Marco Silva

[snapcrackleandpop]

Am I missing something here? on the TV and radio I keep hearing about the brilliant job Marco Silva is doing with Hull City.
When he took over in January they were bottom of the league and 2 points from safety and looked in trouble, in the first week of May they are in 17th place and only 2 points clear of a relegation place and STILL in trouble, so they are really only 4 points better off than when he took over.
I agree he is doing a better job than Bruce & Phelan were doing because they would have been gone with Sunderland by now, and I am not saying he is a poor manager by any stretch of the imagination, but I am not seeing the "wonderful " job he has done and all the hype that surrounds him and I certainly wouldn't swap him for Dyche.

[Sidney1st]

*sits back to wait for the Marco Silva fanclub- KRBFC*

[jedi_master]

Silva lost Hull's two best players in January in Livermore and Snodgrass and invested what little money he was given very well on what appear to be a mixture of high quality loans and successful permanent deals.

I think he is doing a tremendous job, so is Dyche of course.

[Lancasterclaret]

Hull should be dead and buried.

The only reason they are not Sunderland Mk II is Marco Silva.

If he keeps them up, then its a tremendous achievement.

[TheFamilyCat]

History shows that Keeping a promoted side in the Premier League is a tough task. Probably even tougher when joining midway through the season.

If he keeps them up it won't be a "Great Escape" because as pointed out, they were only a couple of points adrift when he took over but he will still have done a great job.

Hasn't won away though, has he?

Will be interesting to see how he does next season with a pre-season to mould his squad.

[Lord Beamish]

Let's face it; Swansea and Hull's tardiness in wielding the axe and changing managers has been a large factor in our imminent security in this division. Them sticking with their lame duck managers for so long has given us a lot of breathing space.

[dsr]

Silva lost Hull's two best players in January in Livermore and Snodgrass and invested what little money he was given very well on what appear to be a mixture of high quality loans and successful permanent deals.

I think he is doing a tremendous job, so is Dyche of course.

Didn't he sign 7 players? I think when the accounts are published (in a year's time) we'll probably find that these players were not cheap.

[alicante claret]

I believe he has done a good job, however as far as I am aware the ownership of the club is still a mess. I would be happy for them to stay up. I suspect he could move on in the summer.

[MiltonKeynesClaret93]

Let's face it; Swansea and Hull's tardiness in wielding the axe and changing managers has been a large factor in our imminent security in this division. Them sticking with their lame duck managers for so long has given us a lot of breathing space.

Aye, that and having almost 40 points with 3 games remaining.

[Colburn_Claret]

The reason they were only 2 pts off safety when he took over, was because of the 7 pts they got in the first 3 matches. Their form since had been horrendous. If he keeps them up he deserves a lot of credit, and will get it.

[martin_p]

Aye, that and having almost 40 points with 3 games remaining.

This!

If we were on course to stay up with 35 points or something like that I could understand the comments about Hull and Swansea being a large part of why we're staying up. But given we've already got a points total that usually guarantees safety and that only two of those points came from Hull and Swansea the assertion is clearly ********!!

[Lord Beamish]

This!

If we were on course to stay up with 35 points or something like that I could understand the comments about Hull and Swansea being a large part of why we're staying up. But given we've already got a points total that usually guarantees safety and that only two of those points came from Hull and Swansea the assertion is clearly ********!!

Whether you like it or not, a key factor in a Club like ours staying up is having at least 3 Teams worse than us. I'm not saying Swansea and Hull's dire pre-management change form is the only factor in our success, just that it is an important one. I didn't even intimate that it was more important than our own form(which it isn't), so there's no need to bleat about it.

[martin_p]

Whether you like it or not, a key factor in a Club like ours staying up is having at least 3 Teams worse than us. I'm not saying Swansea and Hull's dire pre-management change form is the only factor in our success, just that it is an important one. I didn't even intimate that it was more important than our own form(which it isn't), so there's no need to bleat about it.

Not bleating, just pointing out that what you said was ********. The only factor in us staying up will be the number of points we've got.

[MACCA]

I think it's the run of games they've had since he took over that's impressive.
Wins against Bournemouth, Swansea, Liverpool and draws against Man Utd and ourselves in the league early in his reign ( after losing their 2 best players and some key injuries ), will be what probably keeps them up.

I don't think they would have had half them points if they wouldn't have changed manager.
They were looking stagnant and everyone's favourites for the drop.
He's done a great job, it's just Mr Dyche has done a slightly better one.

[jlup1980]

I think you can class Silva's reign as a "great escape" when you look at the numbers. They took 13 points from the first 20 games of the season (0.65 points per game) and they were bottom of the league. They were on course to hit about 25 points for the season; guaranteed relegation!! Then they appointed Silva.

He's turned their season around by taking 21 points in 15 matches. That's 1.4 points per game and spread across a season would see a return of over 50 points. That's a comfortable top half finish (8th this season!). I think he's done a remarkable job when you consider he lost Snodgrass and Livermore in January. His signings have been very good overall as well - Ranocchia, Grosicki, Markovic and Niasse were all a huge upgrade on what they had in the squad and it shows in the results.

Rumour has it Inter have set a £9 million asking price for Ranocchia. If we get the sort of money we're expected to get for Keane I think he's a guy to seriously consider; 29 years old (good age for a centre half) 100+ games for Inter, 20+ caps for Italy, £9 million. Sounds a snip to me.

[Holtyclaret]

Personally I think Phelan did a good job, having been dealt the worse hand ever pre-season by the owners (remembering that photo on their pre-season tour when they only had about 7 players). Although they lost games the effort his players put in each game was tremendous.

Silva has picked that up and is doing a great job, particularly after the sale of his two best players. He deserves a medal if he keeps them up.

If the worst happened and we lost Dyche, I would love him at T'turf.

[dibraidio]

Unbeaten in 50 odd home games. Silva clearly is getting something right and if he stays I'd expect Hull to be even better next season but those 50 games have been with 4 different clubs so who knows if he'll stay around this time. He's done far better than Clement but not as good as Allardyce. Mind you they're both English so they don't really count.

Bob Bradley was given 11 games at Swansea, I don't really see that as giving him too long. He didn't even get a transfer window.

I hope that Silva moves to a better club in the summer and then Hull can keep their role as relegation contenders for next season. As Beamish said, we're going to need 3 worse teams than us and Hull are definitely capable of playing that role.

[Lord Beamish]

Not bleating, just pointing out that what you said was ********. The only factor in us staying up will be the number of points we've got.

So Swansea, with a squad superior to ours, who have managed to stay in the Prem for four years, appointing a dud like Bradley for a significant part of the season has nothing to do with the current points difference between our two Clubs?
I'm all for giving credit where it's due, and have been nothing short of fulsome praise for Sean and hiss Team's efforts this season, but to deny that the turmoil at Clubs such as Hull, Swansea, Middlesbrough, and Sunderland hasn't been bloody advantageous to our situation is nothing short of utter nonsense.

[martin_p]

So Swansea, with a squad superior to ours, who have managed to stay in the Prem for four years, appointing a dud like Bradley for a significant part of the season has nothing to do with the current points difference between our two Clubs?
I'm all for giving credit where it's due, and have been nothing short of fulsome praise for Sean and hiss Team's efforts this season, but to deny that the turmoil at Clubs such as Hull, Swansea, Middlesbrough, and Sunderland hasn't been bloody advantageous to our situation is nothing short of utter nonsense.

And quite a few clubs are better than they were last season as well, I'm pretty sure we'd have got three points at home against Man United or Chelsea last season. And you can say what you want about the 'turmoil' at Swansea, but it hasn't contributed one iota to our points total. Whatever the make-up of the league, history has shown that 39 points is more often than not enough to stay in it and that is the reason we're likely to do so.

[Rileybobs]

The dreadful form of the likes of Sunderland, Boro, Hull and Swansea hasn't had a direct effect on our points tally, in fact you could say that our combined points tally against those sides is quite disappointing considering. But the fact that those sides made such dreadful starts to the season meant that we have found ourselves with a comfortable amount of breathing space which has helped with the nerves in the crowd and on the pitch. I think it's fair to say that we may not have held our nerves quite as well had these teams been breathing down our necks.

[KRBFC]

Remarkable how they're not dead and buried already. Has everybody forgot preseason? They barely had 11 first teamers for large parts of the season and Bruce walked out because he didn't fancy it. Then they lost 2 best players in January. Silva transformed them with loan players and they're one of the top 10 sides in the league since he joined.

[KRBFC]

Unbeaten in 50 odd home games. Silva clearly is getting something right and if he stays I'd expect Hull to be even better next season but those 50 games have been with 4 different clubs so who knows if he'll stay around this time. He's done far better than Clement but not as good as Allardyce. Mind you they're both English so they don't really count.

Bob Bradley was given 11 games at Swansea, I don't really see that as giving him too long. He didn't even get a transfer window.

I hope that Silva moves to a better club in the summer and then Hull can keep their role as relegation contenders for next season. As Beamish said, we're going to need 3 worse teams than us and Hull are definitely capable of playing that role.

Silva move to a better team you say?

[Quickenthetempo]

Silva is already linked to 3 or 4 jobs in the premier league next season even though they still have managers. He is certainly the man of the moment which is good news for Burnley fans who want Dyche to stay.

[USC]

Can't believe the OP (and some others) don't understand how good a job Silva has done since he took over and belittle his achievements. Let's be clear, Hull were going nowhere other than down before he took over (6 points from 9 matches).

And these are probably the same people that complain Dyche doesn't get enough credit for keeping us up!

[KRBFC]

Can't believe the OP (and some others) don't understand how good a job Silva has done since he took over and belittle his achievements. Let's be clear, Hull were going nowhere other than down before he took over (6 points from 9 matches).

And these are probably the same people that complain Dyche doesn't get enough credit for keeping us up!

Alot of people on this forum wont watch much football, this forum is their place to go for team news, scores and to gauge how well/bad we played based on the comments from the ones in attendance.

[Right_winger]

would anyone pick Dyche over Silva?

[Sidney1st]

would anyone pick Dyche over Silva?

KRBFC wouldn't, he'd be all over Silva like a rash.

[minnieclaret]

Porto are reportedly after him and am I correct in thinking his only dropped home point was against us?
He's done a fabulous job at home but can't win away. Sound familiar?
He also came in during a transfer window and bought and loaned excellently.

[aggi]

For some comparison:
Dyche 1.114 pts per game
Allardyce 1.277 pts per game
Silva 1.4 pts per game

I don't think Dyche is that comparable having been in for a full season whereas the others have fewer games and had the new manager bump. It's impressive compared to Allardyce.

[Tall Paul]

41 game unbeaten home run ended by relegated Sunderland.

[Sidney1st]

Defoe was offside too

[joey13]

41 game unbeaten home run ended by relegated Sunderland.

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[Sidney1st]

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Including previous job.

[Tall Paul]

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Silva hadn't lost any of his last 41 home games as manager.

[Rileybobs]

Swansea will be sniffing blood. This was a Hull banker.

[jedi_master]

I quite like Hull but sadly they will now be the ones to go I think.

At least it will probably mean we sign Andy Robertson.