Eurovision 2017

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:27 pm

Anybody going to watch? I might flick over now and then to see how we're doing. Although I don't particularly like our entry.

From the songs I've heard, I think Bulgaria's is the best.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:33 pm

I hate the **** usually, but I happen to think ours is a great song, and a fantastic singer . I believe it will win.
Heard it several times, and its excellent.

theres a bunch of clowns with saxophones dancing about from Moldova, they'll possibly do well because it has that cak head appeal most europeans adore. ...anyway, ours is best by a mile. Up the Eurovision Entry.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:36 pm

The reason why I'm not a fan of ours is because it sounds to me like a song dying to break out, but it never does. It had potential to be a lot better I think. It's alright, I guess.

I'll put a pretend bet on Bulgaria.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:38 pm

ours is certainly a slow burner, but it does get going eventually, very powerful performance. Havent heard Bulgaria yet.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:38 pm

Our entry is codswallop,expect nul points!

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:39 pm

There's one called toilet paper i think, possibly icelands entry. what drivel .who thinks of the titles ? lunatics.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:40 pm

Here's the running order: https://eurovision.tv/story/running-ord ... final-2017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UK have a decent slot, as I think it's generally the ones nearer the start that people have forgotten about by the time they can vote.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:41 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:There's one called toilet paper i think, possibly icelands entry. what drivel .who thinks of the titles ? lunatics.

Aye, I've heard it. It's crap...

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:51 pm

there was one years ago called petrol, turkish song. quite good as it turned out.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:58 pm

Israel and Australia,what's that all about?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri May 12, 2017 8:00 pm

This is the 3rd year for Australia now.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Fri May 12, 2017 8:05 pm

yes, australia is pushing the bounds of credibility somewhat,

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Fri May 12, 2017 8:19 pm

They both are ,I know Israel has been in it from day one probably but why,where's Syria,Jordan and Lebanon?Get rid of these clowns they're not Europeans!

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Fri May 12, 2017 8:25 pm

by the way, how long has it been spread across three seperate dates ? there were semis the other day. I thought it was all on one night.

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Fri May 12, 2017 8:35 pm

No Russia this year.

"Eurovision Song Contest 2017: Russia pulls out after singer banned from entering Ukraine

Singer Yulia Samoylova has been barred from entering the country hosting this year's ceremony"

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 83761.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri May 12, 2017 8:41 pm

Flatline wrote:They both are ,I know Israel has been in it from day one probably but why,where's Syria,Jordan and Lebanon?Get rid of these clowns they're not Europeans!

Indeed. We should open it up to Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. Bunch of other countries too. It'd be cool to hear their music on the night.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Fri May 12, 2017 8:48 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Indeed. We should open it up to Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. Bunch of other countries too. It'd be cool to hear their music on the night.

I'd agree,so why is Israel only in it?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri May 12, 2017 9:01 pm

Flatline wrote:I'd agree,so why is Israel only in it?

So you agree that we should expand eurovision? That's awfully progressive and inclusive of you. Good on you!

As for your question, i don't know the answer to that. Do you? If so, what is it?

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Fri May 12, 2017 9:06 pm

How far do you want to expand it, Australia are already in it and they're on the other side of the world.

Thanks to Brexit and the fact Europe already hates us we'll be near the bottom like every other year recently. Voting is political, doesn't matter how good a song is.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Fri May 12, 2017 9:07 pm

not a chance, if they think its political now, god alone knows how it'd be with israel and half the middle eastern countries involved. they'd need UN peacekeepers waiting in the wings.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri May 12, 2017 9:11 pm

Firthy wrote:How far do you want to expand it, Australia are already in it and they're on the other side of the world.

Thanks to Brexit and the fact Europe already hates us we'll be near the bottom like every other year recently. Voting is political, doesn't matter how good a song is.

I don't know. Let's see who's interested. It's a smaller world now than when it started so why not make it Worldvision if there's enough interest?

And if that's your attitude to Eurovision then why are you even bothering opening the thread? Maybe we will finish near the bottom, so what? Does that change the quality of the music?

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Fri May 12, 2017 9:15 pm

No,I don't but as you obviously avoided my question for the sake of argument without acknowledging my question I realise you don't know and just like talking shite.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Fri May 12, 2017 9:16 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I don't know. Let's see who's interested. It's a smaller world now than when it started so why not make it Worldvision if there's enough interest?

And if that's your attitude to Eurovision then why are you even bothering opening the thread? Maybe we will finish near the bottom, so what? Does that change the quality of the music?

Worldwide would be good, I'm all for that.

And it's not my attitude, it's just the facts

I didn't say the quality of our song is bad just that the quality doesn't matter because they vote for the country not the song.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri May 12, 2017 10:09 pm

Flatline wrote:No,I don't but as you obviously avoided my question for the sake of argument without acknowledging my question I realise you don't know and just like talking shite.

I neither avoided nor failed to acknowledge your question. Good effort though.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Fri May 12, 2017 10:29 pm

Underlying tones Turtle,stop being a knob!

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri May 12, 2017 11:15 pm

Flatline wrote:Israel and Australia,what's that all about?

Israel tend to play in Europe for stuff like Eurovision and football, because the Arabs can't stand them and they'd have nowhere to play if Europe didn't let them. Certain nations are like that - Spain is the same with Gibraltar (they had to rig the Euro draw to stop them being drawn in the same group).

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Fri May 12, 2017 11:33 pm

Israel is able to enter the contest as a Israel Broadcasting Authority (IBA) member organisation of the European Broadcasting Union, which is responsible for the event.

The anomaly is Australia who were allowed to enter as part of the competitions 70th anniversary celebrations as Australia has a large tv audience for the event. It was however supposed to be a one off initially

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Fri May 12, 2017 11:49 pm

dsr wrote:Israel tend to play in Europe for stuff like Eurovision and football, because the Arabs can't stand them and they'd have nowhere to play if Europe didn't let them. Certain nations are like that - Spain is the same with Gibraltar (they had to rig the Euro draw to stop them being drawn in the same group).

That's their problem,learn to get on with your neighbours like we did or bog off.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Sat May 13, 2017 12:00 am

[quote="THEWELLERNUT70"]Israel is able to enter the contest as a Israel Broadcasting Authority (IBA) member organisation of the European Broadcasting Union, which is responsible for the event.

Bought their way in then,money talks I see.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat May 13, 2017 12:11 am

Flatline wrote:That's their problem,learn to get on with your neighbours like we did or bog off.

Israel are more willing to play with the Arabs than the Arabs are to play with them.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat May 13, 2017 12:56 am

dsr wrote:Israel are more willing to play with the Arabs than the Arabs are to play with them.

The Israeli people and the Palestinian people are far more happy to get along than the Israeli government and the Palestinian authority. Especially the young.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat May 13, 2017 12:57 am

Flatline wrote:Underlying tones Turtle,stop being a knob!

You accused me of doing two things that i demonstrably didn't do, yet it's me that's being the knob?

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat May 13, 2017 1:26 am

jesus, two burnley fans at war, debating inclusion of Israel and arab participants in a singing contest, does it get more surreal ?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat May 13, 2017 1:38 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:jesus, two burnley fans at war, debating inclusion of Israel and arab participants in a singing contest, does it get more surreal ?

I think you're getting confused between the words "discussion" and "war". Easy mistake to make.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat May 13, 2017 6:52 am

Yes, I'll be watching as always! I don't watch much of the trash on TV nowadays (mind you, there are a lot of great series around these days) but have always enjoyed the weirdness of Eurovision. I sometimes wish they'd do away with public voting altogether because it seems most people can't be trusted to vote anything other than politically. That's what spoils it for me really.

On the other hand, half of the fun of it is predicting which countries each country vote for and inevitably complaining and threatening not to watch it again next year

I do wish people would vote for their favourite songs though.

I do miss Terry Wogan but Graham Norton does a good job in his stead. Haven't listened to any of the songs in advance so I'll be in for a few surprises I'm sure!

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat May 13, 2017 7:00 am

I think Norway's Daft Punk song is quite catchy.

Belgium have a good song too, but the girl is too young and lacks presence

Haven't heard Britain's entry yet, may tune in tonight

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sat May 13, 2017 11:36 am

Another great reason for voting leave

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat May 13, 2017 12:17 pm

Damo wrote:Another great reason for voting leave

That won't make any difference to us entering next year and beyond.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sat May 13, 2017 12:29 pm

FactualFrank wrote:That won't make any difference to us entering next year and beyond.

Oh crap. I thought voting leave meant we get to leave eurovision.
No doubt we will feel the EU countries wrath now when they 'nil point' us every year to show How upset they are

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Sat May 13, 2017 3:55 pm

Damo wrote:Oh crap. I thought voting leave meant we get to leave eurovision.
No doubt we will feel the EU countries wrath now when they 'nil point' us every year to show How upset they are

That's another lie put forward by either the remoaners or the brexiteers I'm sure.
Most of the Europeans I speak to us aren't upset with us but are sympathetic and feel sorry for us. We had a decent song last year and got next tO Nothing. Maybe this time we''ll have a **** song and do well. Last years winning song was seriously Blackburn.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat May 13, 2017 4:47 pm

Just listened to your entry this year, no chance I'm afraid - far too many ballads anyway

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat May 13, 2017 4:49 pm

Could be better than the dross served up on the south coast

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat May 13, 2017 4:52 pm

This is the song from Bulgaria, which after a quick listen through them all, I think is the best one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM7s8lBNdLg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sat May 13, 2017 5:01 pm

I can't believe Finland didn't qualify ..Great song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipK0AH-6Dis

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat May 13, 2017 8:09 pm

Oh the cheese of these presenters!

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat May 13, 2017 8:14 pm

Israel guy is tone deaf. Next!

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sat May 13, 2017 8:19 pm

Norton just nearly made me die laughing with the crack about the Polish violinist...

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat May 13, 2017 8:57 pm

The Portugal entry is a bit weird, isn't it?! Kooky guy.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat May 13, 2017 9:05 pm

That jacket the Croatian blokes wearing could double up as a marquee.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat May 13, 2017 9:06 pm

Croatia's sounds like a outtake from Disney's frozen