Flight path over Burnley

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:05 pm

Or are we being invaded?

I keep hearing and seeing a lot of low flying planes passing over, more so than usual and lower than usual.

Are we now beneath a new route to Manchester / Leeds / Liverpool now we are a Northern, Premier League town, Powerhouse?

paulus the woodgnome · Post by **paulus the woodgnome** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:07 pm

Perhaps Grosicki is trying to line up his next move.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:17 pm

Ive noticed this. There is always one about 1/1-30 am. The loud ******

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:19 pm

Dyched wrote:Ive noticed this. There is always one about 1/1-30 am. The loud ******

Thats the bugger! Just had another around 1030.

Its the germans. or russians. or koreans.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:20 pm

Im sure theres a website where you can look up whats flying overhead

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:29 pm

Airmail, don't panic.

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:51 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Or are we being invaded?

I keep hearing and seeing a lot of low flying planes passing over, more so than usual and lower than usual.

Are we now beneath a new route to Manchester / Leeds / Liverpool now we are a Northern, Premier League town, Powerhouse?

flightradar24 is the app to see flights.

The lowest plane at present seems to be the oslo to Manchester flight although there are a lot who drop down early heading for Leeds Bradford.

These flights tend to be about 8000 feet.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:10 am

Isnt Leeds Bradford the highest airport in the UK?

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:17 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Isnt Leeds Bradford the highest airport in the UK?

The airport is also the highest in England at an elevation of 681 ft (208 m)

Above according to Wiki.but I suspect it is the highest in the UK as you state..

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:28 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Airmail, don't panic.

Did you just assume air's gender?

mikeS · Post by **mikeS** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:13 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Isnt Leeds Bradford the highest airport in the UK?

And the runway is cobbled

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:28 am

They put bread out for them in Blackburn

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:33 am

Whenever I am flying over England I try to work out where I am by spotting local football grounds. The other week I flew into Manchester from Copenhagen and was peering out of the window when I saw a very familiar sight below...

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:14 am

kaptin1 wrote:Whenever I am flying over England I try to work out where I am by spotting local football grounds. The other week I flew into Manchester from Copenhagen and was peering out of the window when I saw a very familiar sight below...

The ball in Blackburn's net?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:17 am

mikeS wrote:And the runway is cobbled

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:24 am

Is that what it was ? I was on the bog and heard this deep rumble, and thought, I
must get that seen to.

dushanbe · Post by **dushanbe** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:33 am

There is a waypoint beacon over the Long Causeway. Periodically, flight paths are altered to avoid one area getting all the traffic and this beacon comes into use - presumably aircraft flying into Manchester and Leeds suddenly appear more frequently in our skies. Thats what I was once informed by an ATC and the beacon is visible on http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/aviat ... ields/vor/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; if you click on the symbol next to Leeds, its VOR POL.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:19 am

They put bread out in Blackburn for um classic

The Quattro · Post by **The Quattro** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:17 pm

Airports have a number of standard terminal arrival routes (STARs), which then makes it easier to control arrivals as they're following set routes until directed by air traffic control to line up with the runway.

One of these STARS is via ROSUN, which is a waypoint on the hills overlooking Rossendale (hence the name) and arrivals from the north (where they pass over Settle or the Lakes) and east (where they route through the Pole Hill VOR navigation aid) will more often than not pass over Burnley.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:22 pm

next time you hear it have a look and see if it appears on here (if it's civil it will appear, if it's military then it wont)

https://www.flightradar24.com/

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:13 pm

Don't suppose anyone saw the small plane performing loops and other showing off stuff at the weekend, over Laneshawbridge?

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BFCBaz · Post by **BFCBaz** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:15 pm

Yep. Seen it several times in the last few months, west of Burnley (I think). Makes a noise like an angry hornet. I thought I may be practising for displays. Very impressive.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:32 pm

Flew from Dublin to Manchester and back over easter - both times we routed over Burnley - which isn't normally the case. Usually out over the moors towards the TV tower, then turn in from there.

yatesybase · Post by **yatesybase** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:51 pm

Nearby beacons

Burni - Burnley is a arrival pattern for Manchester
Rosin - Rossendale is a arrival pattern for Manchester
Normally traffic from the North & East route this way around a flight level of 8,000ft inbound Manchesters 23R or 05R runways.

Pole Hill (located in Tod) is a ADF beacon (Automatic direction finder) beacon and is used a beacon for traffic passing from Arrival & departure points such as Frankfurt,Munich,Amsterdam heading Westbound or Eastbound from the states ,also west bound traffic at flight level a 19,000ft to 40,000ft also from Heathrow & Gatwick heading Westbound via Scotland using Pole hill as a ADF.

Normally Trent-Pole hill - Talla flights from the south
Normally Pole hill - Wallasey - or Isle o Man flights from the east
Normally Isle o man - Pole hill - Ottringham flights from the west

Nelsa- Is a departure pattern from Leeds/Bradford
Normally Nelsa- MCT (Manchester) Trent (Stoke on Trent ) for traffic departing south bound from Leeds/Bradford.

You will also see lots of light movements transmitting from Blackpool to Leeds and a extra EA300 (stunt plane) which a local lad owns normally flying over Burnley.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:02 pm

Sorry be to be pedantic but Pole Hill (POL) is a VOR-DME (VHF Omnidirectional Radio beacon with Distance Measuring Equipment 112.1 MHz) not an ADF or NDB (Non-Directional Beacon).

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:27 pm

I live under the flight path for Pearson airport in Toronto. You simply get used to it and don't notice it after awhile.

cheeseon · Post by **cheeseon** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:33 pm

yatesybase wrote:Nearby beacons

Burni - Burnley is a arrival pattern for Manchester
Rosin - Rossendale is a arrival pattern for Manchester
Normally traffic from the North & East route this way around a flight level of 8,000ft inbound Manchesters 23R or 05R runways.

Pole Hill (located in Tod) is a ADF beacon (Automatic direction finder) beacon and is used a beacon for traffic passing from Arrival & departure points such as Frankfurt,Munich,Amsterdam heading Westbound or Eastbound from the states ,also west bound traffic at flight level a 19,000ft to 40,000ft also from Heathrow & Gatwick heading Westbound via Scotland using Pole hill as a ADF.

Normally Trent-Pole hill - Talla flights from the south
Normally Pole hill - Wallasey - or Isle o Man flights from the east
Normally Isle o man - Pole hill - Ottringham flights from the west

Nelsa- Is a departure pattern from Leeds/Bradford
Normally Nelsa- MCT (Manchester) Trent (Stoke on Trent ) for traffic departing south bound from Leeds/Bradford.

You will also see lots of light movements transmitting from Blackpool to Leeds and a extra EA300 (stunt plane) which a local lad owns normally flying over Burnley.

Where did you get this from?

Gerry Hattrick · Post by **Gerry Hattrick** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:58 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:next time you hear it have a look and see if it appears on here (if it's civil it will appear, if it's military then it wont)

https://www.flightradar24.com/

Most of 'em do on this one though:-
https://www.adsbexchange.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Attach shows screenshot taken a few minutes ago

Lat/Long approx 53.7/-2.23 to centre map on Burnley

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:23 pm

cheeseon wrote:Where did you get this from?

Have a read through;

http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/comm ... perations/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:30 pm

I think Burnley missed being Lockerbie by 9 minutes. I was in the Mechanics that night and I still have fantasies about returning home to see the street completely gone.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:38 am

Pstotto wrote:I think Burnley missed being Lockerbie by 9 minutes. I was in the Mechanics that night and I still have fantasies about returning home to see the street completely gone.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:07 am

Gerry Hattrick wrote:Most of 'em do on this one though:-
https://www.adsbexchange.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Attach shows screenshot taken a few minutes ago

Lat/Long approx 53.7/-2.23 to centre map on Burnley

yep, there was a reason I didn't link adsb

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:07 am

cheeseon wrote:Where did you get this from?

He knows his stuff ! #knowledge

ChrisG · Post by **ChrisG** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:09 pm

Gerry Hattrick wrote:Most of 'em do on this one though:-
https://www.adsbexchange.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Attach shows screenshot taken a few minutes ago

Lat/Long approx 53.7/-2.23 to centre map on Burnley

Thanks for this, I've just heard a low flyign plane go over Barlick and now know it was a Hawk.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:56 am

Do the raf jets still go over barlick often?

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:38 pm

Too bad you couldn't get the RAF jets to straife Blackbirn.

ChrisG · Post by **ChrisG** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:52 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Do the raf jets still go over barlick often?

Sorry only just seen this.

Yes, normally every week or so at least I'd say, especially over the summer.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:12 am

ChrisG wrote:Sorry only just seen this.

Yes, normally every week or so at least I'd say, especially over the summer.

Any chance you could get them to drop some ordnance while they are passing

ChrisG · Post by **ChrisG** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:14 am

As long as they miss the Barlick Tap and my house.

Jel · Post by **Jel** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:50 am

I've just looked at one flying over Colne and apparently it's going from Edinburgh to Glasgow!
Is it lost?

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:53 am

Sounds like you do bar lick, Chris. Well there's nowt else to do round there, is there?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:57 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Isnt Leeds Bradford the highest airport in the UK?

The Enclosure wrote:The airport is also the highest in England at an elevation of 681 ft (208 m)

I dare say, if it's the highest in the UK it will also be the highest in England

ChrisG · Post by **ChrisG** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:07 pm

Pstotto wrote:Sounds like you do bar lick, Chris. Well there's nowt else to do round there, is there?

Bar winding up the natives, not really.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:01 pm

ChrisG wrote:Sorry only just seen this.

Yes, normally every week or so at least I'd say, especially over the summer.

Used to love watching t/ listening to them as a kid!

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:13 pm

Im expecting air mail over kelbrook any time soon.

Bfc · Post by **Bfc** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:32 pm

Re the RAF flying over Barnoldswick, I think they flew from Lincolnshire and headed to the Ribble Cement works chimney at Clitheroe, where they turned and then headed back to base. I believe the terrain was supposedly similar to an area in Russia.
I worked for British Gas 20 years ago and daily had to work between Colne and Barnoldswick. One sunny day driving into Earby, I heard a loud noise and flying what I thought was low, very close to my view, was a big odd shaped black plane. I was completely distracted from my driving and pulled over. Some will know better than me, but I think it was a Stealth Bomber type. Ive never seen another.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:46 pm

The plane you mentioned was pretty regular appeared out of nowhere just above the rooftops..like it was about to land. one flew over kelbrook recently heading that way.......

ThinLizzy · Post by **ThinLizzy** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:26 am

Starting to regret reading this thread. I found myself tracking a US military plane flying over Ireland last night and watched it all the way to north east of Cheltenham. Quite fascinating to see all these planes. Was a bit weird seeing a plane from Greece over Liverpool which was going to Luton airport though.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:37 pm

Oooo Thanks for the ADSB exchange website - I've never seen it before.

Got it set to Military filter and have just had my first identification which didnt show up on FR24 - it was an Italian C30. Doesn't half make a hum through the house even though its at 27,000 feet!

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:47 pm

Pstotto wrote:I think Burnley missed being Lockerbie by 9 minutes. I was in the Mechanics that night and I still have fantasies about returning home to see the street completely gone.

My cousin drove my Mum through Lockerbie on their way to Perthshire a few short hours before the disaster.
A near miss in the grand scheme of things.