Andre Gray to West Ham for £10m?

exclaret · Post by **exclaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:41 am

The Sun have reported that West Ham would go in for him, if they fail to get Defoe?

I can't see Sunderland letting Defoe go easily (given he's their only chance of staying up!). I'm not sure if Defoe would leave them halfway through the season also?

£10m? Gray has to be worth at least £15m and I wouldn't even let him go on that!

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Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:54 am

didn't Watford want 30 million for Deeney?

I wouldn't swap Gray for him

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:10 pm

Player who scored 4 in 2 prem games last week? For £10 mill, doubt it.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:17 pm

Bit of a loss considering we paid £36 million for him

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:18 pm

Player if his age and potential who is starting to score goals in the Prem. £10 million? Is it April 1st??

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:26 pm

They've missed the boat. They could have had Jutkiewicz for that!

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:26 pm

If he manages to get more than 10 goals this season, which I think he will, then I personally would not take anything less than 20m seriously

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:27 pm

£10million?! Shockingly low.

Who do they think they are bidding like that, us?

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:35 pm

Defoe handed a transfer request on the coach home after West Ham were relegated at Birmingham so he is just the sort to jump ship given the chance.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:49 pm

It really is silly season. £40m wouldn't be far off for the New Aguero

dushanbe · Post by **dushanbe** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:51 pm

I wouldn't even return the call at £10m, if its true its an insult.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:51 pm

Ric_C wrote:didn't Watford want 30 million for Deeney?

I wouldn't swap Gray for him

I would!

exclaret · Post by **exclaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:58 pm

What's the consesnus about Andre Gray himself? Is he happy at Burnley? Would he want to leave for a *bigger* club? Maybe heading towards London as that's where he's from, right? Or more that way anyway...

After his Twitter incident; given Burnley stuck by him I'd like to think he thought a lot of us

Claretto · Post by **Claretto** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:03 pm

I'd take £10m for Gray and offer Sunderland £10m for Defoe

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:03 pm

exclaret wrote:What's the consesnus about Andre Gray himself? Is he happy at Burnley? Would he want to leave for a *bigger* club? Maybe heading towards London as that's where he's from, right? Or more that way anyway...

After his Twitter incident; given Burnley stuck by him I'd like to think he thought a lot of us

I'd be surprised if he feels any loyalty to us whatsoever. If an offer comes in from a more established Premier League club then I think his head will be turned and he'll want to go. I may be totally wrong but I've just had that feeling ever since we signed Gray - mind you, loyalty is pretty rare among footballers in general nowadays.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:14 pm

HITC rehashing a newspaper's news I see. Reporting on reports. Worst website in the world.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:17 pm

IndigoLake wrote:I'd be surprised if he feels any loyalty to us whatsoever. If an offer comes in from a more established Premier League club then I think his head will be turned and he'll want to go. I may be totally wrong but I've just had that feeling ever since we signed Gray - mind you, loyalty is pretty rare among footballers in general nowadays.

Maybe so, but supporting a team with Tom, Keano, Ben Mee, Dean Marney and Big Sam in it gives us more faith in some player loyalty surely? Not saying they wouldn't go for a big offer but loyalty isn't dead quite yet. Not in Burnley anyway

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:18 pm

And 10m for Andre is a bigger joke than Rovers!

lucs86 · Post by **lucs86** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:31 pm

With prices as they are and a recent PL hatrick to his name £10m is cheeky. Maybe there's more to come and his touch will improve but I don't think he'll be a £20m forward, if we did let him go in the region of £15m I think we'd be able to find better. Definitely wouldn't do anything in January though.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:42 pm

IndigoLake wrote:I would!

Deeney has got 4 so far.

clitheroeclaret2 · Post by **clitheroeclaret2** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:45 pm

Claretto wrote:I'd take £10m for Gray and offer Sunderland £10m for Defoe

Am I really reading that?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:45 pm

In the summer he only has 12 months left on his contract.

He needs to get tied down now or sold in this or the next window.

Don't want him walking out the door for nothing

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:46 pm

Spijed wrote:Deeney has got 4 so far.

Doesn't change anything for me. Deeney scored goals for fun in the Championship for 3 or 4 seasons and obviously had a strong season last season (his first in the Premier League) with 13 goals in 38 appearances. He is older than Gray but I think he'd be an excellent player for us - so I'd be okay with swapping Gray for Deeney - not that that's on the cards. I'm sure some will be very happy that I'm not the manager - just my opinion

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:50 pm

Guich wrote:Maybe so, but supporting a team with Tom, Keano, Ben Mee, Dean Marney and Big Sam in it gives us more faith in some player loyalty surely? Not saying they wouldn't go for a big offer but loyalty isn't dead quite yet. Not in Burnley anyway

Perhaps so! Aside from Keane, I'm not sure how many of the others have actually been the subject of bids from other clubs. However you do get the sense that Heaton and Vokes (for example) particularly enjoying being at the club. They always speak well of the club and Heaton does a lot of in the community, for example. Hard to tell at the end of the day. We can only really speculate and see what happens!

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:52 pm

No way we'll sell any of our key players this month. We're in too good a position to risk throwing it away for money that we don't need.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:58 pm

The bid is no worse than Burnleys opening bid for some players. Having said that, still way under current values and feel pretty certain none of our top players will be leaving in this window.

exclaret · Post by **exclaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:04 pm

AND SO... It begins!

Sunderland reject a £6m bid from West Ham for Defoe.

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brunlea99 · Post by **brunlea99** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:05 pm

Firthy wrote:The bid is no worse than Burnleys opening bid for some players. Having said that, still way under current values and feel pretty certain none of our top players will be leaving in this window.

There is no bid.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:07 pm

Just imagine if we put a £6m bid in for Defoe, the knee jerkers on here would be doing involuntary flick flacks.

Claretto · Post by **Claretto** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:11 pm

clitheroeclaret2 wrote:Am I really reading that?

194 goals over his 518 game club career...of course. Would be much better than Gray in terms of helping us to stay up. Would have to rebuild in the summer though.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:11 pm

regardless of a bid or not, Brentford are asking 15 million + for Hogan, so Andre must be worth over 25 on todays stupid prices

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:20 pm

BennyD wrote:Just imagine if we put a £6m bid in for Defoe, the knee jerkers on here would be doing involuntary flick flacks.

Just imaging if we put a £6m bid in for Defoe and the knee jerkers started doing involuntary flick flacks. You really would have some real people to snipe at

clitheroeclaret2 · Post by **clitheroeclaret2** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:30 pm

Claretto wrote:194 goals over his 518 game club career...of course. Would be much better than Gray in terms of helping us to stay up. Would have to rebuild in the summer though.

We`ll be fine insofar as staying up, In Dyche we trust.
Thinking in career terms, Andre`s just starting in some ways, Defoes arguably coming to an end!

Jambo · Post by **Jambo** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:32 pm

West Ham were trying to buy the likes of Lacazette in the summer (and ended up with Zaza). Targets have shifted somewhat if they're looking at Defoe and Gray now.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:45 pm

Jambo wrote:West Ham were trying to buy the likes of Lacazette in the summer (and ended up with Zaza). Targets have shifted somewhat if they're looking at Defoe and Gray now.

Looks like they are trying to narrow the relegation places down to 2.
Sunderland refuse to sell= unhappy player=under performing=relegation
Sunderland sell = relegation.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:47 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Just imaging if we put a £6m bid in for Defoe and the knee jerkers started doing involuntary flick flacks. You really would have some real people to snipe at

Simply getting it in first for once. 'They' are out there, just waiting for our first 'derisory' (in their eyes) bid. This shows that all clubs are the same; they want the best players possible for the least money possible.

Jambo · Post by **Jambo** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:53 pm

I think if Sunderland lose Defoe they can start preparing for the Championship to be honest. Nobody else scores for them. But they've got to sell to buy so if he wants to go - and he probably will given his past and the fact Sunlun are diabolical - they're ******, basically.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:20 pm

I can imagine Defoe throwing in a transfer request to get a move back to his first club, hope he does

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:07 pm

Why would Sunderland sell Defoe for any amount let alone £6m? They got him for free (apart from £4m a year wage) and they lose mega bucks if thy go down.

Even dafter why would we pay someone £4m plus a year?

Even dafter still why would we sell Gray for £10m when someone might pay £11m for Lookman?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:16 pm

Didn't West Ham pay 20m for Ayew

COYC73 · Post by **COYC73** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:31 pm

I think West Ham would have to offer £25Million before it was even taken seriously.....!

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:43 pm

I wonder if West Ham are looking at the teams around them to either:

1) Tempt their goalscorer away and sign him
2) Create a bit of tension, at least.

I think West Ham are a very poor side.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:03 pm

exclaret wrote:Maybe heading towards London as that's where he's from, right? Or more that way

Andre is from the Black Country around Telford I think.
Edit - Wolverhampton.

I too would hope he is happy here and am sure the rumours wouldn't have been around if he hadn't scored in the last 2 games.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:15 pm

JohnMac wrote:Andre is from the Black Country around Telford I think.
Edit - Wolverhampton.

I too would hope he is happy here and am sure the rumours wouldn't have been around if he hadn't scored in the last 2 games.

He hasn't scored in the last 2 games

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:34 pm

If west ham want him an offer silly wages then gray will kick up a fuss to go he strikes me as that type of person.
£10 million would be a good deal but I'd try doubling it an see if they'll pay it

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:06 pm

I have mentally blocked out the away games

John Johnson 1605 · Post by **John Johnson 1605** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:17 pm

bumba wrote:If west ham want him an offer silly wages then gray will kick up a fuss to go he strikes me as that type of person.
£10 million would be a good deal but I'd try doubling it an see if they'll pay it

What makes you think Gray is "that type of person ?"

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:23 pm

Perhaps he has a release clause in his contract.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:28 pm

"If west ham want him an offer silly wages then gray will kick up a fuss to go he strikes me as that type of person. £10 million would be a good deal but I'd try doubling it an see if they'll pay it"
I hope that's a wind-up?
You have made a huge assumption about Gray's integrity + £10million would not be anything like a good deal for a guy who has just proved that he can be an effective top-league striker.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:09 pm

18 months ago Gray was worth between £6.5m and $9.5m, depending on whether we stop up this year. If now he's worth £10m, bearing in mind the market has continued increasing like crazy, then it must mean he's gone backwards in his play and is less of a player than he was then. 25 goals in the Championship, a Premier league hat trick, the 5th fastest player in the Prem? I don't think he's gone backwards.