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Rate The Linesmen

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:45 pm

Can we have another thread for Linesmen to go alongside the ref one?

The result today thankfully meant we didn't need to talk about the ineptitude once more of a linesman, but the one in front of The Longside was atrocious. There was one incident where the ball was a full ball over the line, right underneath him and he didn't flag. Another where he flagged in our favour, the ref didn't blow so he flagged the other way. A third where he just looked at the ref to make the decision for him.

I actually don't think the game would be any worse without them some of them are that bad! Do they not have authority to make a decision(?) because they always seem to just go with what the ref 'saw' even if its in their area under their nose!

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by MDWat » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:53 pm

The one on the other side was hardly better. When Gray (I think) pressed Luiz and they both slid in, it was blatantly a Chelsea ball but he flagged our way after being berated by our fans.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:46 pm

MDWat wrote:The one on the other side was hardly better. When Gray (I think) pressed Luiz and they both slid in, it was blatantly a Chelsea ball but he flagged our way after being berated by our fans.
I saw that from the cfs. We all laughef as we couldnt believe it.
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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by dpinsussex » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:49 pm

Great result. Top referee.

Hang on we need a scape goat.

Pathetic.


Be grateful they were very minor incidents when u look at the whole of the game.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:51 pm

Its every week though. Luckily it didnt affect us today.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by mdd2 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:08 pm

MDWat wrote:The one on the other side was hardly better. When Gray (I think) pressed Luiz and they both slid in, it was blatantly a Chelsea ball but he flagged our way after being berated by our fans.
If this was on the BL side in the second half it was definitely our ball- as some would say 110%

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:21 pm

Why do linesmen only flag AFTER the ref has given a decision?

In the Arsenal game yesterday, the ref took a couple of seconds to decide to give the penalty, the linesman did nothing until the ref blew the whistle then began to wave his flag furiously as though he had seen the offence!!
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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:24 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:Why do linesmen only flag AFTER the ref has given a decision?

In the Arsenal game yesterday, the ref took a couple of seconds to decide to give the penalty, the linesman did nothing until the ref blew the whistle then began to wave his flag furiously as though he had seen the offence!!
This infuriates me. Its every week. Happened countless times today. Its like they only have the flag to let the fans know what the ref has decided!

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by lovebeingaclaret » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:29 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Can we have another thread for Linesmen to go alongside the ref one?

The result today thankfully meant we didn't need to talk about the ineptitude once more of a linesman, but the one in front of The Longside was atrocious. There was one incident where the ball was a full ball over the line, right underneath him and he didn't flag. Another where he flagged in our favour, the ref didn't blow so he flagged the other way. A third where he just looked at the ref to make the decision for him.

I actually don't think the game would be any worse without them some of them are that bad! Do they not have authority to make a decision(?) because they always seem to just go with what the ref 'saw' even if its in their area under their nose!

Incident one where you claim the ball was a full ball over the line. Do you sit directly along the line and do you realise that if 1mm of the ball is on the line it is still in the field of play?

The circumference of a ball is over 27 inches and has to go an awful long way to be fully over the line.

The second point you make was when the lineman flagged and the ref didn't blow. Blow for what?

Certainly the ref was giving his linesman hand signals low down and on a couple of occasions over ruled his linesman. Once the linesman was overruled he would naturally change his direction for the benefit of players and spectators.

The third incident confuses me. If the linesman didn't see who had put the ball out what do you want him to do? I would suggest giving a signal to the ref and keeping his flag down is a sensible option.
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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:33 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote:Incident one where you claim the ball was a full ball over the line. Do you sit directly along the line More or less and do you realise that if 1mm of the ball is on the line it is still in the field of play? Yes

The circumference of a ball is over 27 inches and has to go an awful long way to be fully over the line. I know

The second point you make was when the lineman flagged and the ref didn't blow. Blow for what? For the offence the linesman was flagging for

Certainly the ref was giving his linesman hand signals low down and on a couple of occasions over ruled his linesman. Once the linesman was overruled he would naturally change his direction for the benefit of players and spectators. Not sure how that benefits the spectators given that he had flagged for us then just changed his mind

The third incident confuses me. If the linesman didn't see who had put the ball out what do you want him to do? I would suggest giving a signal to the ref and keeping his flag down is a sensible option. It was his decision to make it was right next to him and the refs view was blocked

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by MDWat » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:35 pm

mdd2 wrote:If this was on the BL side in the second half it was definitely our ball- as some would say 110%
Aye, that one. Was it? Looked clear as day their ball to me!
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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:40 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote:Incident one where you claim the ball was a full ball over the line. Do you sit directly along the line and do you realise that if 1mm of the ball is on the line it is still in the field of play?

The circumference of a ball is over 27 inches and has to go an awful long way to be fully over the line.

The second point you make was when the lineman flagged and the ref didn't blow. Blow for what?

Certainly the ref was giving his linesman hand signals low down and on a couple of occasions over ruled his linesman. Once the linesman was overruled he would naturally change his direction for the benefit of players and spectators.

The third incident confuses me. If the linesman didn't see who had put the ball out what do you want him to do? I would suggest giving a signal to the ref and keeping his flag down is a sensible option.
The circumference of a football doesn't have to cross the line, that doesn't make sense. The diameter of a football is approx. 9 inches, all 9 of which have to be over the line for the ball to be out of play.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by lovebeingaclaret » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:44 pm

Your reply and come to think of it your original post are so naive that I refuse to try and educate you any further.

What is amazing though is how you laughed when the lineman gave Burnley a throw in when you were in the CFS and the incident was in front of the far side of the BLS.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:00 am

lovebeingaclaret wrote:Your reply and come to think of it your original post are so naive that I refuse to try and educate you any further.

What is amazing though is how you laughed when the lineman gave Burnley a throw in when you were in the CFS and the incident was in front of the far side of the BLS.
I laughed because Gray came right through the back of Luiz. Or appeared to. Who shepherded it out. Or appeared to. Which was amusing as for once we got a decision from a linesman that we shouldn't. And Luiz got booked. Which was also amusing.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:01 am

MDWat wrote:Aye, that one. Was it? Looked clear as day their ball to me!
To me also. From my vantage point :D :?

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by JohnMac » Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:20 am

One annoying point is the inability to control players stealing extra yards or in our case in the 2nd half, taking yards off us.
There was a foul just short of the centre spot and when Tom came up to take the kick the 'Lino' moved him back to 5 yards behind the centre circle!

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:43 am

Sounds like a thread for Tom Benderson...

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by Mattster » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:32 am

The linesman on the Longside was terrible to be fair. There was an offside he didn't give when the Chelsea player was about 3 or 4 yards off, he was about 10 yards behind play at that point for no obvious reason, luckily it didn't go anywhere. Then there was also the throw in he gave our way in the second half which a Chelsea player threw in quickly, so he changed the flag to his other hand and flagged it to them which was just bizarre.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:38 am

Mattster wrote:The linesman on the Longside was terrible to be fair. There was an offside he didn't give when the Chelsea player was about 3 or 4 yards off, he was about 10 yards behind play at that point for no obvious reason, luckily it didn't go anywhere. Then there was also the throw in he gave our way in the second half which a Chelsea player threw in quickly, so he changed the flag to his other hand and flagged it to them which was just bizarre.
Yep both of them too.

Im not sure what they offer.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:29 pm

Two more **** linesman. Especially on our side. How he didnt give boyds corner.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:09 pm

So one bad decision in your opinion make two **** Assistant Referees. Interesting.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by MACCA » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:11 pm

Thought they both had excellent games today, almost every call was the correct one.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:10 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:So one bad decision in your opinion make two **** Assistant Referees. Interesting.
But thats not what I said.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by quoonbeatz » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:12 pm

The one at our end was appalling.
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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:47 pm

I don't think he got anything right!

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by Juan Tanamera » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:57 pm

The one on our side couldn't gove any decisions because he couldn't keep up with play.

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by Juan Tanamera » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:59 pm

'Give'

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Re: Rate The Linesmen

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:56 pm

Yep, and it was the exaggerated way he insisted he was right which made it worse!

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