Gutting but...

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:55 pm

The teams below keep losing

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:57 pm

Performance was more disappointing than the result today. Shocking on the ball and just as poor off it. Why we kept letting the crosses come in without any resistance is beyond me. We had a 20 minute spell towards the end where we started closing down the crosser and we were comfortable.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:59 pm

I thought that was our worst away performance since West Brom and we scored TWICE.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:59 pm

current bottom 3 are the final bottom 3 for me

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:00 pm

Watford, Leicester, Swansea and Palace will get to 40 points I think.
Hull & Bournemouth will get about 35
Sunderland and Boro will struggle to get to 30 points

We still need three wins.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:00 pm

cutsy123 wrote:The teams below keep losing

Leicester won ,Palace won , oh and Swansea won

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:00 pm

Just said on another thread that today we've had as much luck as we're going to get away from home, and we still got beat.

Nowhere near good enough in terms of the performance.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:01 pm

Goalposts wrote:current bottom 3 are the final bottom 3 for me

We will not be far from the bottom 3 come the end of the season. If we stay up, it'll be by 2-3 points. If that's the case, then of course, brilliant - but we seem to make the same mistakes time and time again. We don't learn.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:01 pm

Rather have points in the bag than play catch up. We were poor today though, Swansea definitely deserved to win.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:02 pm

I don't think we're in any danger of the bottom 3 catching us but at this stage of the season and considering the position we're in I'd be expecting us to be looking a lot more comfortable on the ball. That was as poor as it gets.

criminalclaret · Post by **criminalclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:02 pm

Only positives I could see from that are for Andre Gray. I think the 2 goals will give him confidence to take into training and the next game....his consistency is non existent. But he is a handful for defenders.

Midfield non existent, missed creativeness there though. Could be in for a few more hoofball games until the injuries look better.

Was Barnes a 1 game ban?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:02 pm

I should add, Swansea look a very tidy side and should really be nowhere near the bottom.

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:02 pm

I think the reason we keep letting the crosses come in is because we rely on packing the box and then have a better chance of clearing them which from all accounts we did quite well today

It would be nice to find a good balance and try to close some crosses down mind

But the tactic almost worked today(almost again though)

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:02 pm

I think we need to go to the North East and take 6 points.

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:02 pm

...at least we don't support Brighton.

UTC!

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:03 pm

CBT wrote:I think the reason we keep letting the crosses come in is because we rely on packing the box and then have a better chance of clearing them which from all accounts we did quite well today

It would be nice to find a good balance and try to close some crosses down mind

But the tactic almost worked today(almost again though)

The tactic didn't almost work though. Even if we had drawn we gave them far too many free headers today.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:04 pm

I see The Big Fat Sam effect has kicked in - 6 points from two games

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:05 pm

Do we actually practice going in the opposition half in training? Very poor today

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:06 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I don't think we're in any danger of the bottom 3 catching us

I think there's a big danger of it happening. Let's just say I don't think we'll be anywhere near 9 or more points clear of 18th when the season has ended.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:06 pm

Only potential points in next four games against Sunderland away - need to pick up the performance levels

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:06 pm

Rileybobs wrote:The tactic didn't almost work though. Even if we had drawn we gave them far too many free headers today.

Didn't watch the game so can't comment personally but Phil Thompson said Keane and mee were outstanding

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:06 pm

joey13 wrote:Leicester won ,Palace won , oh and Swansea won

Teams below us in the relegation places

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:07 pm

Did the tactic really work out when 3 headers hit the crossbar?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:07 pm

CBT wrote:Didn't watch the game so can't comment personally but Phil Thompson said Keane and mee were outstanding

They did play well because they were defending a cross every minute.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:08 pm

Looks like we'll be playing Blackburn again next season

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:08 pm

CBT wrote:Didn't watch the game so can't comment personally but Phil Thompson said Keane and mee were outstanding

Thomson talks bo11ocks

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:08 pm

I'm more disappointed by the performance than the result. We didn't deserve anything today. Still 9 points clear of bottom 3. Not bad at all.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:09 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Looks like we'll be playing Blackburn again next season

Based on what? Boro, Hull and Sunderland look like a lost cause.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:09 pm

FactualFrank wrote:We will not be far from the bottom 3 come the end of the season. If we stay up, it'll be by 2-3 points. If that's the case, then of course, brilliant - but we seem to make the same mistakes time and time again. We don't learn.

I'd say we have learnt looking at our current league position, compared to our last two visits to the PL.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:09 pm

Spijed wrote:Based on what? Boro, Hull and Sunderland look like a lost cause.

In The FA Cup

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:09 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Looks like we'll be playing Blackburn again next season

Depends on the cup draws I suppose.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:10 pm

We know that we allow crosses and long shots in favour of getting bodies in the way of their destination, I'd be more critical of 28.8% possession but in fairness it isn't our style to sit back with the ball, and we did score 2.

I prefer though just to think how good we would be if we had Llorente and Sigurdsson (who didn't start at the Turf) playing for us. They are magnificent and not a bottom three side with them playing.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:10 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I think there's a big danger of it happening. Let's just say I don't think we'll be anywhere near 9 or more points clear of 18th when the season has ended.

If you think that any of the current bottom 3 will gain 9 points or more on us in the next 11 games then feel free to worry. We'll continue to pick up points between now and the end of the season. We may or may not end the season 9 points clear of the relegation zone but it's looking like we'll survive comfortably.

Joe14 · Post by **Joe14** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:11 pm

Ha ha cracks me up reading the over reaction posts

Some of you need to get a serious grip of yourselves

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:12 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Watford, Leicester, Swansea and Palace will get to 40 points I think.
Hull & Bournemouth will get about 35
Sunderland and Boro will struggle to get to 30 points

We still need three wins.

I think you need to check your sums.

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:12 pm

Rileybobs wrote:They did play well because they were defending a cross every minute.

I think against llorente it prob wasn't the best tactic then but it has worked in some games this season

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:14 pm

I hope Tom gets better quick..Robinson was abysmal today,our record signing is finding it quite hard going as well

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:14 pm

Joe14 wrote:Ha ha cracks me up reading the over reaction posts

Some of you need to get a serious grip of yourselves

They are far from an overreaction. They are justified at was has been yet another away day disaster of a performance. I have honestly no idea why we are so bad away from home

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:15 pm

Spijed wrote:Based on what? Boro, Hull and Sunderland look like a lost cause.

These boys will struggle to win again

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:17 pm

We defended the same way at home to Chelsea and it worked really well. If we honest, though, playing against these sorts of teams we need to be better on the ball. You cant keep playing with 25% possession away from home.

Defensively, we're a good enough unit to see games through once we are 2-1 up with 25 minutes to go and it is the fact we have been unable to even see out a point that is most disappointing.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:19 pm

Can't believe no one has mentioned the blatant push in the back of mee for their third???

Seen it replayed a couple of times on the tv and it's as plain as the nose on your face.

Anyway, first away win at anfield will be nice.

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:20 pm

2 points away from home all season isn't an overreaction chief regardless of our position in the table; if you had seen today's game you would have seen a team that hasn't learnt much away from home from both players and manager; we were well beaten and even given a goal. But we should have enough for this season; we really need to start tightening up though and learning to play away in prep for next season.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:20 pm

Completely battered for 94 minutes...never seen us in a more one-sided defeat...did we play badly?..not sure - they certainly played very well and are not going down...it was a very good game to watch..Swansea passed it well, were inventive, athletic.. what a good afternoon of football, we were on the wrong end of it this week.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:21 pm

joey13 wrote:Thomson talks bo11ocks

He didn`t talk bo11ocks today

Keane and Mee both played well - both our full backs got murdered by Carrol, Siggurdson,Olson etc.

We did not deserve a win or draw today - they outplayed us and looked a good side.

At least we lost to 3 excellent goals.

We hung in there though and very nearly got a point.

If Swansea carry on playing like this they will end up mid table.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:21 pm

Rileybobs wrote:We may or may not end the season 9 points clear of the relegation zone but it's looking like we'll survive comfortably.

You see this is where I beg to differ. Out of our remaining games, I don't think we'll pick up many points. One poster said we don't need many points - we don't - but that's not my point. My point is we'll be down there near the bottom with a few games to go. Hopefully, we'll be ok, but we'll still be involved in the relegation drop come the end of the season.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:22 pm

I'm actually reassured - Palace despite winning two in a row have a lot of tough games - Spurs, Watford, Arsenal, Leicester, Us and Hull at home
Chelsea, Southampton, Liverpool, City & United away - That could easily be 0 points away and maybe only 6 points at home

Bournemouth have - West Ham, Swansea, Chelsea, Boro, Stoke and Us at home - they should beat us & Boro
and Southampton, Liverpool, Spurs, Sunderland and Leicester away. (might only beat Sunderland)

Boro have got - Sunderland, United, Us, Arsenal, City and Southampton at home (can't see them getting more than 6 points)
and Swansea, Hull, Bournemouth, Chelsea and Liverpool away (again possibly 0 points away)

Slightly more reassured.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:24 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I think you need to check your sums.

It was also before I looked at the fixtures of Palace and Bournemouth

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:26 pm

FactualFrank wrote:You see this is where I beg to differ. Out of our remaining games, I don't think we'll pick up many points. One poster said we don't need many points - we don't - but that's not my point. My point is we'll be down there near the bottom with a few games to go. Hopefully, we'll be ok, but we'll still be involved in the relegation drop come the end of the season.

You might be right, but it needs a breathtaking lack of faith in a team which are picking up well over a point a game to suggest we won't pick up many points from the remaining games. I think its more likely we will end the season reasonably comfortable, on about 40 points.

Dressinggown · Post by **Dressinggown** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:28 pm

I would have been better in the nets today despite having eight pints of Black Dragon cider before the game.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:29 pm

The bottom three will struggle to get thirty points, never mind forty.

Well stay up, no sweat.