Play off results - is it luck on your side?

[cricketfieldclarets]

Huddersfield winning today adds another to their list of success. Blackpool yesterday have a history of success to with 5 play off promotions. Both are the only sides to win play off finals in all three leagues.

We have a decent record too winning every final.

Reading who lost today have lost 4 finals. Preston have lost 9 out of 10 play off campaigns. Sheffield United, Forest and MK Dons also have a very poor record.

So all these clubs have had various teams with many different players in the play offs over the last 30 years. So whats the reason? Is history significant with different players of the same club? Psycology etc. You see similar patterns with 'bogie teams'.

You could have safely put money on blackpool and huddersfield this weekend.

[tim_noone]

I put money on reading... But really wanted Huddersfield.

[dsr]

Huddersfield winning today adds another to their list of success. Blackpool yesterday have a history of success to with 5 play off promotions. Both are the only sides to win play off finals in all three leagues.

We have a decent record too winning every final.

Reading who lost today have lost 4 finals. Preston have lost 9 out of 10 play off campaigns. Sheffield United, Forest and MK Dons also have a very poor record.

So all these clubs have had various teams with many different players in the play offs over the last 30 years. So whats the reason? Is history significant with different players of the same club? Psycology etc. You see similar patterns with 'bogie teams'.

You could have safely put money on blackpool and huddersfield this weekend.

Just luck, IMO. If a side plays in the play-offs 10 times, there is a 5% chance of losing all ten, and 18% chance of winning 1. That's 23% chance, or about 1 in 4, of winning 1 or less in 1- play-off appearances - so if four teams reach the play-offs 10 times, then by the law of averages one of them will get one or fewer wins. They can be defined, after the event, as the bogey team.

[john'sroseyspecs]

Or, it's a 2 horse race

[Bin Ont Turf]

The only (good) luck that we've had go for us in the 8 Play Off matches we've played in, was when Stockport turned up not to play football but to kick our players up in the air.

[cricketfieldclarets]

The only (good) luck that we've had go for us in the 8 Play Off matches we've played in, was when Stockport turned up not to play football but to kick our players up in the air.

And Bikey completeley losing the plot. And plymouth booking the hotels for wembley after a draw at ours. And their fans trying to put john francis off and failing miserably. And Paterson and Thompson becoming Ronaldo and Messi.

[Bin Ont Turf]

A player (Bikey) known for being a bit scatty is nowt to do with luck.

Plymouth fans booking hotels had no bearing on what happened on the pitch.

Paterson and Thompson were still as far away a Messi and Ronaldo as could be in that game. If your players part like the Red Sea and let a player run 30-ish yards with the ball, there is always a chance he could score.

Reading didn't offer that much in the second leg (after we had defended very well in the first), which wasn't about luck.

[tim_noone]

A player (Bikey) known for being a bit scatty is nowt to do with luck.

Plymouth fans booking hotels had no bearing on what happened on the pitch.

Paterson and Thompson were still as far away a Messi and Ronaldo as could be in that game. If your players part like the Red Sea and let a player run 30-ish yards with the ball, there is always a chance he could score.

Reading didn't offer that much in the I second leg (after we had defended very well in the first), which wasn't about luck.

I think the luck was with Huddersfield today.

[Bin Ont Turf]

I think the luck was with Huddersfield today.

Why, Reading were sh1te?

[Ightenclaret]

Loved Thommo's reaction after his wonder volley- best goal he ever scored

[cricketfieldclarets]

A player (Bikey) known for being a bit scatty is nowt to do with luck.

Plymouth fans booking hotels had no bearing on what happened on the pitch.

Paterson and Thompson were still as far away a Messi and Ronaldo as could be in that game. If your players part like the Red Sea and let a player run 30-ish yards with the ball, there is always a chance he could score.

Reading didn't offer that much in the second leg (after we had defended very well in the first), which wasn't about luck.

Its the same degree of luck as stockport roughing us up.

[tim_noone]

Why, Reading were sh1te?

That's why Huddersfield were lucky! Silly billy

[dsr]

Loved Thommo's reaction after his wonder volley- best goal he ever scored

Oh, that Thommmo! I was wondering what Les had done, apart from being in the right place to be stamped on. Not that I'm downplaying that contribution.

[Dazzler]

Not sure if it was mentioned on tv but 3 out of 4 different divisional play-off wins by Huddersfield have come via penalty shoot out wins.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Well if you want, but Stockport were favourites who finished 12 points ahead of us and had taken 4 points from us.

They 'lost the plot' after looking very dangerous early on with 11 men.

[Bin Ont Turf]

That's why Huddersfield were lucky! Silly billy

A very different definition of lucky is what this silly billy has.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Both reading and sheff u finished above us in 2009. In fact reading were the best team we played away and had the best attack and defence in the league.

[chipbutty]

s much as I wanted Uddersfield to win today, they didn`t score a single goal in normal time of 3 play off games!

[Bin Ont Turf]

Both reading and sheff u finished above us in 2009. In fact reading were the best team we played away and had the best attack and defence in the league.

Where does the 'luck' come into it though?

If you saw all three matches back now you wouldn't say we were lucky to win them.

The Stockport one we were lucky in the sense that they lost the plot, but we may still have won if they kept 11 men on the pitch.

[minnieclaret]

If you saw all three matches back now you wouldn't say we were lucky to win them.

Reading were the better team first leg. we were lucky to win, thanks to Bikey.
He then was ruled out of the second leg which also helped.

[ClaretTony]

Reading were probably the best team we'd played all season but they'd collapsed at home and failed to win any of the eight previous games at the Madejski. Otherwise they'd have gone up automatically with Wolves.

[Dyched]

9/10 Thompsons and Patos goals would of missed. Wade was lucky the ball rolled in his path rather than 3 yards either side. It all coukd of been different. But so could all the chances we missed in the final. We could all so easily of won 3/4-0 with abit of luck.

[Dark Cloud]

Funnily enough there was a thread on here recently about the second leg match at Reading, but that threw up a link to the first leg at the Turf and I watched it. I was there that day, but seeing the highlights again I found myself muttering how lucky we were because Reading really did have quite a few good chances and messed up and we also cleared off the line, JUST. Our penalty for us to win it came out of the blue.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Carlisle and caldwell were heroic in those 3 games.

3 clean sheets in a season letting in loads of goals. Thwarting Reading who bagged for fun.