Ex Met Chief calls for internment

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:15 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:
4 minutes apart for registration . Very sloppy.

don't tell him.

titsoutforthelads · Post by **titsoutforthelads** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:15 pm

ClaretandJew what is your soultion then ?

No amount of tears,wreath laying and attending vigils to going to make the potential risks go away.

Internal not a good solution but maybe its the best solution available.

I would love to hear your solution

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:16 pm

RUMBLED

Possibly USC possibly t-rex.

But claret and jew and IT are the passive and the aggressive split of the same person.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:20 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:RUMBLED

Possibly USC possibly t-rex.

But claret and jew and IT are the passive and the aggressive split of the same person.

You've finally lost it.

Oh, hang on, you never had it.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:21 pm

"Internal not a good solution but maybe its the best solution available."

Internal, eh?

I believe Dr. Mengele used to do something similar.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:22 pm

fidelcastro wrote:You've finally lost it.

Oh, hang on, you never had it.

Don't you ******* dare ruin this. There are a lot of miles in this yet!

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:23 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Don't you ******* dare ruin this. There are a lot of miles in this yet!

I know, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him.

It's the bleeding heart, do gooder, terrorist appeaser in me.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:25 pm

titsoutforthelads wrote:ClaretandJew what is your soultion then ?

No amount of tears,wreath laying and attending vigils to going to make the potential risks go away.

Internal not a good solution but maybe its the best solution available.

I would love to hear your solution

Internment will be like trying to put out a chip pan fire with petrol.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:26 pm

fidelcastro wrote:I know, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him.

It's the bleeding heart, do gooder, terrorist appeaser in me.

I understand, being quite the terrorist appeasing sympathiser myself. Allahu ackbar.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:28 pm

fidelcastro wrote:You've finally lost it.

Oh, hang on, you never had it.

Go back and look at various threads. Turtle and c and j are inseparable. Always always backing up himself using 2 names. "Liking" each other's posts.

There was a thread started yesterday by "turtle" called "The weather" . First to post was "c and j" he then replied to himself as "turtle" and back and forth he went

The thread got no interest. It was deleted.

Just have a look at the threads. It's very very apparent. Go back and look at the often seconds apart replies to himself using 2 separate names.

And don't forget he's got previous for using aliases. Before you jump in mocking. Go and have a look at threads. Particularly the politics based ones.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:29 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I understand, being quite the terrorist appeasing sympathiser myself. Allahu ackbar.

RUMBLED!!!!!!!

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:31 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Go back and look at various threads. Turtle and c and j are inseparable. Always always backing up himself using 2 names. "Liking" each other's posts.

There was a thread started yesterday by "turtle" called "The weather" . First to post was "c and j" he then replied to himself as "turtle" and back and forth he went

The thread got no interest. It was deleted.

Just have a look at the threads. It's very very apparent. Go back and look at the often seconds apart replies to himself using 2 separate names.

And don't forget he's got previous for using aliases. Before you jump in mocking. Go and have a look at threads. Particularly the politics based ones.

That's your evidence, is it?

Righto then.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:33 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:How do you quantify an extremist?

If someone hasn't broken the LAW, they don't need to be dealt with.

If someone is an actual terrorist, they will get dealt with.

True but something does need to be done, before they can commit a crime, at which point, it's too late and we are back debating solutions again.

At the same time though we have to be mindful of the values that we as a society want to live by.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:35 pm

fidelcastro wrote:That's your evidence, is it?

Righto then.

So you've actually had a look at threads . Seen how they've developed and looked at the "close relationship" between the his identities!?

You haven't have you?

He's got previous.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:35 pm

DCWat wrote:True but something does need to be done, before they can commit a crime, at which point, it's too late and we are back debating solutions again.

At the same time though we have to be mindful of the values that we as a society want to live by.

Do you think the very first terrorist-related crime that Salmon Abedi committed was when he set off his bomb?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:36 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:So you've actually had a look at threads . Seen how they've developed and looked at the "close relationship" between the his identities!?

You haven't have you?

He's got previous.

Source on this "previous"?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:36 pm

Hi C&J

We need a rethink RE our strategy on this forum..

Regards
IT

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:38 pm

I know Turtle, we ****** up by not accounting for Ringo's sharp deductive reasoning skills.

PutTheWheelieBinsOut · Post by **PutTheWheelieBinsOut** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:38 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I understand, being quite the terrorist appeasing sympathiser myself. Allahu ackbar.

Not even 6 days after the Manchester bombing you are making a joke about these things, you just clearly couldn't care less about the victims or their relatives. You start an idiotic poll about suicide bombers, you are sick. you have plastered laughing smiley faces over posts related to the bombing. You also made this comment "All Abedi could do was kill some people", like it was nothing.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:40 pm

PutTheWheelieBinsOut wrote:Not even 6 days after the Manchester bombing you are making a joke about these things, you just clearly couldn't care less about the victims or their relatives. You start an idiotic poll about suicide bombers, you are sick. you have plastered laughing smiley faces over posts related to the bombing. You also made this comment "All Abedi could do was kill some people".

So much cherry-picking and selective outrage in so few sentences.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:41 pm

Look at the "Manchester Arena thread" around post 322.

IT" is embroiled in a argument he's losing. He then back himself up as c and j and you can see that wants to see I wasn't meaning that. But he says something on the lines of "in sure IT didn't mean it that way" all the way thru that thread there's a lot of "cross pollination" shall we say!?

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:43 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:So you've actually had a look at threads . Seen how they've developed and looked at the "close relationship" between the his identities!?

You haven't have you?

He's got previous.

The likes of Claretandy and Sidney1st signed up that day too. Are they one and the same person as well?

Or perhaps they're also aliases of IT, and he just loves arguing with himself.

In fact, can you prove that I'm not IT or C&J?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:43 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Look at the "Manchester Arena thread" around post 322.

IT" is embroiled in a argument he's losing. He then back himself up as c and j and you can see that wants to see I wasn't meaning that. But he says something on the lines of "in sure IT didn't mean it that way" all the way thru that thread there's a lot of "cross pollination" shall we say!?

And we all know how much people like you hate "cross pollination".

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:44 pm

fidelcastro wrote:The likes of Claretandy and Sidney1st signed up that day too. Are they one and the same person as well?

Or perhaps they're also aliases of IT, and he just loves arguing with himself.

In fact, can you prove that I'm not IT or C&J?

Hey, Turtle, i mean fidel, PutTheBinsOut wants to have a word with you about your joke a little earlier.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:44 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I know Turtle, we ****** up by not accounting for Ringo's sharp deductive reasoning skills.

Huff n Puff all you like

But you've been outed claret and Turtle, haven't you imploding jew!

PutTheWheelieBinsOut · Post by **PutTheWheelieBinsOut** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:44 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:So much cherry-picking and selective outrage in so few sentences.

Ahh yes I agree with you at last!! I did cherry pick and I was selective. Interestingly though you didn't tell me I was wrong.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:47 pm

fidelcastro wrote:The likes of Claretandy and Sidney1st signed up that day too. Are they one and the same person as well?

Or perhaps they're also aliases of IT, and he just loves arguing with himself.

In fact, can you prove that I'm not IT or C&J?

4 minutes apart!?

Just go back over a few threads with an open mind. Look at the times of his posts and look at the good cop had cop, but always supporting always enboldening interplay between the 2 identities.

It's there it's one poster 2 names

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:50 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Do you think the very first terrorist-related crime that Salmon Abedi committed was when he set off his bomb?

No and the highlighted comment doesn't say that either.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:51 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:4 minutes apart!?

Just go back over a few threads with an open mind. Look at the times of his posts and look at the good cop had cop, but always supporting always enboldening interplay between the 2 identities.

It's there it's one poster 2 names

Perhaps they know each other? I dunno, but could always check with CT, if you think they're from the same IP address.

Something tells me that you still wouldn't accept you're wrong though.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:52 pm

PutTheWheelieBinsOut wrote:Ahh yes I agree with you at last!! I did cherry pick and I was selective. Interestingly though you didn't tell me I was wrong.

You're right, i didn't. I also haven't once on this forum offered my condolences to the dead, or their families for a similar reason; some things go without saying.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:52 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Hey, Turtle, i mean fidel, PutTheBinsOut wants to have a word with you about your joke a little earlier.

You're right fidel, erm, I mean Turtle... that was very crass and insensitive of me. I won't say it again.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:54 pm

DCWat wrote:No and the highlighted comment doesn't say that either.

Well, it kinda did. It said that when a terrorist commits a crime it's too late and we're back discussing solutions. It sounded very much like when he commits a crime it's the attack.

My point is that there are plenty of crimes a terrorist has to commit before they carry out an attack. Planning the attack is a crime. training for it is a crime. buying the equiptment with intent is a crime. If he's not alone then conspiring about it is a crime.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:58 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Perhaps they know each other? I dunno, but could always check with CT, if you think they're from the same IP address.

Something tells me that you still wouldn't accept you're wrong though.

I absolutely woould.

But I'm not wrong.

Like I say just go back. The constant reinforcing of his own opinion by himself is as plain as daylight.

Have you had a look at The post I mentioned. I'm off out now with the family. When I get chance I'll offer you more evidence. Be open minded. If I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I've no qualms about holding my hand up. But, if you get chance just have a scroll through and it becomes blindingly obvious.

He knows it. I know it.

He's been rumbled.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:00 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:the comparison with this and Auswitchz is right.

There's some real silliness on here.

You'd do better to explain why you think interment a bad idea than make fatuous comparisons.

The comparison is plain daft. The comparison of the internment of Irish paramilitaries is a good one.

Make a better argument.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:01 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Well, it kinda did. It said that when a terrorist commits a crime it's too late and we're back discussing solutions. It sounded very much like when he commits a crime it's the attack.

Of course that would very much depend upon whether or not the earlier crimes were identified.

In this instance, identified crimes (or not aside) it seems that there could well have been plenty of information to at least identify an issue and perhaps opportunity to prevent the attack.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:05 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:And we all know how much people like you hate "cross pollination".

Bang to rights my jekylle and Hyde friend!

Bang to rights!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:08 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:And we all know how much people like you hate "cross pollination".

Bang to rights my jekylle and Hyde friend!

Bang to rights!

Or would these faces be more appropriate

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:13 pm

fidelcastro wrote:The likes of Claretandy and Sidney1st signed up that day too. Are they one and the same person as well?

Or perhaps they're also aliases of IT, and he just loves arguing with himself.

In fact, can you prove that I'm not IT or C&J?

I can confirm I'm no one else but me.

Odd someone is claiming signing up dates means people are using multiple user names when most of us jumped over from CM all within a few weeks.

I know I've caught ABC answering himself but they'd forgotten to change username which was amusing.
I think Turtle has had more then one username, C&J doesn't though I suspect.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:24 pm

Sidney1st wrote:I can confirm I'm no one else but me.

Odd someone is claiming signing up dates means people are using multiple user names when most of us jumped over from CM all within a few weeks.

I know I've caught ABC answering himself but they'd forgotten to change username which was amusing.
I think Turtle has had more then one username, C&J doesn't though I suspect.

Not on here i haven't, (except C&J, shush you!) On the other site i had a few but i only created a new one when some trigger-happy Hitlerette of a mod banned be for something.

As much as you might enjoy the idea of me sitting here talking to myself, it's not something i've ever had to do. Not with extra accounts at least.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:27 pm

No I don't think you have done that, talk to yourself.

ABC has though on more than one occasion.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:47 pm

Sidney1st wrote:I can confirm I'm no one else but me.

Odd someone is claiming signing up dates means people are using multiple user names when most of us jumped over from CM all within a few weeks.

I know I've caught ABC answering himself but they'd forgotten to change username which was amusing.
I think Turtle has had more then one username, C&J doesn't though I suspect.

He registered 4 minutes apart at 7 clock in the morning!!

Sloppy very sloppy!

Sid , it's not just the time he registered the names. Just go through a couple of threads. And the "weather" one yesterday where he literally posted to himself was slightly disturbing. It's been deleted.

Just go thru a few threads and not the times of turtle and C and j posts. But more importantly, look at the constant support, reassuring, backing up, that he does . Like I say look at Manc arena thread around post 322. At the beginning of that thread too he has a pop at a lad using both names about some information from Oldham.

One of his favourite tricks is when as turtle he's gone to far, a poster gets angry . He comes back as c and j either as a peace maker or starts to say something on the lines of "your not threatening violence are you?" Taking the heat if himself.

If you can be arsed, go back thru a couple of threads. It's clear as day. Wether people agree with my opinions is irrelevant. But I've rumbled him. Good style.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:54 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Not on here i haven't, (except C&J, shush you!) On the other site i had a few but i only created a new one when some trigger-happy Hitlerette of a mod banned be for something.

As much as you might enjoy the idea of me sitting here talking to myself, it's not something i've ever had to do. Not with extra accounts at least.

"ON THE OTHER SITE I HAD A FEW!!!!!!!!!!:

AND YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE PREVIOUS!!!!!!

Claret and turtle!!! Hoisted by your own petard!!!!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:57 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Source on this "previous"?

See the above post you bang to rights IDIOT!!!!!!!!

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bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:58 pm

I love it when people suffering from phsyophrenia are exposed.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:59 pm

bfcjg wrote:I love it when people suffering from phsyophrenia are exposed.

So do I.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 3:02 pm

bfcjg wrote:I love it when people suffering from phsyophrenia are exposed.

I'm in the pub as I type.

I'd offer to buy a drink to drown his sorrows at being rumbled and humbled. I'd only have to buy them both the one pint!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 3:03 pm

bfcjg wrote:I love it when people suffering from phsyophrenia are exposed.

Suffering from what now?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 28, 2017 3:04 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:
AND YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE PREVIOUS!!!!!!

What?

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sun May 28, 2017 3:11 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Go back and look at various threads. Turtle and c and j are inseparable. Always always backing up himself using 2 names. "Liking" each other's posts.

There was a thread started yesterday by "turtle" called "The weather" . First to post was "c and j" he then replied to himself as "turtle" and back and forth he went

The thread got no interest. It was deleted.

Just have a look at the threads. It's very very apparent. Go back and look at the often seconds apart replies to himself using 2 separate names.

And don't forget he's got previous for using aliases. Before you jump in mocking. Go and have a look at threads. Particularly the politics based ones.

I must admit, i had my suspicions ....

On post number 8 on this page he replies to a question to C and J !

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun May 28, 2017 3:11 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:What?

Get your other half to read back up this thread itll soon become apparent to you both/self!!!!

You've actually been rumbled by your nemesis!

Of all the posters to suss you. It had to be me!!!

Boy is that painful for you!!!

It must be a rotten feeling FOR YOU BOTH