No, I just think that this could also be included in considering the transfer budgetminnieclaret wrote:wrong thread, Jedi?

No, I just think that this could also be included in considering the transfer budgetminnieclaret wrote:wrong thread, Jedi?
All good points apart from the mythical 20 goals a season striker. Most of the top 6 clubs would like a 20 goal a season striker but they are as rare as Hens teeth and cost a lot of money.minnieclaret wrote:Spine of any side is the key to success.
Improved contracts for SD and Tom.
Do everything possible to keep Michael Keane.
A top ball winning midfielder, style of Kante.
A 20 goal a season striker.
Shouldn't cost anywhere near the amounts the OP mentions and would advance us.
Problem with Newcastle is Mike Ashley .. will Dyche fancy a zero hours contract?cricketfieldclarets wrote:The big threat for me is if Benitez Leaves Newcastle and there have been rumblings.
Would you want to work for Ashley? I think SD has more sense than to do that.cricketfieldclarets wrote:The big threat for me is if Benitez Leaves Newcastle and there have been rumblings.
I'm honestly not bothered in the slightest about an expanded Corporate area. An extra 2-3,000 seats wouldn't go amiss, but no more or we'd have a half empty ground if relegated. Put £10m Side in each of the next 3 seasons and then I'm sure any new developments on the ground would be viable.Blackrod wrote:I think we should think bigger and 2-3k extra capacity wouldn't go amiss. We don't need much bigger than that though. Corporate area could be expanded too.
We are currently selling 97% of our official home area capacity on average, and 95% of the ground. I'd suggest that if that trend continues next season, and we look comfortable, then it's time to look at respectable expansion plans. For the really big games we would sell 30,000 given the seats and larger away following, and more home seats would allow us to do offers to get the next generation involved with school freebies etc. Longer term thinking. I wouldn't suggest more than 25,000 no matter what the designs thoug, as it would be a bit foolish I think.claretspice wrote:2-3 k extra takes us up to around 25k. As and when we're selling out 70% of home fixtures, we should consider it. For now, we're not. I'm not even sure we sold out Chelsea on Saturday.
I think it's by design so as not to overcommit ourselves. 3 year deals even this season mean they get a deal this year (Prem money), and then two further years with parachute cash if relegated.Spijed wrote:Don't we always have the problem with 3 yr deals for our players? The Gray situation seems to be no different. They won't commit to 4-5 year stints because they feel they can get a move to a better club.
I don't think Ashley is the problem. And he backs his managers, financially and contract wise. Certainly longer than the fans up there do! Ashley is a successful businessman, its a huge club and hugely underachieving. Any Burnley fans who think given the opportunity if in the same league Dyche wouldnt go there is looking at it through claret tinted glasses. Even if he won the league cup there he would be a legend!minnieclaret wrote:Would you want to work for Ashley? I think SD has more sense than to do that.
minnieclaret wrote:Spine of any side is the key to success.
Improved contracts for SD and Tom.
Do everything possible to keep Michael Keane.
A top ball winning midfielder, style of Kante.
A 20 goal a season striker.
Shouldn't cost anywhere near the amounts the OP mentions and would advance us.
Any Burnley fan thinking that Dyche would go to Newcastle is looking at it through Robertson's jam jar bottoms.cricketfieldclarets wrote:I don't think Ashley is the problem. And he backs his managers, financially and contract wise. Certainly longer than the fans up there do! Ashley is a successful businessman, its a huge club and hugely underachieving. Any Burnley fans who think given the opportunity if in the same league Dyche wouldnt go there is looking at it through claret tinted glasses. Even if he won the league cup there he would be a legend!
Calm yourself down, he wouldn't leave for Newcastle, he's far too intelligent for that.cricketfieldclarets wrote:If we were in the premier league and newcastle were and they approached him to be manager he would almost certainly take the job.
Eddie Howe left us for Bournemouth in league one!
Its only an extra 30 miles and no M6!Sidney1st wrote:Doubt he'd move his family that far and I wonder if he'd like the commute?
Newcastle are a bigger club and bigger potential than us.Bin Ont Turf wrote:Calm yourself down, he wouldn't leave for Newcastle, he's far too intelligent for that.
Eddie Howe wasn't up to it but may manage Southampton one day, that's about it.
And end up like 'Phil Brown' or 'Aidy Boothroyd'.cricketfieldclarets wrote: After Newcastle he would almost certainly be guaranteed a job at a club of our size after that even if he failed.
When did Boothroyd or Brown take up a job at a Newcastle or bigger club than Hull or Watford?Bin Ont Turf wrote:And end up like 'Phil Brown' or 'Aidy Boothroyd'.
Dyche has been here over four years and you still don't get him?
cricketfieldclarets wrote:When did Boothroyd or Brown take up a job at a Newcastle or bigger club than Hull or Watford?
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Because both are logical reasons why he would leave. In the case of Brown and Boothroyd they didnt move when their stock was high. In the case of Newcastle they are a bigger club than us paying more money with more potential.
See above.Bin Ont Turf wrote:Really?
Bellend owner/chairman, fans who are more contrary than quite contrary Mary and no possible framework.
He'd be sacked within a season with that shower.
Sidney1st wrote:So looking at the list of managers, the players they've had and they're still in the championship...
With a massive wage bill.
They need intensive surgery on that squad to make it a half decent PL squad.
Even in January Benitez wanted to sign more players, but he should be walking the league really.
It requires a long term fix up there
You're not f''kin right in the head Cricketfield,cricketfieldclarets wrote:See above.
Every manager they have had under Ashley was in a better position / job after Newcastle than they were before they took it.
Allardyce Pre Newcastle Bolton, post Newcastle Palace (via Blackburn, West Ham, Sunderland and England.) In a better position.
Hughton Pre Newcastle wasnt a manager. Post Newcastle a highly rated manager with three solid clubs. In a better position.
McClaren Pre Newcastle Derby, post Newcastle Derby. In the same position.
Keegan Pre Newcastle unemployed, post Newcastle unemployed. In the same position.
Pardew Pre Newcastle Southampton (Championship), post Newcastle Crystal Palace (Premier Leage). Better position.
What about that post in the words of Rafa Benitez is not a FACTBin Ont Turf wrote:You're not f''kin right in the head Cricketfield,
I know that you're on a wind up.
Properly tuned in tonight aren't you?cricketfieldclarets wrote:Our most important transfer next season is giving Dyche a proper contract, not this one year rolling thing he has. Give hm a 4+ year deal on big money. He has earnt it.
I was of the understanding Dyche was on a rolling contract because that was what HE wanted - not what the board wanted - also that rolling contract has been improved at least twice during his tenure and he has benefitted from 2 large promotion bonuses (well earned) and will no doubt have a huge bonus for keeping us up this timecricketfieldclarets wrote:
Our most important transfer next season is giving Dyche a proper contract, not this one year rolling thing he has. Give hm a 4+ year deal on big money. He has earnt it.
Any increase to the ground would -from a business point of view- be focused on increasing commercial matchday revenue. The most sensible option for this would be corporate boxes at the back of the Bob Lord and a new roof to accommodate them.claretandy wrote:No one is saying 25k plus but 2 to 3k extra on the bob lord with a new roof and premium seating would be ok, most of the decent seat are already gone.
I get that. We need to entice him into signing a longer deal. Perhaps with a certain release clause in (champions league ckub or england). contracts arent worth the paper theyre wrote on these days so he could leave anyway. If hes in demand and he wants to go it would happen. But a longer contract gives us both security and reassurance.Chester Perry wrote:I was of the understanding Dyche was on a rolling contract because that was what HE wanted - not what the board wanted - also that rolling contract has been improved at least twice during his tenure and he has benefitted from 2 large promotion bonuses (well earned) and will no doubt have a huge bonus for keeping us up this time
He may well deserve a further upgrade but it is unlikely he would want a long fixed term contract,
Question - do you think we should give him the type of contract he wants or risk him walking away because we insist he signs a fixed term deal?
The post does say quite early "should we stay up". It's a hypothetical topic to stimulate debate and establish opinions. I'd say if you are going to disagree with something at least read what you're disagreeing with.charlyt wrote:Hang on a bit.
Lets get the points and then return to this daft post....!
If he has a mare next season it's cheaper to sack him on a rolling contract then it would be on a longer term contract.KRBFC wrote:What are the positives with this rolling contract for Dyche as opposed to a standard X year contract? Is his contract reviewed on a yearly basis? so he's given a yearly bonus and a yearly rise? (well earnt)
But how does that part (I made bold) benefit him? the rolling contract was Dyches choice surely to benefit himself not allow us to sack him for peanuts. The 2nd part makes sense as to why it benefits him a little but it kinda shows a lack of dedication to a long term project. I can't doubt his long term dedication, just from looking into it a bit deeper, a manager demanding a rolling contract seems a little strange. I must have missed out some of the major benefits, possibly something to do with bonuses/wage structure.Sidney1st wrote:If he has a mare next season it's cheaper to sack him on a rolling contract then it would be on a longer term contract.
Managers can walk away with millions if they're on longer contracts, obviously dependant on their wages.
The downside is it's easier/cheaper for clubs to lure away a manager who's on a rolling contract then it is to get one on a longer contract.
Note the other part where I said it's easier for managers to be lured away.KRBFC wrote:But how does that part (I made bold) benefit him? the rolling contract was Dyches choice surely to benefit himself not allow us to sack him for peanuts. The 2nd part makes sense as to why it benefits him a little but it kinda shows a lack of dedication to a long term project. I can't doubt his long term dedication, just from looking into it a bit deeper, a manager demanding a rolling contract seems a little strange. I must have missed out some of the major benefits, possibly something to do with bonuses/wage structure.
Effectively a 1 year rolling means Dyche starts every day on a new 1 year fixed term contract - most people who consider themselves on a permanent contract at work have between a week and 90 days entitlement to earnings should they lose they job for whatever reason - Dyche has a yearKRBFC wrote:What are the positives with this rolling contract for Dyche as opposed to a standard X year contract? Is his contract reviewed on a yearly basis? so he's given a yearly bonus and a yearly rise? (well earnt)
We don't need a direct replacement as James Tarkowski looks more than good enough.LoveCurryPies wrote:You can't expect Michael Keane to stay. This is his career and of course he wants to play for a top 6 club. He has served the Club well. However, I think we will have the funds to bring a good replacement in.