Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

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Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:10 am

find it strange - even given remaining length of his contract - in a post Stones world or are we now pricing by toe

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:28 am

For anything under £30m we would be better keeping him!
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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m

Post by FCBurnley » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:32 am

He is better than Stones. End of
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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:37 am

FCBurnley wrote:He is better than Stones. End of
I agree - as do many in the business - or they at least think he is on a par - so why the valuation when poor defence is costing teams the title (yes I mean City and to a lesser extent Liverpool who aren't quite at that level)

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:45 am

Why does anyone take any notice of transfer gossip, even if it does say £20 million 'PLUS' and not £20 million?

The Stones transfer will have absolutely no bearing on Keane's possible transfer.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:56 am

BOT but why not £30m+ - I personally don't think the Stones valuation will have a significant impact either - don't expect even £40m but still as CFC says less than £30m seems too low in current market where teams are desperate for a cool head with defensive capabilities, ball playing skills and pace
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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:59 am

At 20m I would let him see his contract out. Doesnt seem the sort to throw his toys out if he doesnt get his way. After all when Leicester came in he just cracked on with his job.

Then offer him a bumper rise, or see his existing deal out on current terms. Either way if we stay up again (presuming we do this time) it will far outweight £20m.

He was class again today.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:07 am

Chester Perry wrote: don't expect even £40m but still as CFC says less than £30m seems too low in current market where teams are desperate for a cool head with defensive capabilities, ball playing skills and pace
There isn't a market for Michael Keane though, current or otherwise.

We won't want to sell him, so it will come down to a whole host of things between us and the club(s) who want to get him.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:09 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:There isn't a market for Michael Keane though, current or otherwise.

We won't want to sell him, so it will come down to a whole host of things between us and the club(s) who want to get him.
So there is a market then. :lol:

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:25 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:So there is a market then. :lol:
Not a 'current' market though jilted lover, because that's what we were referring to.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:52 am

If he'd gone to Leicester Ranieri would still be in a job
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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Garnerssoap » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:50 am

City Chelsea and united all interested. It's sad to say but we should be getting in bed with his agent now, cutting him in on our end of the deal and having a good old fashion high stakes auction in the summer
Otherwise it'll be fixed at 25 mill and the only auction will be on his wages

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:53 am

For me, the one hope is that, if we stay up, Keane will sign another contract
I can fully understand him not wanting to commit to us earlier this season when we were one of the favourites to go down
One way or another a decision has to be made fairly quickly after the season finishes and if that means he goes, then it will be with a big thanks from all of the fans
There is no way the Directors will run down his contract - the potential transfer money is still important to us and, given the way MK has conducted himself, it would be wrong of the club to stand in the way of his future progression

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by No Ney Never » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:56 am

Stones was never worth 49m, what we need is a club willing to over pay as city did.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Shore claret » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:37 am

City are like the rich spoilt kid at school, will deliberately buy the most expensive thing in the shop just because they can.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by cutsy123 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:50 am

Sign a new extention then let em big mid season next time

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by South West Claret. » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:52 am

Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at anything? Probably because it fills the gossip columns with something.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Top Claret » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:48 am

Lets hope if their is a bidding war it is between City and United, who knows we just might get in the £ 40 mill region for him

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by minnieclaret » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:35 am

Today's gossip columns are reporting Everton as confident of getting him.
Well they do have the Stones money to burn.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by taio » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:40 am

I'd guess £20m-£25m would be the fee.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by KefkaClaret » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:00 am

cutsy123 wrote:Sign a new extention then let em big mid season next time

Implying Keane would want to stay another year. I'm sure he's fine staying this season but I think he has loftier ambitions and rightfully so.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:09 am

The snippet in the sun hinted as if he was to replace Jagielka on the bench. Now we all know he'll need to fight for his place, but the last thing he needs is to warm the bench again. He could have stayed at Man U to do that. He is getting all the exposure he wants at Burnley, is more than likely going to stay in Southgates England squad, so unless there is a guarantee that he will be a first team regular we may have a chance to hold on.
Slim I know, the chance for European football et al. We do need to start paying our players competitive premiership wages, unless we want to have a fight to hold onto any of our stars in the future.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by 1914tyrone » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:11 am

Depends how you see the +
20M + James McCarthy would be ok! Joeys replacement sorted!

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:41 am

're loftier ambitions what's wrong with us giving us a pay rise and push on for a Europa league spot.Burnley need to aim higher .
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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by The Enclosure » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:49 am

Why cant Burnley offer him what Everton do? He has a much better chance of a long England career if he is playing regularly with Burnley.
If he does want to leave then we should stick out for at least what they got for Stones because in my opinion he is a better player.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by taio » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:55 am

The Enclosure wrote:Why cant Burnley offer him what Everton do? He has a much better chance of a long England career if he is playing regularly with Burnley.
If he does want to leave then we should stick out for at least what they got for Stones because in my opinion he is a better player.
Because it'd be the overall package that Everton can offer.

If he was to sign for them he'd be playing regularly, especially if he signs for the sort of money you're suggesting, and have an even better chance of playing for England.

There's no chance we will get a similar fee to Stones.
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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:16 pm

Everton are a couple of wins from the champions league.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:11 pm

Everton have a billionaire owner whose boss owns 30% of Arsenal and he wants to oust arsenal from top 4 and is willing to invest heavily including the fabled new ground - that is how he got Koeman on board and why Lukkaku has not been sold - wages at Everton would be at least £70k pw and quite possibly more

still not seen any attempt to answer the question - I think it has to do with Leicester's bid last summer and our reported valuation and the supposed middle ground between the two - my question is basically asking has he not enhanced his ability and reputation since to the extent that his valuation would increase

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by CnBtruntru » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:21 pm

Could £20m+ not also mean he is valued at £60m? :D

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:23 pm

only in the eyes of clarets

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Royboyclaret » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:53 pm

Part of the answer is that whenever Manchester City enter the market the price from the selling club immediately increases significantly. So, Everton may have valued Stones at £30m but when City showed serious interest they knew that the extra £19m would not put City off if they really wanted the player.

Then the whole market becomes skewed and, as many of us consider that Keane is of equal ability as Stones, we feel justified in demanding a similar fee. Perhaps we could, but only if City came calling, otherwise a figure of £30m will be more realistic. A lot on here were of the opinion that the £17m offer from Leicester may prove the tipping point for the Burnley Board but since then he has undoubtedly enhanced his value and it's pleasing to see that the revised value of £25m was placed on him in January. I believe Ranieri was prepared to meet this valuation but was not backed by the Thai owners.

Regarding the potential move to Everton, you'd see this as a definite possibility. They are several years ahead of us financially and posted their third Income in a row over £120m to Jun'16. Within that their Wages bill was £84m which is well over double ours and gives a clear indication as to why Everton would be a popular move for Keane.

For the moment it has to remain small steps for Burnley in our attempt to become established in the Prem but for now we are going about things in the right manner and far better than say Leicester who are now in complete disarray having offered ridiculous new contracts without relegation clauses to their average players.
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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:56 pm

One thing thats clear. Managers like mourinho dont and wont play the younger players and i can understand why.

But that means good news for us as there will be plenty of other keanes and trippiers and mees and bradys out there.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:57 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:For the moment it has to remain small steps for Burnley in our attempt to become established in the Prem but for now we are going about things in the right manner and far better than say Leicester who are now in complete disarray having offered ridiculous new contracts without relegation clauses to their average players.
Now we are starting to see some sense

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:33 pm

If he goes and whatever he is sold for we have to replace him for next season.

Keane has improved every season he has been with us and will continue to get better. He also has a fair amount of pace foe a central defender. To replace with anything like as good will be very difficult.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:51 pm

All our discussion seems to be raising the valuation - lets keep it up and raise it by more ;)

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Right_winger » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:30 pm

If city want him then a straight swap him for their back up striker Aguero.

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Re: Why does all transfer gossip value Keane at £20m+

Post by Claretto » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:51 pm

Stones was also sold after the Euros, which helps...Despite our calamitous performance

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