Why do so many supporters want Shane Long?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:41 am

He's scored 3 goals in 22 games this season and isn't renowned for being a regular scorer.

If we are to upgrade Vokes and Barnes then surely we need better than him.

claretjohn33505 · Post by **claretjohn33505** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:47 am

Pace?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:48 am

claretjohn33505 wrote:Pace?

We've got Gray for that.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:02 am

How many supporters do want Shane Long?

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:09 am

A few fans on here have said he would be a good signing. He wouldn't IMO. We have 3 strikers who struggle to score as it is. We don't need another. Always flatters to deceive for me and then once in a while produces a great performance with goals.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:16 am

Maybe they think that because we already have 3 of his international teammates that he'll fit straight in & already have that understanding.

For me Long is one of those players that seems to have his run of good games then you don't hear anything of him

Tinribs · Post by **Tinribs** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:16 am

Negredo would be a good signing.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:21 am

A useful player but not for me. We need someone that's going to be more clinical (as yesterday showed). Someone with pace would be nice, especially if it's someone that we can utilise out wide as well, but I don't see Long as the sort of player we need.

Just thinking of a striker, Negredo would be good but his wages would make it a no go and rightly so.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:23 am

I'd like him. He has pace, can stretch play, link play and run the channels. With regular starts, which I believe he'd get, he'd bring goals and experience.

For what it's worth...

Sam Vokes scored 14 goals in the 89 games he played between leaving Bournemouth and joining Burnley.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:27 am

Ah, just seen the one post on the 'Poacher' thread.

Enough to trigger Spijed's Pointless Question Tourette's

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:28 am

I think he'd be a decent option for us. This season many of his appearances have come from the bench.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:34 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:Ah, just seen the one post on the 'Poacher' thread.

Enough to trigger Spijed's Pointless Question Tourette's

Why is it a pointless question? If you don't like it, you don't have to answer it!

But then again, it's hard to find a thread where you don't post a sarcastic answer isn't it, considering it's all you do?

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:48 am

Shane Long is garbage.

The end.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:51 am

Spijed wrote:Why is it a pointless question? If you don't like it, you don't have to answer it!

But then again, it's hard to find a thread where you don't post a sarcastic answer isn't it, considering it's all you do?

I post less than three times a day, according to my profile. I think you need to look a bit harder.

Unless you are exaggerating again, like the subject of this particular thread. Hence why I commented on its point.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:55 am

Should be looking to do better, and younger, than Shane Long. How many players do we want from the same nothing international team ?

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:57 am

We don't want any more Irish as it might form a clique.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:12 am

Must admit I don`t get it at all. ALWAYS flatters to deceive, in my eyes. No better than Martin Paterson in his prime. The way we play away from home, apart from in Merseyside, makes it hard for ANY striker to shine. We`d need a Quinn/Phillips kinda partnership.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:14 am

Pstotto wrote:We don't want any more Irish as it might form a clique.

Too late we are already at the club .
Now as for Longy well pace is his number one thing that's for sure the only problem is that he is now getting older . Never going to be a 20 goals a season player but has a lot to offer , again as I have said before with other players he is a Dyche type of player who will give you everything .

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:23 am

Southampton paid Hull circa £14m for Long and he turned 30 this year

No value in paying that sort of money for anyone of that age

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:29 am

Decent player Long, but im not sure he's really what we need. Of the 3 proven but fringe strikers at Southampton, i'd rather have Rodriguez or Austin.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:33 am

Trees enuff, Tribesman and trees are crowd enuff.

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:40 am

claretspice wrote:Decent player Long, but im not sure he's really what we need. Of the 3 proven but fringe strikers at Southampton, i'd rather have Rodriguez or Austin.

No sure you can describe Austin as a fringe striker. He was their main striker and top scorer until he got injured.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:41 am

claretspice wrote:Decent player Long, but im not sure he's really what we need. Of the 3 proven but fringe strikers at Southampton, i'd rather have Rodriguez or Austin.

Never in a million years but I'd have Austin back in a heartbeat.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:52 am

He's a forward who can retain possession of the football. That's a start. Better footballer than our current three strikers. That's another positive. Faster than vokes. That's a bonus. Doesn't give unnecessary free kicks away. That'd help in retaining possession. With a run of games, he'd be a much better option than anything we have already.

Long is mentioned because of these things, and the fact he would fit the very effective current framework. Plus it's a possible. It's realistic.

Or we could just forego the steady building programme and go and get Suarez and messi?

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:56 am

bobinho wrote:He's a forward who can retain possession of the football. That's a start. Better footballer than our current three strikers. That's another positive. Faster than vokes. That's a bonus. Doesn't give unnecessary free kicks away. That'd help in retaining possession. With a run of games, he'd be a much better option than anything we have already.

Long is mentioned because of these things, and the fact he would fit the very effective current framework. Plus it's a possible. It's realistic.

Or we could just forego the steady building programme and go and get Suarez and messi?

There's a few things in there that i don't recognise about Shane Long. I don't think he's necessarily a better footballer than Barnes or Vokes, or that he retains possession better. I'd regard him as a hard working, fairly robust and surprisingly quick player who lacks a bit of composure in key moments.

But as i say, he's not the worst player we could be linked with by any means.

Redbeard · Post by **Redbeard** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:59 am

claretspice wrote:I'd rather have Rodriguez or Austin.

Or even perhaps both?

But Shane Long? - Not for me, thank you.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:03 am

It's all well and good naming players like Austin but we'd have no chance of signing him.

Redbeard · Post by **Redbeard** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:06 am

Personally, Taio, I was only dreaming of course.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:21 pm

Why do so many supporters want Shane Long..

1. He's better than what we've got. His record is poorer than he's ability deserves. Most of his appearances are from the bench

2. He's a realistic target, we won't be able to afford (or will refuse to pay the wages of) players like Austin, Negredo or other targets suggested.

3. He's a continuation of a strong Irish contigant that we've now got. It should lead to a sharper initgration to the group and results in a higher likelihood of him being retained in transfer windows.

He's a excellent player for me and he would be my number one realistic choice of striker in summer.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:23 pm

Id have him alongside a goalscorer. Offers more than goals.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:27 pm

Id have him alongside a goalscorer. Offers more than goals.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:30 pm

I'd have him over Barnes or Vokes in a heartbeat. He brings so much more than just goals.

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:31 pm

What can possibly go wrong with buying a non-goalscoring striker that relies on pace and is 30 years old?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:44 pm

The reason a few fans like me suggested him as a potential target are articulated above.

It's also about realistic signings and players who fit the way we play under Dyche.

Very easy to sit there and pour through statistics saying who we should not sign....it's a bit more complex than that in the real world....rather than start a thread saying why you think we should not sign Long come up with some realistic suggestions yourself - and then the rest of us can tear it apart based on a quick look on Wykepedia !

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:53 pm

DCWat wrote:A useful player but not for me. We need someone that's going to be more clinical (as yesterday showed). Someone with pace would be nice, especially if it's someone that we can utilise out wide as well, but I don't see Long as the sort of player we need.

Just thinking of a striker, Negredo would be good but his wages would make it a no go and rightly so.

Negredo is a good example of the type of player we should be looking at. Valencia are desperately trying to offload his wages and I don't think he's going to be able to demand silly wages if he's part of a relegated Boro team. He's a nuisance of a player, the type Dyche likes, but his footballing ability is well above Barnes. Negredo and Gray would be a seriously good front two. It won't happen I know, but it's the upgrade on Barnes that we need!

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:55 pm

What about the upgrade on vokes and gray?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:04 pm

jlup1980 wrote:Negredo is a good example of the type of player we should be looking at. Valencia are desperately trying to offload his wages and I don't think he's going to be able to demand silly wages if he's part of a relegated Boro team. He's a nuisance of a player, the type Dyche likes, but his footballing ability is well above Barnes. Negredo and Gray would be a seriously good front two. It won't happen I know, but it's the upgrade on Barnes that we need!

Of course he can demand silly wages given he's contracted to Valenica for a good while yet

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:07 pm

Do we know how much he's on at Valencia?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:08 pm

I thought in excess of £100k a week

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:09 pm

taio wrote:Of course he can demand silly wages given he's contracted to Valenica for a good while yet

He's contracted to a club that doesn't want him because they can't afford him. He'll have a decision to make this summer as there's not a hope in hell anyone will match 100k a week wages given his age and his goals return for Boro. As with many players, it'll come down to his desire to play the game versus the size of his bank balance!!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:22 pm

claretspice wrote:Decent player Long, but im not sure he's really what we need. Of the 3 proven but fringe strikers at Southampton, i'd rather have Rodriguez or Austin.

I doubt Austin would be considered fringe. if fit he'd play. Jay Rod hasn't played regular football now for three years.

I'm not convinced of Long although one of our travelling group considers him almost to be the best things since slided bread. He's bloody quick, that's for sure.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:24 pm

It's looking increasingly likely that Boro are down. Does this present an opportunity to go in for Patrick Bamford?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:39 pm

I'd rather bring Jay Rodriguez home.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:09 pm

if we are looking at stats only then surely the question should be "Why don't supporters want Messi"

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:16 am

Bring Back Jay. I mean Ings. I mean Austin. I mean Fletcher. I mean Blake. I mean... none of them!

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:33 am

IanMcL wrote:I'd rather bring Jay Rodriguez home.

I met a Soton fan in Hua Hin. He said Jay Rod was nothing like the player he had been pre-injury.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:34 am

I wouldn't say that there's so many people are yearning to sign Shaun long he'd obviously be a upgrade to what we currently have & any upgrade to a continually improving team is welcome. Maybe I'm wrong & people do want him.I haven't carried out a survey on it. I don't lie awake at night thinking about the bloke.