5 Defeats...

[randomclaret2]

5 Defeats in our first 7 PL games...5 in our last 115 Championship games.

[fidelcastro]

Who knew there was such a gulf in quality between the two leagues?

[Lakeland Claret]

What did you really expect at start of season ? Apart from one we ve been in the games until the end unlike last time at this level. Now can we develop and take points / wins ?

[HurstGrangeClaret]

We always knew what a tough start it was going to be although today’s team performance was disappointing.
Let’s hope our new players are going to bed in very soon and we can turn our form/results around.

[Nonayforever]

5 defeats & thrown a cup game !

[The Shire Claret]

5 - Very Expected Defeats ….

No need to panic yet

[Goliath]

I'm finding this season especially dull. Last time round there was a bit of excitement about all the new players and thinking we were going to outplay teams.

This time it seems there's a bit of a resignation already.
Also, I'm convinced we are struggling for sharpness through lack of games. We play once every 7 or 8 days compared to teams like Villa that have got 2 games a week and can rotate the squad making sure everyone's getting lots of minutes.

It might work in our favour later in the season but at the moment we just lack any momentum. Now we've got another 2 week break before our next game.

It's pretty crap.

[Woodleyclaret]

Some positive signs from Loam,Les.Q .Nigel Axel and Tino all showed good touches and our points will come.

[Beagle]

Last time out first seven games:

0-3 L v City
1-3 L v Villa
2-5 L v Spurs
1-1 D v Forest
0-1 L v United
0-2 L v Newcastle
2-1 W v Luton

4 points 6F 15A

This season after seven games 4 points 7F 15A

Not really sure what point I’m making aside from the fact that we’re certainly consistent.

[boatshed bill]

Last time out first seven games:

0-3 L v City
1-3 L v Villa
2-5 L v Spurs
1-1 D v Forest
0-1 L v United
0-2 L v Newcastle
2-1 W v Luton

4 points 6F 15A

This season after seven games 4 points 7F 15A

Not really sure what point I’m making aside from the fact that we’re certainly consistent.

Yes, virtually identical. We can hardly compete at this level.
The only real difference is tactical; Parker is defensively inclined, Kompany tried to play attractive football. Same outcome probably.

[wilks_bfc]

Before the season started, did anybody really expect to be on more than 4 points at this stage?

[Dyched]

Take the rough with the smooth.

Anyway, we’re still ahead of Blackburn since the start of the 22/23 Championship season we’ve taken more points than them, still.

13 more points than them, despite playing 54 games less

[Spijed]

Before the season started, did anybody really expect to be on more than 4 points at this stage?

The way Sunderland competed against Forest and Villa then maybe we should have been on the front foot a bit more.

[RVclaret]

The way Sunderland competed against Forest and Villa then maybe we should have been on the front foot a bit more.

Sorry but did you watch the game yesterday? How much more front footed could we be? First half Walker, Hartman & Cullen were pressing relentlessly within Villa’s own third? Ironically the team got slagged off for their first goal, which came from us being on the front foot…?

[Silkyskills1]

Now can we develop and take points / wins ?

What does that mean? Develop into what?

[ClaretTony]

Sorry but did you watch the game yesterday? How much more front footed could we be? First half Walker, Hartman & Cullen were pressing relentlessly within Villa’s own third? Ironically the team got slagged off for their first goal, which came from us being on the front foot…?

Unfortunately there are posters who must be itching for a defeat so they can complain about something or other. I’ve learned to stay away for much of the time after we’ve lost.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Unfortunately there are posters who must be itching for a defeat so they can complain about something or other. I’ve learned to stay away for much of the time after we’ve lost.

It is like groundhog day. Each Premier League seasons they go into overdrive after having had to endure a successful season in the Championship where they had little to whinge about.

Those who don't like/want Parker will get louder, some of the players are moaned at each week (Laurent & Foster in particular) although the dumb comments after the Spurs game about Dubravka's age have gone silent now.

I honestly have no idea why some watch us. They could have watched 3 other games on their TV yesterday and maybe enjoyed one of them.

[Pickles]

Unfortunately there are posters who must be itching for a defeat so they can complain about something or other. I’ve learned to stay away for much of the time after we’ve lost.

There's definitely an element of that but when we're playing poorly and getting beat it's little wonder the conversation is about us playing poorly and getting beat.

[scamander]

Whilst I appreciate the 'free hit' motif there is the fact that we wil have to pick up points where we aren't expected to. Did I think we would get anything at home versus Liverpool? No.

Does it make it ok that we threw a point away due to pub football level error? Also no.

Villa were a good bellweather. They have got back on form (so let's not do the 'we are playing team X in a few weeks and they are on a bad run at the mo' thing - you play the team when you play them) but they had little time to prepare and those that had played midweek would have been a bit leggy.

But we lost. We need to think like a Prem team - it's incredibly difficult but we aren't playing Northwich Reserves every week. When we do have some advantage we really need to try and get something.

I didn't think we'd stay up this season because it's very difficult nowadays. But we have to nove away from the free hit exlectation because there aren't enough non-free hit games for us to get enough points from.

[Silkyskills1]

It is like groundhog day. Each Premier League seasons they go into overdrive after having had to endure a successful season in the Championship where they had little to whinge about.

Those who don't like/want Parker will get louder, some of the players are moaned at each week (Laurent & Foster in particular) although the dumb comments after the Spurs game about Dubravka's age have gone silent now.

I honestly have no idea why some watch us. They could have watched 3 other games on their TV yesterday and maybe enjoyed one of them.

Of course the points you've mentioned are likely to happen. What would you expect? Complaining seems.to have become a dirty word on here but I don't see what is wrong with passing a comment( complaining) if someone is not particularly happy with what they are seeing.

[Wile E Coyote]

Scott Parker is managing us on merit in this division, quite how fans that were beside themselves with glee last season , and singing his praises from the rooftops can now be deriding his tactics and suggesting "better " formations would sort us out is laughable. most on here realise how difficult it is to earn points a this level because of the size of our club. reading comments from pub players (at best), or those that have never kicked a football in anger in their lives suggesting ways Burnley can improve is beyond silly.

[Casper2]

It is like groundhog day. Each Premier League seasons they go into overdrive after having had to endure a successful season in the Championship where they had little to whinge about.

Those who don't like/want Parker will get louder, some of the players are moaned at each week (Laurent & Foster in particular) although the dumb comments after the Spurs game about Dubravka's age have gone silent now.

I honestly have no idea why some watch us. They could have watched 3 other games on their TV yesterday and maybe enjoyed one of them.

Still not as tedious as you moaning about fellow posters though.
Groundhog Day indeed.

[Goliath]

Scott Parker is managing us on merit in this division, quite how fans that were beside themselves with glee last season , and singing his praises from the rooftops can now be deriding his tactics and suggesting "better " formations would sort us out is laughable. most on here realise how difficult it is to earn points a this level because of the size of our club. reading comments from pub players (at best), or those that have never kicked a football in anger in their lives suggesting ways Burnley can improve is beyond silly.

You're right to a point but I think questioning such a huge tactical shift is pretty fair. We are playing basically a back 5 with 1 underlapping centre back, its a really unusual system which stinks of a manager overthinking it.

We had the same criticism of the drastic changes Kompany made, his was more in terms of personnel but Parkers is more tactical.

Watching us feels like we've lost psychologically against some of these bigger teams from minute 1. We are starting games on the back foot and never really look like we believe we can win. I think a lot of it is how we are setting up, it's basically accepting we are inferior before we've kicked a ball, it must be quite hard to have any confidence with that approach.

We have to go back to attacking teams. Play the 3 obvious central midfielders and have one of them covering Edwards defensive work down the right so he can 'cheat' a bit and stay high. If that doesn't work then we just have to accept we aren't good enough, there's no point inventing systems.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Still not as tedious as you moaning about fellow posters though.
Groundhog Day indeed.

Weird isn't it those who pollute the match threads while never at games are the first pairs of lips to start quivering when they feel criticised themselves.

Big enough to slate the players non stop but don't say anything about them.