10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
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If implemented it will become yet another tool to give the big clubs an advantage.
I can see it now Burnley player says "no way ref" is sent straight to the sin bin.
Man United player says "how the **** can you ******* give that you useless ******* ****" is threatened with sin bin.
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
Good luck to any ref on a Sunday morning with that one. Far better idea to introduce it at the other end of the league structure. 10 minutes seems very short and we'd probably see more players falling down to rub their ankle or need a drink of water. Chaos looming.
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It'll only work if a team is losing as it could leave them exposed. If a team is winning they'll just park the bus for 10 mins.
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
How about an old-fashioned yellow card? Would have thought that would do the trick. Sin bin sounds like a gimmick and something else to add to the game, slowing it down and making it more complicated.
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It didn't for Zaha on Saturday.chekhov wrote:How about an old-fashioned yellow card? Would have thought that would do the trick.
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Exactly.Silkyskills1 wrote:Good luck to any ref on a Sunday morning with that one. Far better idea to introduce it at the other end of the league structure. 10 minutes seems very short and we'd probably see more players falling down to rub their ankle or need a drink of water. Chaos looming.
If you introduce a 10 minute sin bin it will ruin those ten minutes of the game. The side down to 10 will do everything in their power to waste time.
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
Who manages the 10 minutes? If 3 or 4 players are off then pure chaos.Silkyskills1 wrote:Good luck to any ref on a Sunday morning with that one. Far better idea to introduce it at the other end of the league structure. 10 minutes seems very short and we'd probably see more players falling down to rub their ankle or need a drink of water. Chaos looming.
Also if temp sin bin for dissent and it continues is that a standard yellow and back on pitch or a 2nd yellow and sent off.
Is the player allowed to stand with his team during the sin binning or do we need seperate "detention areas"
Terrible idea
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Some bizarre comments on here. They manage at the big International tournaments in Rugby Union with this. Is football anywhere near as complex on tackles etc? I don't think so. Respect is one thing they have for their game and the referee.
Something very much lacking in football.
It's easily dealt with. It's not Diane Abbott counting the time down. It'll be a clock.
Sure, it goes without saying that a team down to ten men will try to slow the game down etc but surely that can be added to the sin bin. As in the rugby, the clock stops. Just stop the clock when a player tries to waste time. It really is quite simple. They'll soon realise that wasting time will just extend the game. I'm all for it if it stops the diving like Sane, Zaha, Rashford etc tried at the weekend. Continuous disruption of play/tie wasting would result in a yellow/second yellow card and a subsequent red. It's very simple. It would stop cheating very quickly and improve the flow of the game eventually.
Something very much lacking in football.
It's easily dealt with. It's not Diane Abbott counting the time down. It'll be a clock.
Sure, it goes without saying that a team down to ten men will try to slow the game down etc but surely that can be added to the sin bin. As in the rugby, the clock stops. Just stop the clock when a player tries to waste time. It really is quite simple. They'll soon realise that wasting time will just extend the game. I'm all for it if it stops the diving like Sane, Zaha, Rashford etc tried at the weekend. Continuous disruption of play/tie wasting would result in a yellow/second yellow card and a subsequent red. It's very simple. It would stop cheating very quickly and improve the flow of the game eventually.
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
How about the player is sin-binned until the next goal goes in 
If the winning team defends deep, that's only what they'd have done had a man been sent off, anyway.
But overall, I don't think it will work.

If the winning team defends deep, that's only what they'd have done had a man been sent off, anyway.
But overall, I don't think it will work.
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
Not in favour of this at all
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
Man Utd would be down to 3 men after the first decision goes against them.
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
Pointless unless there is a running clock showing game time and sinbin time, as in rugby.
a player will just go down injured and spin out the 10 mins.
a player will just go down injured and spin out the 10 mins.
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I'd much rather see physio's coming onto the pitch whilst play continues around them. That'd stop the time wasting / rolling around like you've been shot by a sniper.
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Brilliant
Other than 2 or 3 of our team, eg marney, barton, barnes this will work massively to our advantage compared to all the other ill disciplined lot.
Will probably stop it happening in the 1st place so that's got to be a good thing. Referees have enough to do with trying to control some of these idiots!
Other than 2 or 3 of our team, eg marney, barton, barnes this will work massively to our advantage compared to all the other ill disciplined lot.
Will probably stop it happening in the 1st place so that's got to be a good thing. Referees have enough to do with trying to control some of these idiots!
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Think we can forget this one guys, shite idea
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If this is meant to combat dissent, as it says, then they should never have scrapped the
ten yard rule, where the ball was moved forward when someone began mouthing off.
This was a real deterrent, particularly when play was near the box.
Think those belmtards UEFA gave it the elbow, but I don't know why.
ten yard rule, where the ball was moved forward when someone began mouthing off.
This was a real deterrent, particularly when play was near the box.
Think those belmtards UEFA gave it the elbow, but I don't know why.
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Apart from the fact we arent playing non league football.clitheroeclaret2 wrote:Brilliant
Other than 2 or 3 of our team, eg marney, barton, barnes this will work massively to our advantage compared to all the other ill disciplined lot.
Will probably stop it happening in the 1st place so that's got to be a good thing. Referees have enough to do with trying to control some of these idiots!
Might help the horse fiddlers in a couple of years tho
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
Silly idea only suited to sports played with a stop-clock for game time.
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non-league crowds will be able to look forward to bits of 5 a-side with rush-goalies. Sounds like fun, if not football as we know it.
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
The other week Rooney appeared to spend about 10mins complaining to/about the ref after he didn't get something awarded in his favour.
The ref eventually booked him when he got bored of the gobbing off.
If people are happy to see that going on then fair enough.
What about the times when Players surround the ref?
Personally there should be a microphone on the ref so the FA can listen to the recordings after games and hand out punishments based on the words aimed at the refs that we've all seen used.
The ref eventually booked him when he got bored of the gobbing off.
If people are happy to see that going on then fair enough.
What about the times when Players surround the ref?
Personally there should be a microphone on the ref so the FA can listen to the recordings after games and hand out punishments based on the words aimed at the refs that we've all seen used.
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I can see the logic behind it but can't see how it could be worked into the game.
Imagine Zaha gets his second yellow against us but goes on in the game to score the winner. He misses the following game against our relegation rivals, thus weakening Zaha's team and increasing our rivals chances. How have Burnley benefited in this scenario?
IMO it should be put in for diving and the player off the pitch for 10 minutes live ball time, so that injuries and time wasting would only hurt the team with the diving player. How would Man U react to Rashford missing 15 minutes of the game for diving. More importantly, would he be as inclined to do it again?
Imagine Zaha gets his second yellow against us but goes on in the game to score the winner. He misses the following game against our relegation rivals, thus weakening Zaha's team and increasing our rivals chances. How have Burnley benefited in this scenario?
IMO it should be put in for diving and the player off the pitch for 10 minutes live ball time, so that injuries and time wasting would only hurt the team with the diving player. How would Man U react to Rashford missing 15 minutes of the game for diving. More importantly, would he be as inclined to do it again?
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
The Microphone works really well in Rugby Union,and the players respect the referee so much more,great idea for football.Sidney1st wrote:The other week Rooney appeared to spend about 10mins complaining to/about the ref after he didn't get something awarded in his favour.
The ref eventually booked him when he got bored of the gobbing off.
If people are happy to see that going on then fair enough.
What about the times when Players surround the ref?
Personally there should be a microphone on the ref so the FA can listen to the recordings after games and hand out punishments based on the words aimed at the refs that we've all seen used.
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Under that premise, the FA should do away with the red card, cause it ruins what is left of the game.the_fat_shearer wrote:Exactly.
If you introduce a 10 minute sin bin it will ruin those ten minutes of the game. The side down to 10 will do everything in their power to waste time.
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Additional minutes anybody?Rowls wrote:Silly idea only suited to sports played with a stop-clock for game time.
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
Forget sin bins, the football authorities should introduce a free kick in the knackers.
Say we're playing manure and Rashford takes a dive or Rooney does too much gobbing off, instead of a sin bin or yellow card for the player, our manager should be allowed to kick their manager in the knackers. Would soon have managers ridding such behaviour from their players and make for great TV. Who'd tune in to MOTD to watch Dyche hoof Mourinho? Forget goal of the month, balls of the month would be swell !!!
Say we're playing manure and Rashford takes a dive or Rooney does too much gobbing off, instead of a sin bin or yellow card for the player, our manager should be allowed to kick their manager in the knackers. Would soon have managers ridding such behaviour from their players and make for great TV. Who'd tune in to MOTD to watch Dyche hoof Mourinho? Forget goal of the month, balls of the month would be swell !!!
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Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league
What about the lesser spotted female managers who I understand are generally sans knackers?
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They're given a wedgie and banned from talking for 10 minutes, that's probably enough to upset most women.Falcon wrote:What about the lesser spotted female managers who I understand are generally sans knackers?