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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:15 pm

So who does that belong to ? What stand ? Row ? You'll be there v. United ?
It's taken you 24 hours to find it ? So, so lame.
Proves nowt, no details, a desperate effort. You poor, inadequate sod. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by KRBFC » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:21 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:So who does that belong to ? What stand ? Row ? You'll be there v. United ?
It's taken you 24 hours to find it ? So, so lame.
Proves nowt, no details, a desperate effort. You poor, inadequate sod. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I did say "when I get home". I forgot all about it until I saw the post near the top of the forum again. You were always going to come up with some more bullsh** though, it was never going to be enough. You are not a Burnley fan and I don't give a f**k what your mates season ticket says.... Hows that one for ya.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:28 pm

Eh ? You asked for proof, it's even got details of my seat. You haven't even got the balls to do that. As pathetic as always.

So, go on then, you soft git, tell us all whereabouts you'll be sitting v. United - you know :lol: just like you have all season..............you won't because you can't. I think we've all a pretty good idea where that card came from............ :oops: As I said, so, so lame, really desperate stuff.

Can't wait for your latest backtrack on this one.
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by KRBFC » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:43 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:Eh ? You asked for proof, it's even got details of my seat. You haven't even got the balls to do that. As pathetic as always.

So, go on then, you soft git, tell us all whereabouts you'll be sitting v. United - you know :lol: just like you have all season..............you won't because you can't. I think we've all a pretty good idea where that card came from............ :oops: As I said, so, so lame, really desperate stuff.

Can't wait for your latest backtrack on this one.
Where did that card come from then? Details of the seat proves it's yours? Hahahahaha yeah course it does. Anyway, iv posted the photo, accept it or don't, I don't give a toss and have no interest in arguing with you over who attends/who doesn't like kids. You must have the brain of a 12 year old with your pathetic childlike outbursts, its hilarious to read and watch you capitulate and breakdown so keep going, I will keep pushing the buttons if you keep boring me.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Cooperclaret » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:47 pm

Give it up you loon. You are back tracking more than your defence in league 1 next season.

I'll give it to you though you do certainly like the p iss being taken out of you !

It's a football forum by the way
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Tall Paul » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:04 pm

KRBFC wrote::lol:
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:05 pm

So KBRFC you daren't show any details for your alleged seat on the Turf this season, none at all ? What a coward.
You reckon my details aren't correct ? You have my permission (data protection and all that crap) to ask CT to confirm my partly-obscured name against his Upthe clarets records if you like..
I've nothing to hide, you, however, post the front of any old ST card which could belong OR 'have belonged to anybody.
A pitiful and shameful stunt to pull, quite frankly, it just shows, again, what a desperately inadequate little creep you are.
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by bartons baggage » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:27 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:So KBRFC you daren't show any details for your alleged seat on the Turf this season, none at all ? What a coward.
You reckon my details aren't correct ? You have my permission (data protection and all that crap) to ask CT to confirm my partly-obscured name against his Upthe clarets records if you like..
I've nothing to hide, you, however, post the front of any old ST card which could belong OR 'have belonged to anybody.
A pitiful and shameful stunt to pull, quite frankly, it just shows, again, what a desperately inadequate little creep you are.
This is way better than the sh1te political threads. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by KRBFC » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:38 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:So KBRFC you daren't show any details for your alleged seat on the Turf this season, none at all ? What a coward.
You reckon my details aren't correct ? You have my permission (data protection and all that crap) to ask CT to confirm my partly-obscured name against his Upthe clarets records if you like..
I've nothing to hide, you, however, post the front of any old ST card which could belong OR 'have belonged to anybody.
A pitiful and shameful stunt to pull, quite frankly, it just shows, again, what a desperately inadequate little creep you are.
And the fact you're still rambling on shows what a weird childish obsessed moron you are :lol: :lol:

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by bartons baggage » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:43 pm

To be fair he is doing a good job on making you look like a moron KRBFC. :D

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:08 pm

Cheers, lads, it's not too difficult a task, though, is it ?
Anyway, the sad act will have to put his soiled tissues under his bed and find somebody else to fantasise over for the next few hours, I'm watching Leicester, I hope, get well and truly stuffed.
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Cooperclaret » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:22 pm

It's my shift now Eddie :D

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by KRBFC » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:25 pm

bartons baggage wrote:To be fair he is doing a good job on making you look like a moron KRBFC. :D
Of course he is, he talks in riddles. Begs to meet then doesn't show up, asks me to post my ticket so I do then the old fart still mouths off. Keep dick riding him though hahahhaha how does he taste?

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by bartons baggage » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:39 pm

KRBFC wrote:Of course he is, he talks in riddles. Begs to meet then doesn't show up, asks me to post my ticket so I do then the old fart still mouths off. Keep dick riding him though hahahhaha how does he taste?
Stupid and homophobic,^^^^^^^^^^that says more about you than anything i could write. :lol:
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:50 pm

Nice to see KBRFC has reverted to type and oh look, there's the old "doesn't show up" ********.....we've not seen that for well over twelve hours now.

Well, here's another - why not turn the card over partly covering some of the names etc....? You've shown the front of a card, that's all. :lol:

What's up, KBRFC, scared somebody will recognise the name as not being yours ? Maybe someone's name who is/was close to you instead ? :oops:

I guess we'll never know but, tbh, we don't need to. Your hysterical filth in the post above gives your weakness and panic away.

I'll not need to ask again because you're well known for being a lying coward but, go on, try and surprise us.

Enjoy the game on Sunday.........wherever you're sitting. :lol:

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:13 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:Nice to see KBRFC has reverted to type and oh look, there's the old "doesn't show up" ********.....we've not seen that for well over twelve hours now.

Well, here's another - why not turn the card over partly covering some of the names etc....? You've shown the front of a card, that's all. :lol:

What's up, KBRFC, scared somebody will recognise the name as not being yours ? Maybe someone's name who is/was close to you instead ? :oops:

I guess we'll never know but, tbh, we don't need to. Your hysterical filth in the post above gives your weakness and panic away.

I'll not need to ask again because you're well known for being a lying coward but, go on, try and surprise us.

Enjoy the game on Sunday.........wherever you're sitting. :lol:
What does it matter if you see my name? I could show you the name on the card, doesn't matter you would just say its not my name.

How old are you? You're older than my dad and you're breaking down on a football forum seeking an argument. :lol: Its honestly pathetic and embarrassing. Do you not have grandkids to look after? I don't know why you're so intent on going round and round in circles despite me telling you I have no interest in doing so.

You don't think I'm a Burnley fan but your opinion means f**k all to me, I have tried twice to prove you wrong but nothing will be good enough. I could meet you at a game several times and you would still come on here mouthing off about how I'm not a fan just to cause petty boring arguments. I refuse to keep going round in circles with you, so please stop trying to make me.


If you want to keep acting like a child then ill ramp it up and really make you go insane. I'll have you stuck in a rat trap every night, just remember this whole forum revolves around me. I'm the main topic of conversation, watch views peak when I comment on topics. Deny it all you want, I have you in the palm of my hand, you're a puppet and I control your emotions. I can make you snap and cry at the press of a button.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by cloughyclaret » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:21 am

Either meet up or stop dick waving. Both of you.
I just want to read what abc says, You're ruining it.
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Lord Beamish » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:29 am

I reckon Evensteadiereddie should bring the condoms, KRBFC should bring the KY.
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Roosterbooster » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:30 am

Tall Paul wrote:No, the answer is simply variance. We play pretty much the same way at home as we do away.

All teams achieve better results in home games, it's merely down to the way the fine margins have gone that the difference seems so pronounced in our case. The human mind creates patterns that aren't there.
Variance might explain slight variations, but it doesn't explain the statistically significant difference between points accrued at home vs away, even taking into account the cofounding factor that you would expect to pick up more points at home anyway. This pattern isn't an illusion, it is a statistical fact.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:32 am

KRBFC wrote:What does it matter if you see my name? I could show you the name on the card, doesn't matter you would just say its not my name.

I reckon that he'd believe you if the name on the card is Wayne Kerr.
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by bartons baggage » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:30 am

KRBFC wrote:

If you want to keep acting like a child then ill ramp it up and really make you go insane. I'll have you stuck in a rat trap every night, just remember this whole forum revolves around me. I'm the main topic of conversation, watch views peak when I comment on topics. Deny it all you want, I have you in the palm of my hand, you're a puppet and I control your emotions. I can make you snap and cry at the press of a button.
You show the classic traits of a sociopath. :lol:
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:25 am

Roosterbooster wrote:Variance might explain slight variations, but it doesn't explain the statistically significant difference between points accrued at home vs away, even taking into account the cofounding factor that you would expect to pick up more points at home anyway. This pattern isn't an illusion, it is a statistical fact.
Yes it does.

While you are right that it's a fact we haven't won an away game, the sample size of 17 games is too small to draw any conclusions.

We could easily have won one or two of those 17 games and lost a couple of home games and we'd have the same number of points and nobody would mention the away form.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by ablueclaret » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:56 am

We have never looked like dominating away from home, not even for long periods of a game, we just aren't set -up to compete away from home it is as simple as that.
Remember the same statistical analysis applies to everybody else, what matters is the results we get and we've never looked convincing on the road.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:03 am

ablueclaret wrote:We have never looked like dominating away from home, not even for long periods of a game, we just aren't set -up to compete away from home it is as simple as that.
Remember the same statistical analysis applies to everybody else, what matters is the results we get and we've never looked convincing on the road.
We've never looked like dominating at home either.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by evensteadiereddie » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:00 am

From KBRFC

"If you want to keep acting like a child then ill ramp it up and really make you go insane. I'll have you stuck in a rat trap every night, just remember this whole forum revolves around me. I'm the main topic of conversation, watch views peak when I comment on topics. Deny it all you want, I have you in the palm of my hand, you're a puppet and I control your emotions. I can make you snap and cry at the press of a button."

Wow, just wow ! Are you a Dalek in disguise ? Bloody hell, if folks on here giving you stick hurts so much, you really do need help. Weak as well as thick. :o

And we thought Saxo had mental issues - it must be a combination of your psychosis, ale and drugs.......................


So, in spite of all your ahem, supreme power, :lol: you ARE frightened that folks will recognise that the card once belonged to someone else and no, you won't be at the Turf on Sunday as usual....a huge shock to us all, I have to say.

Exterminate ! Exterminate ! :lol: What a ponce.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by ablueclaret » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:08 am

I think you two have got trapped in your own tautology, perhaps you deserve your own thread, scrapers.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:10 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:From KBRFC

"If you want to keep acting like a child then ill ramp it up and really make you go insane. I'll have you stuck in a rat trap every night, just remember this whole forum revolves around me. I'm the main topic of conversation, watch views peak when I comment on topics. Deny it all you want, I have you in the palm of my hand, you're a puppet and I control your emotions. I can make you snap and cry at the press of a button."

Wow, just wow ! Are you a Dalek in disguise ? Bloody hell, if folks on here giving you stick hurts so much, you really do need help. Weak as well as thick. :o

And we thought Saxo had mental issues - it must be a combination of your psychosis, ale and drugs.......................


So, in spite of all your ahem, supreme power, :lol: you ARE frightened that folks will recognise that the card once belonged to someone else and no, you won't be at the Turf on Sunday as usual....a huge shock to us all, I have to say.

Exterminate ! Exterminate ! :lol: What a ponce.
Giving me stick, hurts? Wtf are you talking about.... Iv told you, its boring and childish and I have better things to be doing. Of course the old "drugs and ale" repetitive line despite me telling you I don't drink multiple times. Once belonged to someone else? You mean my Grandad who hasn't been on since it changed from a book of tickets to the card system? (CT can confirm)

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by evensteadiereddie » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:27 am

For someone "with better things to do", you don't half spend a lot of time on here making a cock of yourself, issuing threats, ranting incoherently and then, ultimately, quietly backing down.

So, show some proof, then, instead of hiding. I'll not be upset if you prove you're a legit - however stupid - BFC fan. The more the merrier. Your opinion re Dyche leaving is scarcely credible but each to their own, I suppose, although your hysterical tantrums do suggest other issues.

You'll be there on Sunday, being a ST holder, right ?

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by ablueclaret » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:38 am

This is a thread I wished I hadn't started, nothing is more seemly than two grown men trading powder puffs at one another.
We are all Burnley fans on here it is not a virility contest.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Roosterbooster » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:39 am

Tall Paul wrote:Yes it does.

While you are right that it's a fact we haven't won an away game, the sample size of 17 games is too small to draw any conclusions.

We could easily have won one or two of those 17 games and lost a couple of home games and we'd have the same number of points and nobody would mention the away form.
The statistical facts are the results. Statistical tests take into account potential variances, and look at results in the context of the sample size to ascertain if the sets of results show a statistically significant difference. A difference in results does not automatically mean this is significant, as you say, it comes down to fine margins, and we could have easily won 2 more away and lost 2 more at home. The tests account for this. They tell you what the odds are that this difference has occurred by chance. To avoid the effect of variances creating non existent conclusions, a statistically significant difference is considered to be one that, at most, has only a 5% chance of it occurring through nothing other than fluke. Or 1 in 20. The statistical test done comparing our home and away results, even taking into account the consistently measurable confounder that ALL teams perform better at home than away, is a 1 in 5000 result. The chance that our home results are only different to our away results because of chance or bad luck is 1 in 5000. To get that level of significance in, as you say, such a small sample size is nothing short of miraculous!

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by claretdom » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:39 am

ablueclaret wrote:This is another thread I wish I hadn't started.

Agreed
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:03 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:For someone "with better things to do", you don't half spend a lot of time on here making a cock of yourself, issuing threats, ranting incoherently and then, ultimately, quietly backing down.

So, show some proof, then, instead of hiding. I'll not be upset if you prove you're a legit - however stupid - BFC fan. The more the merrier. Your opinion re Dyche leaving is scarcely credible but each to their own, I suppose, although your hysterical tantrums do suggest other issues.

You'll be there on Sunday, being a ST holder, right ?
What is proof? Me giving away my full name and Clarets number? You have no idea what my name is, so the name on the card wouldn't do anything. I have nothing else to prove, if you don't think I'm a Burnley fan, fair enough that's your opinion that either way I couldn't give a **** about. I don't know why you would want to keep going round and round in circles on here, you're an old man, probably with Grand kids. Act your age its embarrassing. The worlds gone mad. I'm making a man older than my Dad, cry on a football forum :lol: Hilarious. Anyway, I'm done arguing with you, put me on your foe list and ill do the same. I'm bored of the repetitive crap.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Lord Beamish » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:11 am

KRBFC wrote:What is proof? Me giving away my full name and Clarets number? You have no idea what my name is, so the name on the card wouldn't do anything. I have nothing else to prove, if you don't think I'm a Burnley fan, fair enough that's your opinion that either way I couldn't give a **** about. I don't know why you would want to keep going round and round in circles on here, you're an old man, probably with Grand kids. Act your age its embarrassing. The worlds gone mad. I'm making a man older than my Dad, cry on a football forum :lol: Hilarious. Anyway, I'm done arguing with you, put me on your foe list and ill do the same. I'm bored of the repetitive crap.
Was your bottom lip trembling as you got to the end of that prolix screed?(In the true spirit of tautology).
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:13 am

Roosterbooster wrote:The statistical facts are the results. Statistical tests take into account potential variances, and look at results in the context of the sample size to ascertain if the sets of results show a statistically significant difference. A difference in results does not automatically mean this is significant, as you say, it comes down to fine margins, and we could have easily won 2 more away and lost 2 more at home. The tests account for this. They tell you what the odds are that this difference has occurred by chance. To avoid the effect of variances creating non existent conclusions, a statistically significant difference is considered to be one that, at most, has only a 5% chance of it occurring through nothing other than fluke. Or 1 in 20. The statistical test done comparing our home and away results, even taking into account the consistently measurable confounder that ALL teams perform better at home than away, is a 1 in 5000 result. The chance that our home results are only different to our away results because of chance or bad luck is 1 in 5000. To get that level of significance in, as you say, such a small sample size is nothing short of miraculous!
We seem to have a misunderstanding.

I'm not saying that the only reason our home results are better than the away results is variance, I'm saying that variance is the reason the difference is so pronounced.

As I said, because of the small sample size, one or two results go the other way and the away form isn't a concern.

Of course it isn't an illusion that we are better at home than we are away - pretty much every team is, but it is an illusion that we are not capable of winning away from home.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by evensteadiereddie » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:29 am

Oh, bless you, KBRFC, you knuckle-dragging buffoon. We can feel your pain in #232, Mind you, it takes real guts to run to the foe list instead of putting up a part name that I wouldn't recognise but others might. You might have to foe Tall Paul and cooper who also showed you up for the soft and muddled-up get you are. Just a thought. Oh and a few others.

But, to be fair, I did tell you to put up or shut the **** up, it seems like you've chosen the latter. Seems like not all the chickens are Venkys'.

Even CT, who doesn't normally get involved, commented on your grandad's likely thoughts regarding your Sean Dyche out ******** on here..enough said. ;)

By all means retire from the fray, you're making the same basic errors that Saxo did in his death throes on this board. It's probably just as well.

So we can take it you WON'T be there on Sunday.... :lol: Never mind, we'll give 'em a shout for you !
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:41 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:Oh, bless you, KBRFC, you knuckle-dragging buffoon. We can feel your pain in #232, Mind you, it takes real guts to run to the foe list instead of putting up a part name that I wouldn't recognise but others might. You might have to foe Tall Paul and cooper who also showed you up for the soft and muddled-up get you are. Just a thought. Oh and a few others.

Even CT, who doesn't normally get involved, commented on your grandad's likely thoughts regarding your Sean Dyche out ******** on here..enough said. ;)

By all means retire from the fray, you're making the same basic errors that Saxo did in his death throes on this board. It's probably just as well.

So we can take it you WON'T be there on Sunday.... :lol: Never mind, we'll give 'em a shout for you !
So I say I'll be there and you respond with "so we take it you wont be there" whatever I cba arguing with you ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ I'm not sure how me having better things to be doing than arguing with you on here makes me soft :lol: But whatever, we'll settle it here..... I don't think you're a Burnley fan regardless of what your mates name says on the card and you don't think I am, Nobody cares, THE END

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by evensteadiereddie » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:43 am

So you won't be there on Sunday, Mr. Dalek ? :lol:

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by dsr » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:48 am

Roosterbooster wrote:The statistical facts are the results. Statistical tests take into account potential variances, and look at results in the context of the sample size to ascertain if the sets of results show a statistically significant difference. A difference in results does not automatically mean this is significant, as you say, it comes down to fine margins, and we could have easily won 2 more away and lost 2 more at home. The tests account for this. They tell you what the odds are that this difference has occurred by chance. To avoid the effect of variances creating non existent conclusions, a statistically significant difference is considered to be one that, at most, has only a 5% chance of it occurring through nothing other than fluke. Or 1 in 20. The statistical test done comparing our home and away results, even taking into account the consistently measurable confounder that ALL teams perform better at home than away, is a 1 in 5000 result. The chance that our home results are only different to our away results because of chance or bad luck is 1 in 5000. To get that level of significance in, as you say, such a small sample size is nothing short of miraculous!
Where does 1 in 5000 come from? What was the exact figure, and how did you get there?

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Roosterbooster » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:54 am

dsr wrote:Where does 1 in 5000 come from? What was the exact figure, and how did you get there?
Simple unpaired t-test, giving away results a weighting of 1.64 (on average in PL this season, points scored at home are 1.64 times higher than points scored away)

P-value = 0.0002 (or 1 in 5000)

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by evensteadiereddie » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:00 am

Just in case you're also lying about not being bothered anymore, KBRFC. Enjoy and listen to your counsellor(s), there's a good lad. They really can help you. Perhaps.
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by ablueclaret » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:12 am

two Jack Russell's fighting over a paper bag.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Guich » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:17 am

Who do you think is the weaker leader ABC? Theresa May or Sean Dyche? Genuine question.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by evensteadiereddie » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:20 am

ablueclaret wrote:two Jack Russell's fighting over a paper bag.

Well, you'd know all about that abc. No apostrophe in Russells by the way.
Anyway, it looks as though he's finally done one so we're sorted.
Roll on, Sunday.
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by ablueclaret » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:21 am

Sean Dyche is the stronger personality, but he's so inflexible, but I'd prefer him to May any day, you just can't trust her, she sways with the wind.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by ablueclaret » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:21 am

You'll find victory very pyrrhic Eddie.

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by dsr » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:47 am

Roosterbooster wrote:Simple unpaired t-test, giving away results a weighting of 1.64 (on average in PL this season, points scored at home are 1.64 times higher than points scored away)

P-value = 0.0002 (or 1 in 5000)
I doubt that test works. For one thing, the sample results of Burnley's matches don't in any way approximate to a normal distribution, if you're comparing away results with home results. You can use a t-test to establish whether there is a home advantage over the division as a whole, which I'm sure there is; but it isn't designed to look at the outliers to determine whether they're flukes or natural variation.

Given 36 points total, what range of home-away splits would put us in the 95% range?

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:31 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:Simple unpaired t-test, giving away results a weighting of 1.64 (on average in PL this season, points scored at home are 1.64 times higher than points scored away)

P-value = 0.0002 (or 1 in 5000)
I'm not an expert on stats and that's gone over my head, but surely if the sample size is only 33 games, it's not possible to get a meaningful result from such a test?

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Roosterbooster » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:35 pm

dsr wrote:I doubt that test works. For one thing, the sample results of Burnley's matches don't in any way approximate to a normal distribution, if you're comparing away results with home results. You can use a t-test to establish whether there is a home advantage over the division as a whole, which I'm sure there is; but it isn't designed to look at the outliers to determine whether they're flukes or natural variation.

Given 36 points total, what range of home-away splits would put us in the 95% range?
Yeah it's not the ideal test. But it does highlight that our away form is much worse than our home form. Without re revising my statistics, I'm not sure how to calculate it exactly. But if you think with our 36 points, using the 1.64 factor, the expected split would be 22 home points to 14 away points. That's a 10 point swing

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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Falcon » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:39 pm

Can we all just agree that KRBFC is a cock and this thread is already better without him/her/it/whatever
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Re: SD trapped in his own tautology

Post by Roosterbooster » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:40 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I'm not an expert on stats and that's gone over my head, but surely if the sample size is only 33 games, it's not possible to get a meaningful result from such a test?
Small sample sizes only give significant results if the difference is vast. Normally you would expect to need a much larger sample size. And the larger the sample size the more valid the result. The tests are prone to error, particularly when the test isnt really designed for the question being asked, and when the sample is so small. But the suggestion is clear. Our away form is awful

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