Heaton and penalties

[IndigoLake]

Great keeper, no doubt. But what's his record for us in terms of penalty saves?

[ClaretTony]

Pretty good - saved At least three or four.

[tjgh25]

Seem to remember him saving one against Southampton a couple of seasons back from Tadic at Turf.

[Ooogeorgeorgeoghani]

Must admit when gray took ours cech made the goal look small, heaton made ours look huuge,something to work on perhaps?

[IndigoLake]

Okay. Genuinely had no idea and interested how he compares with previous keepers. Had a feeling his record wasn't great with pens.

[HendricksHair]

Saved two last prem season from Tadic and Barkley

[Bordeauxclaret]

Saved one this season as well.

[Vintage Claret]

Didn't he save one for Bristol City against us at the Turf or am I remembering it wrong?

[JohnMac]

Always looks worse when it's been chipped down the middle.

[boatshed bill]

Okay. Genuinely had no idea and interested how he compares with previous keepers. Had a feeling his record wasn't great with pens.

Premier league penalty takers are better, so hard to compare TH with our earlier goalkeepers.

[RocketLawnChair]

Derby away Forest at home Southampton home and West Ham away spring too mind. Two put the rebounds in though

[HendricksHair]

Sky sports article from October says Heaton had saved 9/27 penalties in his career, presume that's 10/30 now? Got the West Ham one, palace and today unless I'm missing any?

[IndigoLake]

Fair enough. Not using it as a stick to beat him with - love the man! But thought it was perhaps something to work on. He's seemingly got a better record at pens than I thought then.

[Clarettintedlense]

Saved one from Gerrard in a cup final too

[HendricksHair]

Article I referred to suggested that Heaton had 18th best record against penalties in Europe out of current keepers

[Diesel]

Must admit when gray took ours cech made the goal look small, heaton made ours look huuge,something to work on perhaps?

What a sack of dog shitttttt, that post is.

[Rileybobs]

Must admit when gray took ours cech made the goal look small, heaton made ours look huuge,something to work on perhaps?

Apparently Tom's been working tirelessly but has failed to gain any of the 4 inches of height that Cech has over him.

[bfcjg]

A hugh pair of gloves perhaps ?

[HendricksHair]

Platform shoe style boots?

[bfcjg]

So that's platforms larger gloves what about a puffa jacket ?

[Lord Beamish]

Apparently Tom's been working tirelessly but has failed to gain any of the 4 inches of height that Cech has over him.

Maybe get one of those silly hats, like Cech has. The one that makes him look like Wordy,out of 'Words and Pictures'.

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[MACCA]

I'd have loved it if Tom had stood still and made Sanchez look a kn0b.

Just standing still once a season would put doubt in all opposition players mind, and you will have won half the battle by making them pick a side.


Forcing a player to pick a side increases the keepers chance of saving or the players dragging wide.

Keepers and strikers do research on penalties. If a keeper stands still once or twice a season it really puts pressure on the penalty taker.

Also gives them a chance of diving to save a penalty not right in the corner, if they watch the ball.

What's done is done, but a free shot from 12 yards is the best chance to score, it needs the most practice and variations

[Dressinggown]

Spot on Macca.

Gray doesn't instil any confidence when he takes them.

Graham Alexander's penalty record was remarkable but he had an unconventional style. His run up was gun barrel straight, no discernible change in body position and struck the ball with the same part of the boot.

He just struck the ball at a different point.

[boatshed bill]

I'd have loved it if Tom had stood still and made Sanchez look a kn0b.

Just standing still once a season would put doubt in all opposition players mind, and you will have won half the battle by making them pick a side.


Forcing a player to pick a side increases the keepers chance of saving or the players dragging wide.

Keepers and strikers do research on penalties. If a keeper stands still once or twice a season it really puts pressure on the penalty taker.

Also gives them a chance of diving to save a penalty not right in the corner, if they watch the ball.

What's done is done, but a free shot from 12 yards is the best chance to score, it needs the most practice and variations

I can't honestly think of a single time when a 'keeper has stood still in the middle of his goal, although I do recall Kiraly trying to trick a penalty taker by standing by a post

[HendricksHair]

I'd have loved it if Tom had stood still and made Sanchez look a kn0b.

Just standing still once a season would put doubt in all opposition players mind, and you will have won half the battle by making them pick a side.


Forcing a player to pick a side increases the keepers chance of saving or the players dragging wide.

Keepers and strikers do research on penalties. If a keeper stands still once or twice a season it really puts pressure on the penalty taker.

Also gives them a chance of diving to save a penalty not right in the corner, if they watch the ball.

What's done is done, but a free shot from 12 yards is the best chance to score, it needs the most practice and variations

Sanchez has history with that sort of penalty in big situations, he did the same for chile in the copa America final.

[Rileybobs]

Yeah, Heaton should have just stayed in the middle of the goal and caught Sanchez's shot. Then we would have drawn the game.

[boatshed bill]

If he stands still and Sanchez rolls it into the corner he's hammered for not trying to save it.
It's not called a penalty for nothing!

[Bin Ont Turf]

Just standing still once a season would put doubt in all opposition players mind, and you will have won half the battle by making them pick a side.

You're definitely over thinking it.

Half the battle for a goalkeeper is instinct/moving early (or not)/luck. The other half of the battle is how crap the penalty taker takes the penalty.

For the penalty taker it usually comes down to how much pressure is on the penalty and how much they can handle it.

Alan Shearer used to stick them in either of the top corners, not many goalkeepers are stopping them.

Anyway, what do you mean 'standing still once a season', how many penalties are being awarded against a team in a season?

A penalty shoot out then yes, mind games from a goalkeeper come in to it more (so does the pressure for the penalty taker).

[Clarettintedlense]

The only way a keeper saved them in the middle is by sticking an arm or a leg out. And thats ironically when the balls hit harder and with more conviction. Because it gets to them quicker. A chip is the best way to go down the middle. As it looks like it is so easy and obvious to save but it isnt. By the time it reaches the goal the keepers on the deck and cant react. Whereas look at grays. He hit it harder down the middle. But it actually makes it easier for a keeper to save. Because it gets to him before hes hit the deck.

Obviously if heaton saved sanchezs it would have looked stupid. But theyre the safest sort of penalty.

Heaton will save more by diving as his record suggests. A bit of research may have shown that Sanchez may do what he did. But Heaton will save more by diving than not.

[No Ney Never]

Is there any rules regarding the size of gloves that a goalie can wear?
Supposing Heaton wore a great big pair of sponge gloves, Kenny Everett style, is there anything in the rule book to stop him?

[Fretters]

I can't honestly think of a single time when a 'keeper has stood still in the middle of his goal, although I do recall Kiraly trying to trick a penalty taker by standing by a post

I remember Kermagant (sp) missing in in a shoot out for Leicester in the play off semis. Dinked it down the middle but the keeper didn't dive. Crazy time to try it.

[Devils_Advocate]

I though Sanchez was shaping to roll it into Heatons right hand corner and as soon as Heaton went early that way he adjusted and clipped it down the middle. Had Heaton stood up think Sanchez would have just rolled it past him.

[RocketLawnChair]

How funny would it look if the keeper just stood still and the taker drilled it into one of the corners.

[Claretmatt4]

I'd love Heaton to have stood still, but not caught it.

Instead booted it away first time as hard as he could and do some kind of victory howl.

[Paul Waine]

Danny Murphy said that he'd heard advice that if penalty is in last minute of game best place to aim for is centre of the goal. Goalie will dive because he wants to be a hero - maybe Sanchez has already heard this advice.

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[KRBFC]

I'd have loved it if Tom had stood still and made Sanchez look a kn0b.

Just standing still once a season would put doubt in all opposition players mind, and you will have won half the battle by making them pick a side.


Forcing a player to pick a side increases the keepers chance of saving or the players dragging wide.

Keepers and strikers do research on penalties. If a keeper stands still once or twice a season it really puts pressure on the penalty taker.

Also gives them a chance of diving to save a penalty not right in the corner, if they watch the ball.

What's done is done, but a free shot from 12 yards is the best chance to score, it needs the most practice and variations

Sanchez's was a pressure penalty, hit the target and hope for the best. I said before he took it, straight down the middle. Obviously it's a guess but I bet most would have put a penalty down the middle under those circumstances.

[Falcon]

I would have done what I always did/do and just hit it as hard as I can and hope it's on target.

[minnieclaret]

Didn't he save one for Bristol City against us at the Turf or am I remembering it wrong?

Grezza had his only miss against Bristol City, ont'Turf, but it was David James in goal and it wasn't saved. James looking so huge made him shoot wide?

[RingoMcCartney]

Tom had another great game. A potential player of the year for me. So far.