Didi Hamann: No England player would get into the Germany team

[cricketfieldclarets]

Oliver Burke:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39344413" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Michael Mancienne:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... vin-keegan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Burke is not English. But the fact that we can only find two examples only highlights my point!

[cricketfieldclarets]

I think that the style of football in England is a major factor in the lack of 'world-class' English players.

Also the competitive cut-throat nature of the Premier League, with the demands for instant success, means that managers and coaches concentrate much more on who can they buy cheap from abroad to do the job NOW rather than developing and giving game time to young English prospects. The intensity and speed of Premier League football with it's emphasis on fast movement of the ball rather than the ball work of most continental football makes managers wary of giving untested individuals more than a few minutes gametime until little or nothing is at stake. The managers job is often on the line so one poor performance from a young player could see them dropped from the 1st team squad next week.

The managers jobs on the line isnt unique. In fact Italy and Spain go through far more managers.

[Hipper]

Burke is British and played in English football so he is relevant.

I wasn't trying to make any point (after all, Mancienne has gone backwards) but reading the Burke article suggests players are not 'over coached' in England; quite the reverse apparently.

I would guess it's the over competitive nature of children's football that leads to lack of technique.

I found the Germany-England game interesting because, whilst I agree that the Germans were generally better under pressure then we were, they had no-one like Kyle Walker who I thought was the most inventive attacker. In the second half, once the Germans upped their levels a bit they controlled the game and we offered little.