Arsenal fans booing Defour!

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Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by WestMidsClaret » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:17 pm

Why?!? Did he do something wrong? Should he have said to the ref "don't worry about the 2 footed tackle, let's crack on"! I know it happens a lot but some fans at certain clubs are spoiled and haven't got much of a clue! They should be booing Xhaka for being stupid and there's a reason why them sort of tackles have been outlawed.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Clarettintedlense » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:18 pm

Personally dont think it was a red. The games gone soft. Maybe a foul but a red for fouls like that are ruining the game. Not that it was defours fault.
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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by CleggHall » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:33 pm

Reckless, 2 footed lunge which cleaned him out. Lucky to avoid serious injury, red card offence.
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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:36 pm

Arsenal are an odd club. Under Wenger they have got way more than their fair share of red cards. Many for dangerous challenges.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by thelifeofbrian » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:40 pm

Clarettintedlense wrote:Personally dont think it was a red. The games gone soft. Maybe a foul but a red for fouls like that are ruining the game. Not that it was defours fault.
LOL- yeah right..........
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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:42 pm

They booed every Burnley player, including the subs.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by lovebeingaclaret » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:47 pm

To try to balance the views on this thread I think KRBFC is wrong. I personally believe that they booed only 7 of our players and two of the subs.
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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Clarettintedlense » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:52 pm

thelifeofbrian wrote:LOL- yeah right..........
Ten years ago it wouldnt have even been a yellow. The games much poorer for that and a lack of players like keane and vieira. It was a tough challenge. But he didnt injure him and barely made contact.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Paulclaret » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:54 pm

Clarettintedlense wrote:Ten years ago it wouldnt have even been a yellow. The games much poorer for that and a lack of players like keane and vieira. It was a tough challenge. But he didnt injure him and barely made contact.
So you think the game is poorer for outlawing tackles where the player jumps in with two feet, out of control. I'm glad I never played football against you!
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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by SGr » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:57 pm

2 footed challenge off the ground.

It's the absolute definition of a red card!

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Clarettintedlense » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:00 pm

Paulclaret wrote:So you think the game is poorer for outlawing tackles where the player jumps in with two feet, out of control. I'm glad I never played football against you!
I think the game is poorer for not allowing tackles where a player takes the ball and not man. I think the game is poorer for not allowing tackles where player takes ball first then man.

It wasnt or rather it shouldnt be a red.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by WestMidsClaret » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:01 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Paulclaret » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:07 pm

So what you are saying is, if he catches Defour full on and breaks his leg, it's a red card, but if he plays the ball first and then carries on to break his leg, it's OK! Incredible.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by JohnMac » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:10 pm

Clarettintedlense wrote:Personally dont think it was a red. The games gone soft. Maybe a foul but a red for fouls like that are ruining the game. Not that it was defours fault.
40 years or so ago hacking someone from behind was acceptable and only warranted a tellling off at most.

The game has moved on and laws have changed in most cases for the better. With the lack of protection afforded by modern boots they have made it a red to avoid lots of injuries imo.

Bring back ankle length boots and Bamboo shin pads!

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by WestMidsClaret » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:17 pm

Nah ******** to shin pads the games gone soft! :lol:

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Clarettintedlense » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:17 pm

Paulclaret wrote:So what you are saying is, if he catches Defour full on and breaks his leg, it's a red card, but if he plays the ball first and then carries on to break his leg, it's OK! Incredible.
But he didny catch him full on. Cech didnt catch grays penalty full on and it went in.

If its a red then mee for the pen is for kicking someone in the head. Incidentally i dont think that was a penalty either.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by JarrowClaret » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:22 pm

For balance Burnley fans were booing kone when he was blatantly injured at turf. Football fans tend to have a one sided view.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by DCWat » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:51 pm

Out of control two footed lunge which could have caused serious injury = red card. One footed sliding tackle = yellow at worst. Silly error and the right outcome.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by HatfieldClaret » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:54 pm

DCWat wrote:Out of control two footed lunge which could have caused serious injury = red card. One footed sliding tackle = yellow at worst. Silly error and the right outcome.
Technically correct decision; harsh maybe, but correct.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by joey13 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:57 pm

KRBFC wrote:They booed every Burnley player, including the subs.
No they didn't, they booed Defour and Barton , you clearly didn't go .

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:58 pm

Their fans were lame.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Goodclaret » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:00 pm

Perhaps the Arse fans were booing Defour as he didn't roll over 24 times and they thought that was poor play from him?
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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Tall Paul » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:28 pm

HatfieldClaret wrote:Technically correct decision; harsh maybe, but correct.
I didn't think it was harsh. Xhaka must have **** for brains.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by ashtonlongsider » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:28 pm

I felt it was a harsh red. That said we should have taken advantage of our good fortune.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:32 pm

He did jump with two feet, but when he did so he was a way away from defour. By the time he reached defour, both feet were on the ground and it wasn't all that horrific or dangerous. But by the book, he has to go.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by claretburns » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:06 pm

Similar to this but I never understood why Stoke fans boo Ramsay for nearly having hit foot ripped off by Shawcross.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:23 pm

Might be wrong but sounded like there were boos when Marney was stretchered off.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:46 pm

That was because Marney had fouled their player and got himself a yellow card as well, I believe.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by WestMidsClaret » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:56 am

JarrowClaret wrote:For balance Burnley fans were booing kone when he was blatantly injured at turf. Football fans tend to have a one sided view.
Did we have someone sent from for a dangerous tackle in the incident?! If a player is feigning injury or the fans think he is then I understand the booing but if someone has been sent off for a stupid 2 footed tackle that is being outlawed in the game you shouldn't really be trying to defend it by booing the person on the end of it! Especially when most grounds nowadays show replays of incidents on their screens straight away!

I agree a lot of fans do have a one sided view.

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Re: Arsenal fans booing Defour!

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:07 am

Darnhill Claret wrote:That was because Marney had fouled their player and got himself a yellow card as well, I believe.

That makes sense. Be bit rich if they were booing a player stretchered off given any bad injuries they have received in the past almost required national mourning.

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