Shari`a Law

[Damo]

Hey that's unfair.
Damo's utter silence on several non-Muslim related crimes should not be viewed along side his vociferous outrage at a small number of Muslim related crimes.

I'm fairly sure Charlie was taking the p!ss with that comment.
Just read through both threads.
On the Jo Cox thread, everyone quite rightly condemned the actions of Mair. My view was well covered.
Interestingly though combat, I didn't see you on there saying Mair was being unfairly criticised.
I have absolutely nothing to add to the hooligan thread. I find the whole thing pathetic like most people do.
Interestingly again no comment from you telling everyone what tiny percent of Russians are hooligans.
Would you care to explain why please then I don't just consider you to me a massive hypocrite?

[Damo]

Oh for **** sake. No one blames you for not posting in it*. That's not how support and opposition works. Some views can reasonable be assumed without being said.


*Except me. I completely blame you because i'm a ****.

Hence the several comments I posted stating 'if my view hasn't been covered I will adress it'
Stop ranting and start reading

[CombatClaret]

Stop ranting and start reading

If only you read the articles you post.

Go on, defend your joke on the Canadian shooting while at the same time pretending to be appalled by all murder in the UK.

You are unbelievable, you can't even keep up with yourself let alone others.

[Damo]

I did find Damo's response to the Canadian Mosque shooting and the killing of six innocent Muslims.



Such deep empathy, your objections to such atrocity are clear and unequivocal.
There is clearly a big problem in Canada no one is prepared to talk about for fear of being called a racist.

So you joke about the killings of 6 Muslims by a white man in Canada while I assume you would object to the killing of four people in the UK by a Muslim?
Please try and worm you way out of this or ignore it like all your other false assertions you have made in this thread on Muslim crimes in the UK.

My view had been covered in the opening post

Senseless violence that does nothing to ease the tensions of the current social climate. Condolences to those affected both directly and indirectly.

[Damo]

If only you read the articles you post.

Go on, defend your joke on the Canadian shooting while at the same time pretending to be appalled by all murder in the UK.

You are unbelievable, you can't even keep up with yourself let alone others.

Now can you please explain why you get so angry when someone mentions FGM or honour killings. Then not comment on other horrible crimes?

[CombatClaret]

Now can you please explain why you get so angry when someone mentions FGM or honour killings. Then not comment on other horrible crimes?

Please review this thread and you will see all my responses both questions which you seem unable to follow.
In brief:
You have overblown the scale of honour crimes and FGM in the country with misleading or misunderstood headlines to support an agenda.

You are the one who seems overly preoccupied with a small majority of Muslim related crimes while I chose not to comment in support of opposition on any crimes. You mock the death of Muslims while vilifying thier crimes.

[CombatClaret]

My view had been covered in the opening post

No you added to it with a joke. Which contradicts your stance that you will not add to a topic if your view has been already voiced.

[Damo]

Please review this thread and you will see all my responses both questions which you seem unable to follow.
In brief:
You have overblown the scale of honour crimes and FGM in the country with misleading or misunderstood headlines to support an agenda.

You are the one who seems overly preoccupied with a small majority of Muslim related crimes while I chose not to comment in support of opposition on any crimes. You mock the death of Muslims while vilifying thier crimes.

OK, lets go back to the old part of this conversation.
1 honour killing or 1 instance of FGM is unacceptable.
Your argument that 'there has not been as many killings and mutilations as you implied' does not make honour killings and FGM ok.
I commented because I felt my angle had not been covered.
You clearly don't like anyone saying anything negative regarding islam or shari`a. Even on a topic as awful as murder and mutilation.
As for mocking the death of Muslims, don't be so pathetic. It takes some seriously warped twisting of words to consider what I said as mocking the death of anyone

[Damo]

You are the one who seems overly preoccupied with a small majority of Muslim related crimes while I chose not to comment in support of opposition on any crimes. You mock the death of Muslims while vilifying thier crimes.

Also, by your logic, I should really have commented on the many other threads regarding Muslim crimes that turn up on here and in the news daily.

[Wile E Coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Gu-CyE-NQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; you've all mispelt it, this is what it should be .

[Greenmile]

OK, lets go back to the old part of this conversation.
1 honour killing or 1 instance of FGM is unacceptable.
Your argument that 'there has not been as many killings and mutilations as you implied' does not make honour killings and FGM ok.
I commented because I felt my angle had not been covered...

You can't possibly believe that anyone was saying murder and mutilation are ok, though, can you? Saying they're not isn't really an angle that needs covering, I hope.

[ClaretMoffitt]

You posted the day after the Russian Hooligans thread on a topic mocking the left wing entitled "Punching Nazis".

Also several days either side of the Jo Cox murder.

But sure you were not active on the forum around those times.

I did find Damo's response to the Canadian Mosque shooting and the killing of six innocent Muslims.



Such deep empathy, your objections to such atrocity are clear and unequivocal.
There is clearly a big problem in Canada no one is prepared to talk about for fear of being called a racist.

So you joke about the killings of 6 Muslims by a white man in Canada while I assume you would object to the killing of four people in the UK by a Muslim?
Please try and worm you way out of this or ignore it like all your other false assertions you have made in this thread on Muslim crimes in the UK.

People did blame it on Trump though, don't remember seeing anyone blame brexit but I'm sure a few probably did out there somewhere.

What he said was not much different to the outpouring from many left wingers who's first concern after a devastation islamist terrorist attack is not for the victims, but the bad PR that it will give islam and the extra support it might give right wing parties.

[Greenmile]

Here's what Damo said earlier though

"I can't see a thread on any of these subjects or I would possibly contribute.
I would have the same stance as I do on this thread."

CombatClaret found an example which proves this to be a lie, but you're defending him on the basis that some imaginary "left-wingers" do the same thing when it's the other way round.

[mdd2]

Here's what Damo said earlier though

CombatClaret found an example which proves this to be a lie, but you're defending him on the basis that some imaginary "left-wingers" do the same thing when it's the other way round.

That has been the problem with Burnley for sometime-imaginary left wingers rather than fast tricky real ones. UTC

[ClaretMoffitt]

Here's what Damo said earlier though

"I can't see a thread on any of these subjects or I would possibly contribute.
I would have the same stance as I do on this thread."

CombatClaret found an example which proves this to be a lie, but you're defending him on the basis that some imaginary "left-wingers" do the same thing when it's the other way round.

It was months ago, perhaps he forgot? Do you remember every single thread you post in? I know I don't. Sometimes when i'm debating IT he will bring a post back on me that I made 2 or 3 weeks prior that I have no recollection what so ever even writing, let alone what thread it was in.

And "imaginary" lol.

[Damo]

Here's what Damo said earlier though

"I can't see a thread on any of these subjects or I would possibly contribute.
I would have the same stance as I do on this thread."

CombatClaret found an example which proves this to be a lie, but you're defending him on the basis that some imaginary "left-wingers" do the same thing when it's the other way round.

Your just being as silly as him now.
At the time those threads were live I didnt feel the need to contribute.
I've explained why.
I posted on this thread because, some people feel the need to defend what is going on solely because it's a problem with islam.
Just to clarify so you can't twist my words again.
When I say combat is defending these practices, I don't for one minute think he believes they are right and I'm not saying he has implied anything like that.
But saying 'it's not as big a deal as you make out' and 'you can't condemn this because you didn't condemn the Russian hooligans' is defending this problem.
People are afraid to discuss anything negative regarding islam because these tactics have been used for far too long to silence anyone who criticises any aspect of one certain religion.

[chorleyhere]

I know it's not specifically Shari'a law but hasn't this country already implemented halal meat restrictions for school meals and possibly in other catering institutions , maybe hospital food too. Someone with experience in the food industry maybe able to say more authoritatively how meat preparation has changed to cope with this?

[Damo]

I know it's not specifically Shari'a law but hasn't this country already implemented halal meat restrictions for school meals and possibly in other catering institutions , maybe hospital food too. Someone with experience in the food industry maybe able to say more authoritatively how meat preparation has changed to cope with this?

I'm sorry but I can't comment just incase I have commented on, or failed to comment on, other forms of meat preparation previously.
A couple of posters will be along shortly asking what business it is of yours

[chorleyhere]

Pardon Damo? and your post means what?

[CombatClaret]

Pardon Damo? and your post means what?

He is a bit flustered because he often contradicts his own statements and opinions. It's not you don't worry.

[cutsy123]

Can we close this thread. Sick of seeing the topic every time i log on. Shite like this shouldnt be discussed on a burnley fc forum

[Greenmile]

Your just being as silly as him now.
At the time those threads were live I didnt feel the need to contribute.
I've explained why.

But you did contribute to that thread, and you didn't "have the same stance as (you) do on this thread" - you made a flippant sarcastic remark about Trump and Brexit. It's almost like the murders in Canada weren't as big a deal to you because they were perpertrated on, and not by, Muslims.

I posted on this thread because, some people feel the need to defend what is going on solely because it's a problem with islam.
Just to clarify so you can't twist my words again.
When I say combat is defending these practices, I don't for one minute think he believes they are right and I'm not saying he has implied anything like that.
But saying 'it's not as big a deal as you make out' and 'you can't condemn this because you didn't condemn the Russian hooligans' is defending this problem.

It literally and statistically isn't as big a deal as you were making out. CombatClaret and IT have already dismantled the "statistics" you sought to provide. Equally, nobody says you can't condemn this because you didn't condemn the Russian hooligans, or even the murders in Canada, but when you claim you would have the same view on those things as you do on this, it's not unreasonable for someone to provide evidence that you're lying.

People are afraid to discuss anything negative regarding islam because these tactics have been used for far too long to silence anyone who criticises any aspect of one certain religion.

Again, the very existence of this thread, and several others like it, shows this point to be complete b*ll*cks. No-one is silencing you - some of us are pointing out you're talking nonsense, but that's not the same thing.

[Greenmile]

Can we close this thread. Sick of seeing the topic every time i log on. Shite like this shouldnt be discussed on a burnley fc forum

These tactics have been used for far too long to silence anyone who criticises any aspect of one certain religion.

[CombatClaret]

What he said was not much different to the outpouring from many left wingers who's first concern after a devastation islamist terrorist attack is not for the victims, but the bad PR that it will give islam and the extra support it might give right wing parties.

Lets imagine in the second comment on a thread on last weeks attack someone had posted
"Can I be the first to blame Paul Nuttalls and The Tories"
Lets imagine the response to that shall we..? Because that's what you are saying it's equivalent to?
Damo's comment was a flippant sarcastic remark and not any attempt at a rational critique.

"I wasn't active on this forum when those threads were posted."
"I can't see a thread on any of these subjects or I would possibly contribute."
"At the time those threads were live I didnt feel the need to contribute."

These can't all be right?

Let's also remember that the 'angle you felt had not been covered' was not really an angle at all. It was simply to post an article along with a false statement based on statistics you misunderstood.

[Damo]

But you did contribute to that thread, and you didn't "have the same stance as (you) do on this thread" - you made a flippant sarcastic remark about Trump and Brexit. It's almost like the murders in Canada weren't as big a deal to you because they were perpertrated on, and not by, Muslims.

How have you concluded that? That's hysterical even by your standards

It literally and statistically isn't as big a deal as you were making out. CombatClaret and IT have already dismantled the "statistics" you sought to provide. Equally, nobody says you can't condemn this because you didn't condemn the Russian hooligans, or even the murders in Canada, but when you claim you would have the same view on those things as you do on this, it's not unreasonable for someone to provide evidence that you're lying.

I did have the same view. It was disgusting. Just like FGM and honour killings. The fact it isn't carried out quite as often as I supposedly implied in this country doesn't make it any less disgusting. Combat is making a huge deal about the link I posted because it didn't break down the stats to a level he thought made these practices acceptable. I've explained why I probably didn't feel compelled to comment to the best of my memory.

Again, the very existence of this thread, and several others like it, shows this point to be complete b*ll*cks. No-one is silencing you - some of us are pointing out you're talking nonsense, but that's not the same thing.

No. The existance of this thread is because someone posted about shari`a.
It's continued for 4 pages because, going back to Charlie's earlier comment...
"Oh for **** sake. No one blames you for not posting in it*. That's not how support and opposition works. Some views can reasonable be assumed without being said"
There is support and opposition.
You and combat are still here telling me I'm wrong for finding something disgusting.
You do this by saying I lied about my views on other subjects. You say I didn't find other crimes to be wrong because I never mentioned it. And your implying I found the murder of Muslims in Canada to be 'not a big deal' because I made a comment about Trump and Brexit. Something that was a hot topic at the time.
I'm not going to continue to post the same comments over and over again as you try to find ways to say I'm wrong for finding these practices disgusting.
You never questioned anyone finding the Jo Cox murder disgusting. You didn't defend the stupidity of the hooligans. I can see why you are foaming at the mouth though on this subject though.
Have a good day

[Damo]

Lets imagine in the second comment on a thread on last weeks attack someone had posted
"Can I be the first to blame Paul Nuttalls and The Tories"
Lets imagine the response to that shall we..? Because that's what you are saying it's equivalent to?
Damo's comment was a flippant sarcastic remark and not any attempt at a rational critique.



These can't all be right?

Let's also remember that the 'angle you felt had not been covered' was not really an angle at all. It was simply to post an article along with a false statement based on statistics you misunderstood.

Also why didn't i comment on the guantanimo bay thread?
Also, I read a story in the Yorkshire post the other day about a paedophile ring in Huddersfield, I didn't start a thread on here so obviously, by your logic I support it.
Your argument falls down by the fact I chose to comment on a subject, regarding crimes commited ON muslims.
Your just upset because you consider my view a slight on islam

[CombatClaret]

You and combat are still here telling me I'm wrong for finding something disgusting.

That it is disgusting is the one and only thing you have been correct on however no one has said you are wrong for believing that.

It is the false statements, misrepresentation, missunderstanding, back tracks, U-Turns, hypocrisy, lack of research, bias and contradictions etc which you have permeated your argument with that I and others have taken issue with.