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OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by MACCA » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:25 pm

I have a Renault scenic which has an electric hand
Break. ( the lever pull type )

Yesterday it wouldn't work with the alarm sounding and a "parking break fault" message on the dash.
I tried everything to try and release the hand break.

Anyone out there had similar problems or know the solution?

I have pulled the yellow overide lever in the boot, so now I can drive it but have to leave it in gear and can only park on a flat road until it's fixed.

Any help or advice off the petrol heads on here would be greatly appreciated, I don't have a clue about cars.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Diesel » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:28 pm

Do you like your car?

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by ClaretEngineer » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:28 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofjtk531yjM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cursory search of the net shows the control unit to be the problem. It looks like this unit operates a pair cables to pull the handbrake on (unlike the VW system of actuators on the calipers = expensive)
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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by ClaretAndJew » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:29 pm

Could be a few thing.

Rear caliper, or even as simple as needing a new battery.

Not sure if it can be diagnosed by a regular garage, maybe need to go to a dealership, depending on how much cash you can afford to spend on it.

Sid will be your best bet though.

Once you've overwritten the brake in the boot it can only be reset by Renault I think.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Damo » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:33 pm

As stated, the handbrake will need to be recalibrated using can clip (renault diagnostics)
Plenty of garages will have the software if you want to avoid paying the stealership.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by MACCA » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:45 pm

Diesel wrote:Do you like your car?
Not particularly, a new one ( not Renault scenic ) is my next purchase.
I bought it purely as it has 7 seats.
ClaretAndJew wrote:Could be a few thing.

Rear caliper, or even as simple as needing a new battery.

Not sure if it can be diagnosed by a regular garage, maybe need to go to a dealership, depending on how much cash you can afford to spend on it.

Sid will be your best bet though.

Once you've overwritten the brake in the boot it can only be reset by Renault I think.
I have already had the drivers side real caliper replaced on the last MOT last summer.

Cheers for the help so far.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Diesel » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:04 pm

MACCA wrote:Not particularly, a new one ( not Renault scenic ) is my next purchase.
I bought it purely as it has 7 seats..
I didn't think so, in fact, in all the time you've been posting on this board you haven't 'liked' anything. Literally.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:10 pm

I'll be honest, I've zero experience of the Renault electronic brakes.

If Paul is still in charge down at Reedley service centre on Lomeshaye it's probably worth giving him a ring.

He's a former Renault Master Tech from what I remember so he may be able to help you out.

*I've looked on his website, he's still the owner

http://www.burnleygarage.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by MACCA » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:12 pm

Diesel wrote:I didn't think so, in fact, in all the time you've been posting on this board you haven't 'liked' anything. Literally.
I'm extremely hard to please, I set very high standards.

But I do "like" posts/comments, I just choose to acknowledge them in a different manner by addressing or quoting the poster to congratulate them, rather than just press the button

Can you recommend a car, I got rid of my Audi after I got bullied, now the Renault is no good, and I have struggled with only 1 car in the house because of selling the Audi.
What is an acceptable car to buy/drive?

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:22 pm

MACCA wrote: Can you recommend a car, I got rid of my Audi after I got bullied, now the Renault is no good, and I have struggled with only 1 car in the house because of selling the Audi.
What is an acceptable car to buy/drive?
I'm trying to work out if you're serious or not with that question :?

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by MACCA » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:14 pm

I am looking for new vehicle. 9 seater mini bus type if possible. Seen Vauxhall and for transit types, but wouldn't know the best runners etc.

But yes I'm serious. I'll be wanting a new family car too, but looking at something a bit bigger like a Volvo X60 ( think its X60 ) or BMW X5 but been warned off them.

Like I said useless with cars, but touch wood never really had 1 that's had constant issues yet

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:26 pm

Ah ok, so a lot of it is going to be dependent on how it's being used.
If it's mainly town usage/school runs/shopping then don't bother with a diesel, you'll end up killing it due to the DPF clogging up.
Google it if you're not sure what I'm talking about, it's a 'filter' on the exhaust system that needs to be driven for long journey's to help keep it free of 'soot'.
The AA did a good article on it, have a read here - https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/fu ... te-filters" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A DPF on an SUV will cost upwards of £500 to replace plus labour and ancillaries.
The new ones on the VAG range will cost upwards of £1k I think due to their system.

Most cars nowadays are purchased purely down to brand preference/habit.
You're better off actually going out and test driving a range of them, seeing what best suits YOU more then listening to anyone else, because you're the one who's got to drive it.

For example I like the Peugeot hatchbacks, but there a lots of people who won't buy them due to the age old excuse of 'dodgy' electrics.
I know people who get all excited about VW/Audi's and proclaim them as the most reliable cars on the market when actually they aren't.

Same with Ford having a bad rep from years ago etc.

Volvo - good solid motors, have become pricer in recent years as they expand into the luxury SUV market - that's the XC range, 60, 90 etc.
BMW - have a good rep, but they do have niggly issues that occur with age like anything else, so they aren't bullet proof.

Land Rover/ Jag have some models out, but they're a lot of money plus the Discovery 4 does have issues and the new model out this year is an unknown quantity at present.

Feel free to ask if you're not sure, I don't mind chatting about cars and I'm more then happy to give out my email address.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:28 pm

Minibus - Vauxhall, Renault and Nissan's are all the same vehicle pretty much, just different badges and interior trim, but they share everything else.
I think they run the Renault engines too, but I'd need to check that.

You know what you're getting with a Ford and Merc, they've been around a while now.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by MACCA » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:38 pm

Cheers for that Sidney.

And no word of a lie the wife's just nipped the bank and the warning message isn't coming on and the hand break is working now... very confusing.
That's stumped me.

Still looking for a fresh one in the summer. Needs to be 9 seats minimum, don't mind 12.

Will run the Renault until it breaks as it is used for weekends too at the minute as it's not overly big around town.

I've had A Volvo before and it was bullit proof ( well it seemed so ) and the audi did me 5 years with no issues other than tyres, pads and general wear and tear before selling it.

I'm torn as to what to buy for a family car due to the horror stories of bills going into the thousands. When I'm used to buying 5 year old cars, and them lasting me 5 years with no issues. ( up to now )

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:46 pm

sidney1st.ro@googlemail.com

Ping me an email if you're not sure and I'll answer with what I know to look out for.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:47 pm

MACCA wrote:Cheers for that Sidney.

And no word of a lie the wife's just nipped the bank and the warning message isn't coming on and the hand break is working now... very confusing.
That's stumped me.
Could be a faulty electrical contact, frayed cable etc.

Multiple things, but until it stays on or is on at a garage/workshop they'll struggle to find it.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by MACCA » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:12 pm

Cheers Sidney I'll add your email when I'm back home.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:50 pm

No worries, I do try to answer as quick as possible, but of course it depends on what's going on in the world.
They do come to my phone though which helps.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by BennyD » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:12 pm

My advice; don't buy French cars because, generally, they are sh!t. Stick with German because, generally, they aren't.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by lesxdp » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:45 pm

Now I know who you are!
Depending what you want to spend on a mini bus I think I know of one coming up for sale soon. High mileage but well looked after. A clue for you,, it is blue and you will have seen it!!

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Belial » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:45 pm

Fisrtly, I wouldn't correlate a Renault Scenic with 'petrol heads'

Secondly, agree with Sidney...those new Volvo XC's are the dogs knacks

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Post by ClaretEngineer » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:48 pm

Belial wrote:Fisrtly, I wouldn't correlate a Renault Scenic with 'petrol heads'

Secondly, agree with Sidney...those new Volvo XC's are the dogs knacks
Maybe not Belial, but those of us handy with tools often have to suffer at the hands of a French car :lol:

Agree. Volvo XC90 is the dogs knob.
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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:49 pm

BennyD wrote:My advice; don't buy French cars because, generally, they are sh!t. Stick with German because, generally, they aren't.
Which German car are you referring too then, because I can provide lots of information that would prove you're wrong.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by MACCA » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:24 pm

lesxdp wrote:Now I know who you are!
Depending what you want to spend on a mini bus I think I know of one coming up for sale soon. High mileage but well looked after. A clue for you,, it is blue and you will have seen it!!
Damn you got me :lol:
( the nets closing in on me with a few on here )

Definitely interested!

Please give me a knock a little while before you're selling it, as I can make plans then , as we would be very interested in it.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by BennyD » Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:42 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Which German car are you referring too then, because I can provide lots of information that would prove you're wrong.
I am sure you can. However, speaking from personal experience I've now had 6 German cars, 4 X BMs and 2 X VWs and never had an issue other than consumables. Apart from my new 335D X-drive, all the others have ended up with over 100,000 miles and my wife's 04 E46 320D Touring now has 267,000 with no problems and even the swirl flaps were too tight to undo (at 200,000). We are keeping it until it passes the 300,000 mark and then I'll replace it with a new 330D Touring.

German reliability is good enough for me whereas French reliability isn't. I've had a Renault 21 which dropped its fuel tank on the road because the mounting brackets rusted through and a Citroen Xantia which stranded me when one of the hydraulic line connections exploded and I lost suspension, then brakes and steering. You pays your money and takes your chance but I'm sticking with German diesels.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Belial » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:08 pm

BennyD wrote:I am sure you can. However, speaking from personal experience I've now had 6 German cars, 4 X BMs and 2 X VWs and never had an issue other than consumables. Apart from my new 335D X-drive, all the others have ended up with over 100,000 miles and my wife's 04 E46 320D Touring now has 267,000 with no problems and even the swirl flaps were too tight to undo (at 200,000). We are keeping it until it passes the 300,000 mark and then I'll replace it with a new 330D Touring.

German reliability is good enough for me whereas French reliability isn't. I've had a Renault 21 which dropped its fuel tank on the road because the mounting brackets rusted through and a Citroen Xantia which stranded me when one of the hydraulic line connections exploded and I lost suspension, then brakes and steering. You pays your money and takes your chance but I'm sticking with German diesels.
Your wife's swirl flaps are too tight? You need to get that sorted ;)

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by CnBtruntru » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:11 pm

Having been a Renault owner one resounding answer Scrap It.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:27 pm

In all fairness the Xantia was a massive pile of crap.

A Renault 21? :lol:

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by BennyD » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:50 pm

It was virtually given to me and I used it as a spare car. Comfortable but sh!t. In the end I offered it to specialist breakers as it had lots of decent spares on it, but no one wanted it so it got scrapped. Never bought French again.

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Re: OT Renault Scenic help please

Post by WestMidsClaret » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:01 am

MACCA wrote:I have a Renault scenic which has an electric hand
Break. ( the lever pull type )

Yesterday it wouldn't work with the alarm sounding and a "parking break fault" message on the dash.
I tried everything to try and release the hand break.

Anyone out there had similar problems or know the solution?

I have pulled the yellow overide lever in the boot, so now I can drive it but have to leave it in gear and can only park on a flat road until it's fixed.

Any help or advice off the petrol heads on here would be greatly appreciated, I don't have a clue about cars.
Exactly the same thing has happened to our Citroen C4 Picasso except we can still drive with no alarms etc. I've no advice or solutions though as I'm not a car expert! It's going to the garage next week to suss out the problem. Must be a French thing :lol:

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