Paul Nuttall - what a liar!

[Holmeclaret]

I don't believe I've ever voted UKIP (although did vote for their most obvious policy last year) so wouldn't describe me as a "UKIP supporter".

There was also a time in political debate when there was a bit of perspective and actions (or inaction) which may have contributed to military action which resulted in the loss of 2,000 lives wouldn't have been thought a comparable action to calling "people I knew", "close personal friends".

I wasn't talking about you personally, Tom. I was saying that UKIP supporters(and supporters of other parties) should insist on the highest standards from those that represent them.
If you are defending Nuttall by comparing his lies with Tony Blair's lies on Iraq you could nullify any lie made by anybody at any time by dredging all that up.
Surely, from Blair's example, you can see how dangerous it could be to allow a proven liar into Parliament.

[Rowls]

This guy's such a lying fantasist.

.... so imagine how bad it will be for the Labour Party movement if the electorate choose him over the man picked from their North Islington base?

[Bordeauxclaret]

Can we get Zach Goldsmith to run for this seat as well?

[evensteadiereddie]

Abuse as usual from you. No change there...

That's not abuse, Tom. But I'm glad that you agree with my point re your desperate need to defend scrotes such as these.

[whereeaglesfly]

The man seems to have repeatedly lied.Defending him seems such a puerile thing to do. If the good people of Stoke vote for him it shows what a sad state English politics is in.

[Bacchus]

Can anybody conclusively prove that Nuttall intentionally misled people on this? Probably not. Does it seem likely given his track record of being caught with his pants on fire? Pretty much nailed on, I'd say. All politicians are economical with the truth at times but few are so regularly caught telling out and out porkies like Nuttall has been, and to pick a subject like Hillsborough is as insensitive as it is imbecilic.

I'd hope that he gets drubbed in Stoke and that UKIP are further discredited and left looking for yet another new leader. All logic suggests that that's what would happen, but in these crazy times who knows?

[claretspice]

There's some absolutely hysterical double standards on here. If people agree with UKIP policies, then fair dos, that's their right.

But what this episode does - like the claim to be a pro footballer, like the claim to have a PhD, like registering himself at an address in Stoke - is show that Nuttall is economical with the truth. The idea that his PR office are to blame for all of these "mistakes" is utter tosh - he's responsible for them, he's either made the claim directly or directed someone to make it up. Its absolutely inconceivable that all of these exaggerations/lies are an unfortunate misunderstanding within his PR team.

Now that may or may not mark him out from most politicians - although as it happens, I suspect that most high profile politicans are aware of the scrutiny they get and avoid making claims about their CV they can't really substantiate. But that isn't really the point. Nuttall and UKIP spend a hell of a lot of time claiming to be different, to be anything but career politicians, or part of the establishment.

And what this does is demonstrate that actually, Nuttall behaves exactly like we expect our career politicians to, and probably worse then most of those other career politicans actually do in practice. Screaming about the publicity this is getting doesn't wash. Nuttall is being strung up by his own petard, and hopefully he'll come a cropper for it in the by-election.

The man is a nasty, conniving piece of work with a loose association with the truth.

[Bacchus]

I suspect that most high profile politicans are aware of the scrutiny they get and avoid making claims about their CV they can't really substantiate.

If only that were true. 6 months ago we had one running for PM off the back of a highly embellished CV.

[claretspice]

That's true. I said most! Fact is the majority of politicians of all persuasions are good people doing something they believe in and who play by the rules though. Nuttall has - like Farage before him - made a career out of implying they're all self-interested liars, when in fact the cap fits rather well for themselves.

[ClaretMoffitt]

UKIP made a massive mistake in making this guy the head of their party. I thought it at the time and I've only become more inclined to think it as time has passed. They thought just because he was northern, wore a flat cap and had a scouse accent he would be able to capitalize on the disaffected Labour vote but he is an obvious idiot, and a liar and as others have described, a "chancer"

I wanted Kassam. Definitely not to everyones taste and probably a touch too right wing for the general public, hence why not getting the position, but at least he isn't a fake, a lair and is in touch with the current social political climate. Bit of a troll though and has too much fun p!ssing people off on social media to get widespread appeal. Oh well. Hopefully this guy won't last long and we can see what else they come up with. If its Suzanne Evans I'll literally give up on them forever.

[Lancasterclaret]

The only leader that gives UKIP a chance of holding on to its 10% vote is Farage.

Problem is that though he'll hold up the UKIP vote, the other 90% of the country think he's a c**t

[ClaretMoffitt]

The only leader that gives UKIP a chance of holding on to its 10% vote is Farage.

Problem is that though he'll hold up the UKIP vote, the other 90% of the country think he's a c**t

I'd bet my life that Farage has more national appeal in this country than Corbyn.

[Lancasterclaret]

I wouldn't disagree!

But neither have any appeal out of their comfort zone.

[Claretmatt4]

It must be so easy to be an MP nowadays.

1. Don't be a massive lying twunt.

Why are there so many that fail to get over this very surmountable hurdle?

[Bordeauxclaret]

Because they are desperate to prove they are like their voters even if they have nothing in common.

See this prat.
Cameron supporting Villa then forgetting and claiming West Ham.
Goldsmith pretending he likes Bollywood films.

Pathetic really.

[ClaretMoffitt]

Because they are desperate to prove they are like their voters even if they have nothing in common.

See this prat.
Cameron supporting Villa then forgetting and claiming West Ham.
Goldsmith pretending he likes Bollywood films.

Pathetic really.

As cringe as both of those were, I'd say this is worse.

To try and get the scouse vote by lying about losing friends in the Hillsborough disaster and posing as championing it on their behalf is pretty damn low.

[Imploding Turtle]

What happened to all Tom Benderson's posts? I can only see them in quotes.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I hope he's not gone. I for one enjoyed laughing at him.