Incident in London

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:39 pm

The lights are on, but there is no one at home.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:40 pm

Peter Yeung: "One witness tells me he saw police shooting into Brindisa Tapas bar at Borough Market #LondonBridge"
https://twitter.com/ptr_yeung/status/871130713587929089" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That would explain the earlier linked twitter video showing police directing customers at a bar to get on the floor.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:40 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Apologies for my glib response mate, I really don't mean to make light of this issue. We all want a safer more peaceful world to live in I just wish the answer was simple, but it's not.

That said, I really do wish we had a better foreign policy than we currently have.

No problem. I didnt take it the wrong way. I am just ****** right off with this **** now! Like us all.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:43 pm

Friend of mine just posted this on my status. Interesting.

'I was at blackfriars tube station yesterday, the only one with armed police I saw in the ones I visited yesterday. Went to it this morning and it was closed, nearest open was embankment, they knew something was coming just not where. Our 9 year old was worried before we went after manchester but we saw the lion king and went to camden and london zoo. **** em. They will not win'
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paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:43 pm

What solution do you suggest Imploding Turtle ?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:45 pm

Jesus, not much fun reading the Metropolitan Police twitter feed at the moment.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:45 pm

paulatky wrote:What solution do you suggest Imploding Turtle ?

Something other than making it worse.

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:46 pm

Third incident in Vauxhall

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:47 pm

3rd incident now at vauxhall

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:47 pm

Such as what,Imploding Turtle.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:48 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Something other than making it worse.

Get the white handkerchiefs out and the sandals on?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:49 pm

Western looking man arrested now.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:49 pm

Calm down and put the kettle on in times of trouble.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:49 pm

paulatky wrote:Such as what,Imploding Turtle.

I don't have a solution. What's your solution?

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:50 pm

Multiple incidents are appearing.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:50 pm

Horrendous just got hold of my younger brother who lives in London who thankfully is on way home and is safe.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:51 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Friend of mine just posted this on my status. Interesting.

'I was at blackfriars tube station yesterday, the only one with armed police I saw in the ones I visited yesterday. Went to it this morning and it was closed, nearest open was embankment, they knew something was coming just not where. Our 9 year old was worried before we went after manchester but we saw the lion king and went to camden and london zoo. **** em. They will not win'
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Hi cfc, some of the central London tubes are closed at w/ends - not required when most of the people who use them work in the city. I don't know whether this is the case for Blackfriars tube, but that would be my first assumption on a Saturday morning.

OffTheBar · Post by **OffTheBar** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:51 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Peter Yeung: "One witness tells me he saw police shooting into Brindisa Tapas bar at Borough Market #LondonBridge"
https://twitter.com/ptr_yeung/status/871130713587929089" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That would explain the earlier linked twitter video showing police directing customers at a bar to get on the floor.

That bar in the video is probably less than 100 yards from the tapas bar.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:52 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Multiple incidents are appearing.

It's as if they're trying to stretch the police thin across multiple scenes. That's assuming all three are connected. Vauxhall might not be but only because it's not confirmed as related.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:52 pm

Police leading on these incidents apparently, intelligence services taken by surprise with this.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:53 pm

Has anyone considered other incidents may be reactionary incidents? We really shouldn't speculate at this time

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:53 pm

Police say more than one fatality at London Bridge

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:54 pm

More then one person dead.

JayMeStar · Post by **JayMeStar** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:54 pm

Stop.

I'd like to get off, please.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:54 pm

If meddling in other countries' affairs was a predictor of where terrorism comes from, we'd be seeing lots of Australian, Indian, South African, Jamaican, Canadian, American and Zimbabwean terror on the streets. We aren't. There are better predictors.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:55 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Horrendous just got hold of my younger brother who lives in London who thankfully is on way home and is safe.

Liekwise my sister is there with two kids. She has replied saying all OK she is in outskirts. But that doesnt exactly make it any better. Vauxhalls hardly centre.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:55 pm

They are being reported by the Met Police twitter feed.

Its about as accurate as anything can be at the moment.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:56 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Hi cfc, some of the central London tubes are closed at w/ends - not required when most of the people who use them work in the city. I don't know whether this is the case for Blackfriars tube, but that would be my first assumption on a Saturday morning.

Yeah I thought the same. But the fact it was the only one with armed police that jumped out.

LongsideFacingUp · Post by **LongsideFacingUp** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:56 pm

paulatky wrote:What solution do you suggest Imploding Turtle ?

Personally I think we should increase immigration from Syria, Iraq, Libya and parts of North Africa to show ISIS just how 'not racist' we are.

That'll show em.

ten bellies · Post by **ten bellies** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:56 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Missing the point ten bellies.

Locking people up because you suspect they might be dangerous is very, very, very shaky ground.

Specific threat, yeah, no problem, lock them up

He doesn't like the west? Hmmm, not a reason to lock up

How a specific threat is determined would be interesting to debate. However, it is a regular refrain that these murderous individuals have been of interest to the security services, yet they still get the opportunity to murder. I'm not suggesting rounding up everyone who walks on the cracks in the pavement. What I am suggesting is those who are clearly unhappy living in a relatively democratic, free, secular society, perhaps should be encouraged to leave or be locked up. The shaky ground you speak of, I would suggest, is a belief system which murders innocent people going about their every day business, whether such crimes are carried out by governments or individuals.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:56 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:I was at a slighted abbey (Hugomond in Shropshire) yesterday as well Bin on turf.

Only took him a couple of years to destroy centuries of work, and its amazing just how much has actually survived.

Anyway, in a purely historical context, it didn't work, just drove it underground and after a couple of centuries we all got a bit more enlightened about this kind of thing.

Well, some of us did....

Sorry I missed this.

Haughmond Abbey?

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:57 pm

thatdberight wrote:If meddling in other countries' affairs was a predictor of where terrorism comes from, we'd be seeing lots of Australian, Indian, South African, Jamaican, Canadian, American and Zimbabwean terror on the streets. We aren't. There are better predictors.

That comparison is irrelevant for obvious reasons.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:58 pm

Yeah, thats the one.

Never been before, but very impressive (not a fountains or a furness but even so)

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:58 pm

paulatky wrote:What solution do you suggest Imploding Turtle ?

He never ever offers solutions

Just sits there sniping at anybody who does.

Then signs out and signs in again as a different poster name to make look as though there's more than one idiot with his f***** stupid appeasement chimp viewpoint.

USC · Post by **USC** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:59 pm

LongsideFacingUp wrote:Personally I think we should increase immigration from Syria, Iraq, Libya and parts of North Africa to show ISIS just how 'not racist' we are. That'll show em.

D1ck.

These incidents show how much we need our highly trained police force. It infuriates me how much the Tories have cut our public services (including police), yet people think they are the party of "law and order".

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:59 pm

Turtle,I dont think you should be so vocal in criticising other peoples views if you dont have a solution yourself.
We need to do something .

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:59 pm

South West Claret. wrote:That comparison is irrelevant for obvious reasons.

So you say.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:00 am

Ten bellies, which is essentially what I said.

Locking people up because they worship Islam or don't like the West isn't on, locking people up who are on facebook or TV going "I'm going to kill you all" is perfectly fine (and probably legal as well)

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:01 am

Sounds like the perpetrators are on the loose.

LongsideFacingUp · Post by **LongsideFacingUp** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:01 am

USC wrote:D1ck.

These incidents show how much we need our highly trained police force. It infuriates me how much the Tories have cut our public services (including police), yet people think they are the party of "law and order".

Yes.

The Tories are to blame.

It's those horrible zero hours contracts that basically force people to blow up children.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:02 am

thatdberight wrote:So you say.

So I do.. your turn.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:02 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:He never ever offers solutions

Just sits there sniping at anybody who does.

Then signs out and signs in again as a different poster name to make look as though there's more than one idiot with his f***** stupid appeasement chimp viewpoint.

If something makes a problem worse then it isn't a solution.

And in case you're struggling with the meaning of "solution", here's some help.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:02 am

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:02 am

Gives you a clue how twitchy it must be down there

https://twitter.com/PintsandPyro/status ... 9031824386" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

USC · Post by **USC** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:02 am

LongsideFacingUp wrote:The Tories are to blame. It's those horrible zero hours contracts that basically force people to blow up children.

D1ck.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:03 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Yeah I thought the same. But the fact it was the only one with armed police that jumped out.

Not sure why your friend only saw armed police at Blackfriars tube - on Friday, if I've got that right. Armed police have been patrolling all the major London rail stations since 2005, if not earlier. I was heading down to Bank tube earlier this year, mid-morning, I was met by two armed police with their automatic weapons coming up the steps towards me. There is high visibility policy. Regrettably, it is needed.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:03 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Yeah, thats the one.

Never been before, but very impressive (not a fountains or a furness but even so)

It's weird to say because they'd look a lot better as they were when they were built, but I do love a ruined Abbey.

Fountains is one of my favourite places in the country. Too beautiful for words.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:03 am

LongsideFacingUp wrote:Yes.

The Tories are to blame.

It's those horrible zero hours contracts that basically force people to blow up children.

Another irrelevant post.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:03 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Sounds like the perpetrators are on the loose.

They have been for a while.. And will continue to be so.

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:04 am

It's time the country woke up and realised we are at war, changing Facebook profile pictures isn't making this go away.

It's clearly not a time for politics but the last think we need is weak leadership.