How good will we make Sunderland look?

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:45 pm

After we have got our loss live on sky at Anfield next week out of the way, we will have to visit the inept out of form mackems, just how good can we make them look? Like the Liverpool team of the 80's? Barcelona? Or maybe Man United under Fergie.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:46 pm

Spoken like a true supporter. Tosser!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:49 pm

As good as a John Benson Burnley team, hopefully.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:56 pm

This has potential.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:08 pm

Leisure wrote:Spoken like a true supporter. Tosser!

Remind me to toss the coach fare to you next time

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:10 pm

Hopefully just as good as we made them look in our previous meetings this season.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:18 pm

morpheus2 wrote:Remind me to toss the coach fare to you next time

Don't be giving Leisure a hard time just because he didn't 'get' it sister Morphine...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C39kQoprfP0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:35 pm

We'll make Pickford look like the next Buffon and it still won't be enough to stop us beating them. ☺

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:46 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1RrJjDdXoA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:01 am

Cheers BOT - not listened to that for yonks. top top band

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:16 am

However good we make Sunderland look let's hope
they make us look a lot better.

So, a great match. Both teams going for it.
And we come from 3-1 down to win 4-3 with a last minute thunderbolt
from Gray. Hendrick, Vokes and Keane get the others.
We're the first match on Match of the Day.
Oh. and a kindly Russian billionaire, having watched the game on the telly
decides to invest 100m into the club - no strings attached.

Well, there's no harm in dreaming is there?

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:23 am

Such a important game. I think if we get the 3pts we more or less condemn them & more or less guarantee safety for ourselves.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:48 am

We've played them 3 times and looked like the better team in each of them, won 2.

There's absolutely no reason to think we won't give them a good game again. Sunderland are going into games now under huge pressure to win. That could spur them on but I've seen very little to suggest they're capable.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:39 am

First goal is so important in this game ( it is in every game ) if we can score first the place will turn toxic, and only play into our hands.
Fans were heading for the exits as soon as City got their 2nd yesterday.

I'm not sure if the exact fact or even if its true but sky stated burnley have not come from behind to win a game in their previous 36 away games under Sean Dyche.

Not sure if it's premier league only. ( Dyche hasn't had 36 away games in the premiere league so possibly counting our maiden season too )

P.s when we're the last time we came from behind to win away from home.
Birmingham away?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:32 am

We've played them three times this season.

I think that 4-1 was one of the most one sided games you will see at this level, and the 2-0 was ridiculously comfortable at this level.

They might win, but the pressure on them will be huge if they continue their current form.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:33 am

Where's that panic button gif gone?

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:29 am

Sunderland will have to win, we don't so a nice, steady grip on the game after Sunderland's initial 20 minute bluster will do nicely.
If we do concede early, we get after them.

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:51 am

jurek wrote: Oh. and a kindly Russian billionaire, having watched the game on the telly
decides to invest 100m into the club - no strings attached.

Well, there's no harm in dreaming is there?

Saxo in disguise?

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:15 am

MACCA wrote:First goal is so important in this game ( it is in every game ) if we can score first the place will turn toxic, and only play into our hands.
Fans were heading for the exits as soon as City got their 2nd yesterday.

I'm not sure if the exact fact or even if its true but sky stated burnley have not come from behind to win a game in their previous 36 away games under Sean Dyche.

Not sure if it's premier league only. ( Dyche hasn't had 36 away games in the premiere league so possibly counting our maiden season too )

P.s when we're the last time we came from behind to win away from home.
Birmingham away?

Bolton was less than 36 away games ago

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:17 am

jurek wrote:However good we make Sunderland look let's hope
they make us look a lot better.

So, a great match. Both teams going for it.
And we come from 3-1 down to win 4-3 with a last minute thunderbolt
from Gray. Hendrick, Vokes and Keane get the others.
We're the first match on Match of the Day.
Oh. and a kindly Russian billionaire, having watched the game on the telly
decides to invest 100m into the club - no strings attached.

Well, there's no harm in dreaming is there?

I do hope that the Board will not entertain any foreign investor unless he invests more than £1billion. To be owned by fans of the club is worth a huge sum of money

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:20 am

The previous two premier league visits and recent fa cup game Sunderland have been pretty poor yet we still haven't managed a win there.
0-0 I'm going for there in a drab affair, with the away win coming at Palace.

iluva64 · Post by **iluva64** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:23 am

How good does it look?............... It looks like SH*T

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:42 am

Down_Rover wrote:Bolton was less than 36 away games ago

Might be premier league away games only then.

Our away wins have been very few in our 2 and a half years in the premier league, and can recall ever going behind then winning.

Hull x 2
Villa 1-0
Stoke 2-1

Is all I recall in terms of away wins, and we took the lead in all of them.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:47 am

We are 12th in the Premier League with 31 points from 27 games, a position surely better than any of us thought possible. And we still get threads like this.

iluva64 · Post by **iluva64** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:20 am

Mantra: - ave 1point per game in the Prem and we are safe. At the moment we are 4 points ahead of schedule.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:33 am

Trouble is some of the younger fans have never seen hardship
I was happy with an apple and an Orange in my stocking UTC

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:37 am

ClaretTony wrote:We are 12th in the Premier League with 31 points from 27 games, a position surely better than any of us thought possible. And we still get threads like this.

But we haven't won an away game yet.

Sunderland have won two.

I wish we were more like Sunderland.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:42 am

I think it is more a concern moving forward into next season.

Also it's not a criticism for some it's more of a "why are the performances home and away poles apart" We look like we can beat anyone at home, however away the team looks a shadow of itself to the one that plays at home

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:01 pm

Tall Paul wrote:But we haven't won an away game yet.

Sunderland have won two.

I wish we were more like Sunderland.

You wish we were more like Sunderland? Good for you, I'm happy we aren't and happy we are 12 points clear of them.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:09 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Don't be giving Leisure a hard time just because he didn't 'get' it sister Morphine...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C39kQoprfP0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Please enlighten me as what I didn't 'get'?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:10 pm

Wish we were more like Sunderland?

Don't get me wrong, I can (and do) have my moments, but this has to be the craziest thing posted on here for a good long while.

Utterly bizarre.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:11 pm

Sarcasm, how does it work?

It seems that a lot of people round here would like to be more like Sunderland with their two away wins.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:06 pm

Don't think anyone has said they would rather have Sunderland's points tally over ours.

Think people have said even Sunderland have had 2 away wins... one 4-0!

So your sarcasm may have been lost with you either
Making things up or
Answering a post that wasn't there

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:15 pm

Leisure wrote:Please enlighten me as what I didn't 'get'?

That Morpheus is codding.

The longer you post on message boards the more you get to know the posters who post on them.

I'm going for us making Sunderland look like an 80's Liverpool side. The one which lost to Wimbledon in the FA Cup final to be precise.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:38 pm

I don't think we made Swansea look good. Bob Bradley just made them both look and perform exceptionally badly.

They actually aren't a bad team, and are, I think, the only ones to take 6 points off us this year without cheating. If only we had played them when they had the American in charge.................

On a good note, I think that we have now already beaten every side that we have left to play away.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:46 pm

timshorts wrote:
On a good note, I think that we have now already beaten every side that we have left to play away.

In our history maybe but not Spurs this season.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:48 pm

We don't have to play Spurs away...

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:20 pm

MACCA wrote:We don't have to play Spurs away...

Well spotted Macca

leedsdave · Post by **leedsdave** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:23 pm

".......sky stated burnley have not come from behind to win a game in their previous 36 away games under Sean Dyche.

Not sure if it's premier league only. ( Dyche hasn't had 36 away games in the premiere league so possibly counting our maiden season too )"

What Sky actually said was that we haven't come from behind to win a Premier League game under Sean Dyche and that here had been 35 such games before Saturday.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:32 pm

So we have fallen behind 36 times under Mr Dyche in the premier league and failed to win any?

If that's the case it seems more of a reason to get the first goal, and also backs up many people's opinions that it's game over at 1-0 down away.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:43 pm

MACCA wrote:So we have fallen behind 36 times under Mr Dyche in the premier league and failed to win any?

If that's the case it seems more of a reason to get the first goal, and also backs up many people's opinions that it's game over at 1-0 down away.

In recent weeks 3 of the last 4 games have obviously been a little different in that when we've gone behind we've either drawn level (had a point snatched away from us at Arsenal), gone on to draw at Hull, and gone into the lead at Swansea. So in the last few weeks going 1-0 down is far from game over.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:52 pm

Spijed wrote:In recent weeks 3 of the last 4 games have obviously been a little different in that when we've gone behind we've either drawn level (had a point snatched away from us at Arsenal), gone on to draw at Hull, and gone into the lead at Swansea. So in the last few weeks going 1-0 down is far from game over.

What many people were suggesting early on in the season. No plan B , reactive not proactive, playing not to get hammered etc were mentioned.

The fact is that when we go behind we can't seem to turn the game on its head through a change of personnel, system or tactics.

When/if we get level we often revert back to the pre match plan of sit back and hope a chance falls our way. We don't go for the jugular if the opposition is on the ropes. ( although a great side, City away is the prime example )

When we go in front we rarely lose ( understandable againot top sides ) but baring a mistake we get something from the game.

It seems away we are scared to go out and have a go, I just hope when we are safe , we experiment with different formations, personnel and attitude to see if we can find some answers. We don't want this situation becoming a hangover next season.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:16 pm

They played well yesterday against City until the first goal then their heads drop - very important we score first in an away game for a change !

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:44 pm

MACCA wrote:Might be premier league away games only then.

Our away wins have been very few in our 2 and a half years in the premier league, and can recall ever going behind then winning.

Hull x 2
Villa 1-0
Stoke 2-1

Is all I recall in terms of away wins, and we took the lead in all of them.

We went 1-0 down within 3 minutes in the first hull away win

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:48 pm

the commentator mentioned a stat on saturday and it was something like when Burnley have gone behind in a Premier League away game they haven't won in 36 attempts.

He also said that Swansea had NEVER won a home game with Anthony Taylor in charge !

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:13 pm

The only way we are going to win an away game is to score twice early on and defend for our lives like stoke away.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:19 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:the commentator mentioned a stat on saturday and it was something like when Burnley have gone behind in a Premier League away game they haven't won in 36 attempts.

He also said that Swansea had NEVER won a home game with Anthony Taylor in charge !

And theirs me thinking you were going to say we have never been beat 700 - 0

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:27 pm

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:20 pm

We will stand a better chance if we drop Brady to the bench

Tinribs · Post by **Tinribs** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:39 pm

Well we are averaging 2pts a game on the Turf and with 5 games to go we should be more than safe,even if we just pick up another 5 at home it will mean Boro hull and sunderland having to get 15 or 16 points from their last 11 games.
Lets bear in mind sunderland have 19 pts from their last 27 games.
Anything we pick up away is an added bonus.
Relax.