Karanka gone

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:04 pm

There are a whole list of managers who'd have been able to make them more organised and more solid at the back but their trouble is they can't score and that's surely much harder to fix. I'm not convinced that swapping Rhodes and Nugent for Gestede and Bamford made any sense at all.

I'd have liked to see him stay but I can't see them being much more attractive to available managers than we were when Coyle buggered off.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:09 pm

I wonder if our visiters from Boro will be along later?

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:11 pm

We have 3 games before we play them and it is very possible we will get 5-7 points from them, in which case how we do against Boro isn't relevant, whereas if we mess up those 3 games even Karanka could have beaten us.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:18 pm

A shame as he was doing such good job for us over there.

On the plus side tomorrows curry is on Boro

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:30 pm

Shouldnt affect us as we should just concentrate on what we have to do which I am sure Dyche and co will.

We shoudnt be looking over our shoulders on 31 points with ten games left and having travelled away to all of the top 6.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:31 pm

In fact Everton aside we have travelled to all of the top 13

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:32 pm

shame as he was doing a great job but he can fully concentrate on his obsession with us now.

its largely irrelevant to us, we only need to worry about ourselves.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:43 pm

Will karanka be back on Monday?

Selby Claret · Post by **Selby Claret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:59 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Haven't won a game or scored a goal in Prem this year.

Not true - but i agree with your analysis

Man of Kent · Post by **Man of Kent** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:12 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Oh, come on, guys.... is it always snowing in Burnley?

Nothing has "happened to us." Another football team has lost their manager. It's got nothing to do with Burnley - it has no impact on our team. We haven't "lost our manager" because Sean Dyche is a great manager, we are on 31 points and have got 10 games left to get some more. Burnley will be playing Premier League football again next season.

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Hey,hey, caaaalm down, caaalm down. I was only talking about an inevitable defeat to a temporarily-rejuvenated Middlesbrough, not relegation. The thought had never crossed my mind. It isn't always snowing in Burnley but it rains a heck of a lot though.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:20 pm

Karanka's dismissal doesn't affect us in the slightest. Stop panicking.

Relax.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:24 pm

You would think that whichever manager, whether at Palace, Leicester (temp), Hull, Swansea or Boro will immediately be sacked if the team gets relegated.

Hardly good for their CV.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:25 pm

a few facts (lifted from BBC webste)

Middlesbrough:
Worst shot conversion rate in 2016-17, including blocked shots, of 7.76%.
Fewest touches inside the opposition box - 392 in 27 games, an average of 14.5 per game.
Fewest shots from outside the box - 16 in 27 games.
Scored one goal from outside the box, another Premier League low.
Created the fewest chances - 173 including assists.
And history is not on their side...

In 15 of the 25 Premier League seasons since 1992, the lowest scorers have been relegated.
Since 1992, only 14 other teams have scored 19 goals or fewer after 27 Premier League games. Only five of them have stayed up.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:29 pm

Man of Kent wrote:Hey,hey, caaaalm down, caaalm down. I was only talking about an inevitable defeat to a temporarily-rejuvenated Middlesbrough, not relegation. The thought had never crossed my mind. It isn't always snowing in Burnley but it rains a heck of a lot though.

Hi Man of Kent, yes, my comments not specifically responding to you. But, given where we are (League table, not geography) we shouldn't be worrying about other teams changing their manager.

Burnley kept confidence with Sean Dyche two seasons ago. We are successful today because we did that.

Boro might get a lift from change of management, but it didn't work for them last season.

Of course, neither you nor I live in Burnley.

Let's look forward to Saturday and Sunderland: one-game-at-a-time.

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Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:43 pm

not happy about this one bit

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:53 pm

Spijed wrote:If Nigel Pearson goes there it might just get them out of trouble.

I don't get all this Nigel Pearson adoration.

In my mind a very average manager with an ego which is far bigger than his capabilities.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:05 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:not happy about this one bit

The one positive is that all the clubs with new managers can't keep on picking points on a regular basis due to them having to play each other.

For example, Swansea have Bournemouth away at the weekend, followed by Boro at home. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that they could be back in deep trouble after those games.

And then Hull play Boro at home the game after. Something has got to give.

37 points will see us safe, guaranteed.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:11 pm

I wonder if he's in the passenger seat of Bamfords car having a good cry ?

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:30 pm

If Pearson goes to Boro surely they are just swapping one nutter for another.

Dyche, whilst alone, will have such a smug smile on his face now AK has been binned

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:35 pm

It's being reported here (Norfolk) that Pearson wants the Norwich City job -

http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/norwich-ci ... _1_4933431" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:10 pm

No doubt we'll take it game by game and hope we can get the 6 or 7 points
we may need to ensure we stay up and hope that none of Hull, Boro' and /or Sunderland
suddenly start putting more than a few wins together.
Boro' will be hoping that a new manager can change their current form but they'll need results/wins against
Hull, Swansea and Bournemouth away and us at home to be in with much of a chance.

Hull look the most likely at present with 4 home games that will look very winnable
to them with 2 of them against Boro' and Sunderland.
If they manage that and pick up a few points away too then they'll hope to have a chance
of staying up and overtaking one or some of the teams above them.
If they can get up to 38/39 points (4 wins and 2/3 draws) then we,
unless one of the teams below us collapses, might require another 7 or 8 points.
Can't see Swansea, Palace or Leicester suddenly losing 4 or 5 on the trot.

One would hope that another 7 or 8 points is achievable but we really need to make sure that,
at the very least, we don't lose at Sunderland and/or Boro'
and can get a couple of wins at home as well. And stay relatively injury fee too.
And keep our goal difference better than those three.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:42 pm

Us and Hull will have a big say in whether the North East teams get relegated. If they fail to beat either of us it'll as good as put them down.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:58 pm

I don't by into this 37 point malarky...... we need 40. Soon as you mentally start saying 37, you'll get 35

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:04 pm

We don't need anywhere near 40.

35 will be easily enough.

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:57 pm

Please, please,please let it be McClaren ... he is a specialist in losing!

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:55 pm

i'm amazed he lasted this long. Will be fun to see who jumps into his seat. If it's Agnew until season end they've given up.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:24 pm

This season is an unusual season.
35 points will easily be enough this time round.
There are going to be a lot of drawn games between the bottom 6 teams, with games running out where they can pick up 3 pointers for a few of them.

It doesn't matter if Boro start to improve, it will be at the expense of teams around them.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:23 am

I bet at least one team in the bottom three beats 35 points.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:42 am

Ay...

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:14 pm

was just a matter of time but like a few others have said I wish it had been another month to be honest but one never knows.

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