. I seriously doubt he'd been told about that idea before he signed.
He'd surely have been much better going to Newcastle to compete with Pope in this scenario.

[LincsWoldsClaret]

Donnarumma has always played behind world class defenders, so hasn’t been that exposed. He may be the one who’s not ready for the Premier League.

[getbennyon]

Over time people will realise the fee we got for James Trafford is the greatest pice of business in the history of Burnley Football Club.

[Dyched]

Man City is Pep's "toy"
He has no interest in the individuals - and no loyalty to any player

Signed Grealish for 100M and got shut quick - small change

If you’re “loyal” to players, you end up like Fat Sam/Dychey/Pulis.

[Big Vinny K]

Donnarumma has always played behind world class defenders, so hasn’t been that exposed. He may be the one who’s not ready for the Premier League.

Really ?
Have you seen the Italian national team defence in the last few years ?
He’s been exposed just as much as any top class keeper has since he broke through and for someone still so young he’s had a huge amount of experience and also has the added benefit of learning from one of the best keepers in history in Buffon.

None of that means he will necessarily be a success at City as we have seen with a lot of keepers who have struggled when they come to this league from other countries. He’s definitely got a big mistake in him but as anyone who watched him in the champions league last year could see there are games when he looks unbeatable

[Enola Gay]

I’d love to know exactly what reaction Trafford got from the stands last time we were in the Premier League to justify digs like’fans’ and a toxic fanbase to be used.

All I remember is the same kind of groans and murmurings for errors that every other player got when they ballsed up, and if we’re saying that was too much then some people haven’t so much lost perspective as are denying they’ve ever met it. It’s like the Laws at Barnsley scenario where some abuse from the crowd was eventually described like he’d been dragged off by a baying mob to a guillotine.

City have sold a world-class goalkeeper. If Trafford really thought they were going to go into all the competitions they’re in this season with just him as unchallenged number one and no-one else coming in, someone give me his number because I’ve got a bridge in London that’ll be right up his street.

[Claretfanatic1982]

I’d love to know exactly what reaction Trafford got from the stands last time we were in the Premier League to justify digs like’fans’ and a toxic fanbase to be used.

All I remember is the same kind of groans and murmurings for errors that every other player got when they ballsed up, and if we’re saying that was too much then some people haven’t so much lost perspective as are denying they’ve ever met it. It’s like the Laws at Barnsley scenario where some abuse from the crowd was eventually described like he’d been dragged off by a baying mob to a guillotine.

Give over, it was far from the same as what other players were recieving.
Nearly every game we had fans shouting Muric during the team announcement. It was even happening when he touched the ball even when he had not made a mistake.
I also watched a game from home due to illness and could hear fans shouting Muric. Trafford was also getting booed during the team announcement.

It was happening almost every game and no other players were getting the same treatment.

[Dyched]

Was Donnaruma even available when Trafford went. I seriously doubt he'd been told about that idea before he signed.
He'd surely have been much better going to Newcastle to compete with Pope in this scenario.

Like I said. 48 games minimum. Fighting to win 4 trophies (doesn’t matter wether they’re favourites or not, that’s the aim). You don’t do that with one GK. If they get to the finals of all comps that’s 65 games. He could play 50% of those and play more football than he will at Newcastle.

[The Shire Claret]

Give over, it was far from the same as what other players were recieving.
Nearly every game we had fans shouting Muric during the team announcement. It was even happening when he touched the ball even when he had not made a mistake.
I also watched a game from home due to illness and could hear fans shouting Muric. Trafford was also getting booed during the team announcement.

It was happening almost every game and no other players were getting the same treatment.

I agree with this ... He was bombarded

I found it embarrassing

[Rileybobs]

I’d love to know exactly what reaction Trafford got from the stands last time we were in the Premier League to justify digs like’fans’ and a toxic fanbase to be used.

All I remember is the same kind of groans and murmurings for errors that every other player got when they ballsed up, and if we’re saying that was too much then some people haven’t so much lost perspective as are denying they’ve ever met it. It’s like the Laws at Barnsley scenario where some abuse from the crowd was eventually described like he’d been dragged off by a baying mob to a guillotine.

To be fair I can't recall many instances where a Burnley players name has been booed by our fans when the starting lineups were read out.

[CoolClaret]

The Muric chants whilst Trafford was playing were very distasteful - admittedly, I didn't think Traff deserved his place in the side (vocal about it on here as some will remember!), nor did his performances warrant keeping him in the side, but the sneering / chanting against one of our own players at games was and always will be wrong.

[beddie]

Well if for some reason he’s not happy come January perhaps the Toon will come calling.

[fatboy47]

Over time people will realise the fee we got for James Trafford is the greatest pice of business in the history of Burnley Football Club.

Nah....what we got was probably about right...if a bit fortuitous......Ian Moore however is a different story...I'd wager Steve Cotterill is still dining out on that...50k for Moore was a piece of buisness that made Dick Turpin look like Bo Peep.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Nah....what we got was probably about right...if a bit fortuitous......Ian Moore however is a different story...I'd wager Steve Cotterill is still dining out on that...50k for Moore was a piece of buisness that made Dick Turpin look like Bo Peep.

Can't remember if it was this century or the last one but I bet nobody has dined out on paying 1m for him

[Andreshotboots]

The amount of competitions City go deep in, he will still get plenty of games and it wouldn't surprise me if they're both rotated in the league too.

Against the weaker sides, he may opt for Trafford who's far better with his feet, but against the better sides he may opt for the new keeper who's probably a better "keeper" at this moment.

[Rick_Muller]

The amount of competitions City go deep in, he will still get plenty of games and it wouldn't surprise me if they're both rotated in the league too.

Against the weaker sides, he may opt for Trafford who's far better with his feet, but against the better sides he may opt for the new keeper who's probably a better "keeper" at this moment.

Oh do stop talking sense, this is a place for an argument

[Ric_C]

He got bit of clog, nothing more nothing less. It was more frustration of Kompany not dropping him than anything else. There were plenty of occasions where the fans got behind him as well. I think there always has been a lot of revisionism about how all that went down. You'd think there were groups of fans outside his house with pitchforks the way some go on. All I will say on this matter is that I've a feeling we sold him at the best time and his best value.

He could go on to play for England, or he might get found out, only time will tell.

[Boss Hogg]

Did great for us last season but he was always replaceable and we have a good keeper now. Did great in League One too but jury is still out at Premier League level. Newcastle may have been the best bet from a game time point of view.

[Jakubclaret]

He got bit of clog, nothing more nothing less. It was more frustration of Kompany not dropping him than anything else. There were plenty of occasions where the fans got behind him as well. I think there always has been a lot of revisionism about how all that went down. You'd think there were groups of fans outside his house with pitchforks the way some go on. All I will say on this matter is that I've a feeling we sold him at the best time and his best value.

He could go on to play for England, or he might get found out, only time will tell.

I remember the sensitive souls trotting the lines out such as kompanys got to protect him take him out of the firing line as if kompany was supposed to morph himself to be a super protective father figurehead. The lad made mistakes for sure I think the hefty transfer fee at the time applied unnecessary pressure. Whatever happened then & what happened after it all turned out well in the end for him & for us.

[Lu-tze]

Nah....what we got was probably about right...if a bit fortuitous......Ian Moore however is a different story...I'd wager Steve Cotterill is still dining out on that...50k for Moore was a piece of buisness that made Dick Turpin look like Bo Peep.

As memory serves..
Wayne Thomas 1.5mil.. Kyle Lafferty 4mil.. Leon Cort 1.5mil…
Laughing all the way to the bank!

[Big Vinny K]

As memory serves..
Wayne Thomas 1.5mil.. Kyle Lafferty 4mil.. Leon Cort 1.5mil…
Laughing all the way to the bank!

Not on the Leon Cort one - we had our pants royally pulled down on that one by Stoke and Pulis. One of the worst players I have seen play for Burnley.

[Lu-tze]

Not on the Leon Cort one - we had our pants royally pulled down on that one by Stoke and Pulis. One of the worst players I have seen play for Burnley.

My bad, looked up transfer fees- could remember a CH going for a crazy fee and was looking at arrivals not departures! Duh!

[Spijed]

Not on the Leon Cort one - we had our pants royally pulled down on that one by Stoke and Pulis. One of the worst players I have seen play for Burnley.

Obviously you never watched us in the old 3rd & 4th division then.

[box_of_frogs]

Sign for a big club expect big competition

Spot on. If he didn’t envisage being out competed then he’s either badly advised or daft or arrogant (or a combo).

[box_of_frogs]

Reading this thread tells you how toxic a fan base we are.

JT is fine, frustrated but fine. His development will continue, both for Man City and England.

He will no #1 for both for many years to come.

Or convinced there’s anything toxic on here just because you disagree with some people. No one’s called him a see you next Tuesday or similar.