Pep Guardiola

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:37 pm

Has there ever been a more overrated manager?

Takes Riijkards Barcelona to glory with the best players of all time.
Takes a great Bayern side in a very heavily one sided league to nothing but expected league titles.
Takes city out in the quarters.

My dog could achieve that and hes dead.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:42 pm

You can't judge him fairly until he's spent circa £200 million.

Until then, leave him alone.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:42 pm

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:52 pm

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:54 pm

Aside from the fact that he actually developed the core of Barca's team through their youth team and ultimately turned them into perhaps the best club side of all time.

Whether his style and philosophy will ultimately work in the premier league remains to be seen but he needs the right players for his system, much as we do for ours.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:56 pm

Luckiest man alive.
Ronnie Whelan has just summed it up perfectly on RTE.
Makes football far too complicated for his players.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:59 pm

Any manager worth his salt couldve achieved what he did with Barca. Anyone.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:03 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Has there ever been a more overrated manager?

Takes Riijkards Barcelona to glory with the best players of all time.
Takes a great Bayern side in a very heavily one sided league to nothing but expected league titles.
Takes city out in the quarters.

My dog could achieve that and hes dead.

Rijkaard's Barca were a complete shambles by the end of his tenure. To say he just inherited the perfect side and told them to play is very unfair.

Guardiola will go down in history as the architect and coach of possibly the greatest club side there's ever been.

His record at City so far is certainly up for debate, though.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:05 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Any manager worth his salt couldve achieved what he did with Barca. Anyone.

Did Rijkaard? Without looking he was a big failure wasn't he?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:09 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Did Rijkaard? Without looking he was a big failure wasn't he?

He won barcas second chanpions league and first in 15 years for a start. And won a couple of championships.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:16 pm

He didn't win a thing in his last few seasons there.

bigtackle · Post by **bigtackle** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:03 pm

Steve1956 wrote:No!

Klippety klopp overated. Oh and the championship dutch speaking chappy....

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:08 pm

bigtackle wrote:Klippety klopp overated. Oh and the championship dutch speaking chappy....

I was talking to a guy at work about Klopp,Klopp isn't a great manager he just has a fantastic personality..I said .....he wouldn't have it,I think I will be proved right in the long term though!

bigtackle · Post by **bigtackle** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:14 pm

Klopps just someone down the pub type of guy....always laughing,thinking how the f..k have i got away with it for so long.imo

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:33 pm

Discussion on 5live tonight, as I was driving Home, was that in the first half Man City should have changed play to put some longer balls forward. That would have disrupted the successful pressing. However, it was made clear that only Mr G can make that change, not an intelligent player!

Example given: Thierry Henry playing for Barca is told to stay out wide. He sees opportunity, cuts in and scores. Outcome: Subbed at H/T for disobeying manager!
Sounds like he is unable to place flexibility in the hands of his players. That can o my produce his downfall.

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