Do the FA need to step in and stop clubs getting into debt?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:13 pm

There have been lots of instances this year where I see fans of various clubs on FB demanding the FA step in and sort out their club.

"The death of East Midlands football in one image.
Think it's about time the FA did something about it (especially Fawaz) we've finished lower and lower every season and this season could be the tipping point where we get relegated."
(The image was of Fawaz from Forest and Mel at Derby)

Is it down to the FA to ensure clubs are run in an appropriate manner?
If clubs were forced to run in a sensible manner, wouldn't the fans just whine about the FA?
Is it the PL's fault for not doing enough to stop clubs running up silly amounts of debt, which then trickles down the leagues?

I see it almost weekly from Rovers fans too, still demanding the FA step in and throw the Venky's out.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:24 pm

Sidney1st wrote:There have been lots of instances this year where I see fans of various clubs on FB demanding the FA step in and sort out their club.

"The death of East Midlands football in one image.
Think it's about time the FA did something about it (especially Fawaz) we've finished lower and lower every season and this season could be the tipping point where we get relegated."
(The image was of Fawaz from Forest and Mel at Derby)

Is it down to the FA to ensure clubs are run in an appropriate manner?
If clubs were forced to run in a sensible manner, wouldn't the fans just whine about the FA?
Is it the PL's fault for not doing enough to stop clubs running up silly amounts of debt, which then trickles down the leagues?

I see it almost weekly from Rovers fans too, still demanding the FA step in and throw the Venky's out.

Fawaz, Morris, Venkys and many more have arrived at their clubs with a fanfare of trumpets with said fans all claiming we are going to blow everybody out of the water now with our limitless funds. Then In less than a couple years when the well has run dry and the anticipated progression as subsided in to an almighty slump the very same fans want the FA to sort it out.

The FA has its problems but telling the likes of Rovers and Forest to get ****** isn't one of them.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:24 pm

The FA dont own the franchise on any of these teams so there is little they can do.

Ironically the only thing they seem able to do is further penalise said clubs by docking points and imposing restrictions.

They don't be able to do anything but try keeping a level playing field for other clubs by imposing these sanctions.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:26 pm

There certainly should be something written into the Rules and Laws of the competition that clubs can't operate at a loss, nor can they win a trophy / title etc. FFP is supposed to address this, however there have been no significant punishments dished out yet.

Does FFP apply to all leagues including the Premier League?

Edit: Monetary fines have little impact to clubs other than those in the lower leagues. Points based fines would be a much better punishment.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:29 pm

No they certainly shouldn't step in..If a badly run club is daft enough to get into deep debt,they deserve all they get.. They should be automatically relegated at least a division..

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:34 pm

conyoviejo wrote:No they certainly shouldn't step in..If a badly run club is daft enough to get into deep debt,they deserve all they get.. They should be automatically relegated at least a division..

Or 2 in the case of Rovers?

Sausage · Post by **Sausage** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:51 pm

We should let clubs go to the wall. Unfortunately, HMRC and the courts are far too lenient in the case of football clubs and unpaid tax. Take Portsmouth as an example; how many times did they survive winding-up orders? The reality is that if clubs are allowed to enter administration and either re-form or enter into Company Voluntary Arrangement, they will use this as a failsafe rather than using financial prudence in the first place. So, to answer the question, the sanction lies with the respective leagues rather than the FA. The Premier League and Football League should automatically relegate any football club that goes into administration. Any club that has to reform as new legal entity should be relegated to League Two, just as the Scottish League did with Rangers (SEVCO). I would extend the sanction to FFP too. Forget the fines, just relegate them.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:06 pm

Flip it on its head, do the FA need to go to clubs who are spending ridiculous amounts of unearned money, creating an uneven playing field for everyone else and tell them to stop it because they're ruining the game for other clubs?

Nah, that would be stupid. As would this.

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