England vs Andorra

[ClaretOfMancunia]

Got just as much chance as every other time …

Regardless of the manager

Only one team can win it and it’s usually the team with the best squad

We always have a good squad but never the best

Surely the manager makes a huge difference to the performance of the squad though?

[Deathtrip]

Let's face it we are shite and we are never going to worry the likes of Spain and Italy

[ollieclarets8]

Surely the manager makes a huge difference to the performance of the squad though?

He received so much backlash but the best manager I think England have had since 1990 is Southgate.

[The Shire Claret]

Surely the manager makes a huge difference to the performance of the squad though?

Of course but I got fed up of England media over hyping then destroying our team 20 years ago when they usually finish where our squad quality is expected to finish

Southgate set us up and people moaned but it got us competitive against better teams and he nearly pulled it off

[Row x]

The National side should be managed by an English manager - not a foreigner, especially not a german

I get some people want an English manager, I dont get why a German is any different than any other foreign manager though.

[Casper2]

The National side should be managed by an English manager - not a foreigner, especially not a german

Racism alive and well on up the clarets

[mdd2]

I think you mean Nationalism

[ClaretOfMancunia]

He received so much backlash but the best manager I think England have had since 1990 is Southgate.

Agree with this. Turgid watch sometimes, but very effective.

[Deathtrip]

He received so much backlash but the best manager I think England have had since 1990 is Southgate.

the nearly man.

[yTib]

i just wish that horrible band would GO AWAY!

[Vegas Claret]

if you look how empty the ground is with 15-20 mins to go it says it all. I think the only player who has had a good game is Anderson

[The Shire Claret]

I’ve got no issue with where he’s from.

I just don’t find him or his football particularly interesting.

I agree that all national teams should be represented and managed by people from the respected countries

His nationality is irrelevant

[Funkydrummer]

A German can't play for us, but a German can manage us !!

[Funkydrummer]

Credit to Andorra for putting up a creditable performance and working very hard right to the very end. Must be hard work, and soul destroying chasing shadows and getting nowhere for 90 minutes.

Credit where it's due.

[yTib]

if a german won us the world cup then fawlty towers would be banned.

come on tommy!

[Goalposts]

7 shots on target with 82% possession in 90 minutes. Which ever way you cut it is poor against Andorra

[Funkydrummer]

Obviously I've missed something here, but when did we start with "Player out - Player in" on substitutions ?

[ollieclarets8]

7 shots on target with 82% possession in 90 minutes. Which ever way you cut it is poor against Andorra

But...

Had we won 6-0.
Had 20 shots on target.
Had 85% possession.

It would only have been Andorra.

[Ampth7]

Personally, I don’t care who manages England…….I’m more concerned about playing these utterly pointless games against absolute s***e like Andorra. I just can’t watch it tbh, it’s so bad!

[ISpeds00]

Racism alive and well on up the clarets

Always get 1 clown trying to play the race card
Far from racist wanting an English manager managing the English side

[ollieclarets8]

Always get 1 clown trying to play the race card
Far from racist wanting an English manager managing the English side

Patriotism vs Nationalism.

[Vegas Claret]

But...

Had we won 6-0.
Had 20 shots on target.
Had 85% possession.

It would only have been Andorra.

No, you are looking for patterns and bravery not a scoreline

[ollieclarets8]

No, you are looking for patterns and bravery not a scoreline

Probably best we agree to disagree until another England game. We have our own points and it's unlikely we're suddenly going to agree with eachother.

[Vegas Claret]

Probably best we agree to disagree until another England game. We have our own points and it's unlikely we're suddenly going to agree with eachother.

I'm not looking for agreement mate, always good to get a different view point.

[Woodleyclaret]

I am glad I didn't pay to watch.loads of individual talent but not a team Dixon slagging off Rashford is completely unacceptable though

[Vegas Claret]

Cullen starts for Ireland

[Tribesmen]

Cullen starts for Ireland

If Ireland win i pormise i will not complain

[summitclaret]

I am glad I didn't pay to watch.loads of individual talent but not a team Dixon slagging off Rashford is completely unacceptable though

Why? He looked like he wasn't interested and was pretty ineffective. Ditto Eze, who was even worse. Only Anderson and Madueke looked really up for it, until Rogers and Gibbs- White came on. I watched it because it mattered, but it was awful.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Not seen it, had better things to do, but have seen the lineup, stats and match report.

Instinct is Tuchel will fail. He doesn’t do what is ruthlessly needed. Why not stick Burn up front when they are packing their box with no interest in attacking? This is practice for when it matters. It reminded me of our Man Utd match where we had a free kick with the last kick of the game yet Dubravka was told not to go forward - I found that deeply worrying.

[bobinho]

Well that is a pretty insipid first half. Goes to show, what ever the level. A well drilled side that on paper should not even be competing with the opposition can make the supposed cream of english football look devoid of ideas , quality and skill

Remind you of anyone?

[Taffy on the wing]

Kier Starmer a ****#r ringing out at Villa park

They got that right!

[Procrastinate B]

‘Wild Rover’ belting out before the Ireland game.

[Stayingup]

imagine paying money to see england v andorra and then booing the andorran national anthem.

a real double whammy.

Just too many morons watch football unfortunately.

[Taffy on the wing]

Of course but I got fed up of England media over hyping then destroying our team 20 years ago when they usually finish where our squad quality is expected to finish

Southgate set us up and people moaned but it got us competitive against better teams and he nearly pulled it off

....or he suppressed the most talented squad we've ever had!

[Stayingup]

Stupid England fans singing GSTK.

Why are they stupid for singing the national anthem?

[Vegas Claret]

Still find it mental that Callum Styles (ex Claret Academy) gets in this Hungary side

[Im_not_Robbie_Blake]

Eze terrible

[boatshed bill]

The National side should be managed by an English manager - not a foreigner, especially not a german

I don't recall all this fuss over Sven.
But we didn't have right wing morons painting the flag of St George all over the place then either.

[louieollie]

Oh was there a game on! ..........

[The Shire Claret]

....or he suppressed the most talented squad we've ever had!

But Spain were just as if not more talented

That’s my main argument ….

Course we can beat Spain … but they can beat us too, just like 6-10 other top teams on their day

We deserve it no more than anyone else

[ollieclarets8]

But Spain were just as if not more talented

That’s my main argument ….

Course we can beat Spain … but they can beat us too, just like 6-10 other top teams on their day

We deserve it no more than anyone else

I agree. Which is why I think Southgate gets far too much **** than he deserves.

Gareth Southgate led England to a final and two semifinals.

That's a phenomenal achievement.

[LeadBelly]

The number of players who run around the ball to play it with their favoured foot is astounding, especially for internationals.

Always dismays me too that highly paid pros have such weakness in their "wrong" foot.

[ollieclarets8]

Always dismays me too that highly paid pros have such weakness in their "wrong" foot.

You sound like my dad

But I tend to agree - if you can't pass, shoot and cross with both feet there's something wrong.

[Ampth7]

I agree. Which is why I think Southgate gets far too much **** than he deserves.

Gareth Southgate led England to a final and two semifinals.

That's a phenomenal achievement.

I think it was two Euros finals if memory serves……

Either way, I think the last time I enjoyed watching England was probably when we stuffed ze Germans 5-1! Genuinely struggling to remember anything worthy of watching since then tbh…….

[Colburn_Claret]

It was crap meaningless rubbish. It was always going to be.
I don't like Tuchels squads, or teams, but the real problem is the players can't motivate themselves to break sweat against Andorra.
There should be preliminaries for these smaller nations. To clutter the calender with these non contests serves no one but fifa. We learnt nothing about England, nothing about what formation we should play, nothing about who should or shouldn't be in the final world cup squad. It's a waste of time, and most football fans won't even have bothered watching.

[ollieclarets8]

I think it was two Euros finals if memory serves……

Either way, I think the last time I enjoyed watching England was probably when we stuffed ze Germans 5-1! Genuinely struggling to remember anything worthy of watching since then tbh…….

It's a Saturday evening so forgive me for that one - but you backup my point even more.

[No Ney Never]

As long those in charge of appointing the England manager remain, we'll never win anything.

[warksclaret]

Went to see my local team Harborough play Halesowen which was a draw and Harborough undefeated and now top of Step 3 in the Central Premier Division.It was more enjoyable than watching England tonight

[bobinho]

I don't recall all this fuss over Sven.
But we didn't have right wing morons painting the flag of St George all over the place then either.

What fuss? A bit of a discussion on a footy message board?

Wake up to yourself. Anybody does anything even remotely passionate with the Union Jack/flag of St George and nutters can’t help but scream RIGHT WING!!!!
Maybe when Sven was manager, we didn’t have the same problems in society as we do now!

You’ve pulled me off topic and dragged me in to a stupid argument now with your nonsense….

Anyway, as far as Tuchel is concerned, no problem at all with him being the manager, but I CAN understand the argument some put forward that the players must be English so why not the manager? But it’s allowed, so the best man for the job gets the job until it changes.

My issue is the selections. There are some players who should be nowhere near this squad, but are.

[bobinho]

I agree. Which is why I think Southgate gets far too much **** than he deserves.

Gareth Southgate led England to a final and two semifinals.

That's a phenomenal achievement.

With the players at his disposal, and considering in one of the finals we were 1-0 up at home against a poor Italian side and STILL managed to lose it, it’s a phenomenal under achievement in my book.