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Re: Wayne Shaw

Post by JohnMcGreal » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:29 am

Looking at him, I'm amazed he was as high as 8/1.

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Re: Wayne Shaw

Post by aggi » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:47 am

It's a strange one. If he had opted not to eat the pie that would also influence the bet. It's a binary choice, his actions were going to decide the outcome of the bet either way.
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Re: Wayne Shaw

Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:57 am

Correct,
Once he know the company was offering the bet, he was guilty no matter what he did.
The rules are if you influence a bet during the duration of a match.
What ever he did he influenced the bet, as its only a win/lose bet.
Feel really sorry for the guy.

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Re: Wayne Shaw

Post by Siddo » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:06 pm

Sausage wrote:If anyone on here knows about employment law, can they please have a stab at explaining the difference between being sacked and being 'asked to resign'?
Asking an employee to resign is fraught with danger, and is almost asking the employee to go to an employment tribunal claiming constructive dismissal.
There's an immediate breakdown in trust and confidence, and is outside of the contract of employment.
Very shaky ground, the employee should be dismissed using the disciplinary procedure, and given the right to appeal. No problem at all then.

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Re: Wayne Shaw

Post by Acting Claret » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:50 pm

He's only culpable if he did the action but also had control if would be televised. I'm presuming he had no control over that. If it's a set up then more than him should fall on their swords. Or better still, we all just laugh it off.

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Re: Wayne Shaw

Post by Bacchus » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:55 pm

Aside from all else, what an unbelievably crass PR stunt by the Sun. Running a book on whether a fat bloke will eat a pie which then results in the chap losing his job must have left someone feeling incredibly proud of themselves.

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Re: Wayne Shaw

Post by dsr » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:23 pm

The suggestion is that Shaw resigned to take the heat off everyone else - so maybe some of the Sutton players took the bet, which would definitely be a breach of FA rules (albeit in a stupidly technical sense, because the incident took place at a match).

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Re: Wayne Shaw

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:29 pm

He'll be back at Sutton before long. Just as he was after his last controversy.

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Re: Wayne Shaw

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:33 pm

The problem with this is the grey area. Obviously this bet couldn't have any effect on the outcome of the game. However you could say the same for many bets that could be taken in relation to a game. As this will set a precedent the safe thing is to put a blanket ban on any betting activity relating to the sport.

The chap can count himself slightly unfortunate but he was stupid.

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Re: Wayne Shaw

Post by duncandisorderly » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:36 pm

He should have bitten into the pie, chewed it a bit, then spat it out. That way, technically, he has neither eaten it nor not eaten it. Or both. Schroedingers Pie.
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