Cheick Tiote - collapsed and dies during training in China.
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Cheick Tiote - collapsed and dies during training in China.
Rumours circulating that he's collapsed at training in China and he's passed away.
Still waiting for official confirmation though.
Still waiting for official confirmation though.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
Nothing reported properly yet. Express.co.uk are, embarrassingly, reporting on twitter rumours.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
Demba Ba saying he has and Tim Hague from the BBC.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
FFS this is becoming all too common a theme especially with African players.
Is it the rigours of modern training or a genetic issue or combination of those and other factors?
Terrible.
Is it the rigours of modern training or a genetic issue or combination of those and other factors?
Terrible.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
I'm just having this chat about African players being the only ones we can recall.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
There've been a few non-african players who have died on the pitch or in this way. But i wouldn't be too surprised if there was a higher instance of it happening to players from poorer countries since they're less likely to have received the kind of healthcare that could have foresaw things like heart problems as youngsters.Sidney1st wrote:I'm just having this chat about African players being the only ones we can recall.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Puerta" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - the only non african one I can recall
Very sad about Tiote.
Very sad about Tiote.
Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
Very sad news. Whilst I'm aware it might be a bit insensitive to speculate on the cause of death; following on from some of the other comments, it's thought that Africans have a greater genetic predisposition to cardiac arrest. It has been shown in studies, but it is still unknown exactly why that is the case.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
BBC reporting his death now - v sad
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
Awful news - just 30
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
Crikey, that's terrible. Rest in peace.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and dies during training in China.
Sad news..only 30,he was an excellent footballer...RIP Cheick.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
Hi IT, there was a young English cricketer who discovered he had heart problems last season. I'm not sure we can assign health issues to sports persons from poorer countries. It is certain that there is a lot more child mortality in poorer/less developed nations - none of these survive long enough to become sports persons.Imploding Turtle wrote:There've been a few non-african players who have died on the pitch or in this way. But i wouldn't be too surprised if there was a higher instance of it happening to players from poorer countries since they're less likely to have received the kind of healthcare that could have foresaw things like heart problems as youngsters.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and dies during training in China.
He was a good player at Newcastle, tragic for one so young.
Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and dies during training in China.
I think there were one or two small rumours about him joining us either the season just gone or the season before.
Very sad news and at such a young age.
RIP
Very sad news and at such a young age.
RIP
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
Paul Waine wrote:Hi IT, there was a young English cricketer who discovered he had heart problems last season. I'm not sure we can assign health issues to sports persons from poorer countries. It is certain that there is a lot more child mortality in poorer/less developed nations - none of these survive long enough to become sports persons.
I'm not sure you understood my post.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and dies during training in China.
Really shocked to hear this. The lad was still basically in his prime and was an absolute powerhouse of a midfielder. So sad RIP.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and dies during training in China.
RIP Cheik.
my cousin is married to a guy of Indian descent, on both sides. Only in his 40s he has had a heart attack and 3, similar aged, friends have died of heart attacks whilst playing 5 aside. Another mate of mine of half Indian descent has had a heart attack also. He, thankfully, survived. Racial DNA could very well be a cause.
my cousin is married to a guy of Indian descent, on both sides. Only in his 40s he has had a heart attack and 3, similar aged, friends have died of heart attacks whilst playing 5 aside. Another mate of mine of half Indian descent has had a heart attack also. He, thankfully, survived. Racial DNA could very well be a cause.
Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and dies during training in China.
Its on sky sports news
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Also Daniel Jarque (sp?)duncandisorderly wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Puerta - the only non african one I can recall
Very sad about Tiote.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
Maybe, maybe not.Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm not sure you understood my post.
I believe you were responding to previous post re African (heritage) players suffering heart/health problems - and saying that it has also happened to non-African players. You then mentioned healthcare in poorer countries. (I've abbreviated...).
Did I get that right?
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and dies during training in China.
Sort of.
I'm saying that if there are more instances of players from poorer countries dropping dead due to undiagnosed heart conditions its probably because they're the types of players who are less likely for it to have been diagnosed in their youth, as opposed to Africans being more likely to have those heart conditions.
If you're in a more wealthy country during your upbringing then you're more likely to be diagnosed and have it fixed, or just told you can't play professional football.
That's only one possible explanation though. There'll be others I'm sure.
I'm saying that if there are more instances of players from poorer countries dropping dead due to undiagnosed heart conditions its probably because they're the types of players who are less likely for it to have been diagnosed in their youth, as opposed to Africans being more likely to have those heart conditions.
If you're in a more wealthy country during your upbringing then you're more likely to be diagnosed and have it fixed, or just told you can't play professional football.
That's only one possible explanation though. There'll be others I'm sure.
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
Yes, I was about to mention Daniel Jarque. He played for Espanyol and died at the age of 26. There's a statue in his honour inside Espanyol's stadium.Greenmile wrote:Also Daniel Jarque (sp?)
Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and dies during training in China.
Chuco Benitez died in a similar way I believe, former Birmingham Colombian player. I'm sure we were actually linked with Tiote last summer. Sad news
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and possibly died.
Few years ago now but not Africanduncandisorderly wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Puerta - the only non african one I can recall
Very sad about Tiote.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Longhurst" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Yes we were linked last season. Remember it being mentioned.
Was a very good player. And seemingly an equally great character.
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Was a very good player. And seemingly an equally great character.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/08/25/re ... y-burnley/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Cheick Tiote - collapsed and dies during training in China.
Joey Barton has written a tribute in today's Times. (Paywall - so I don't have link).
Joey reports: "With a new player coming in, especially in central midfield, I stuck a hard tackle in on him in the first training session. He came back not just with one but a few of his own. I thought, 'Great, you'll do for us.' It was clear straightaway that his fee £3.5 was very well spent.... meant me going out to right midfield but I wasn't going to complain when we had Chieck providing so much in the middle."
Possible that Joey was involved in trying to get Tiote to the Clarets.
Rest in Peace, young man.
Joey reports: "With a new player coming in, especially in central midfield, I stuck a hard tackle in on him in the first training session. He came back not just with one but a few of his own. I thought, 'Great, you'll do for us.' It was clear straightaway that his fee £3.5 was very well spent.... meant me going out to right midfield but I wasn't going to complain when we had Chieck providing so much in the middle."
Possible that Joey was involved in trying to get Tiote to the Clarets.
Rest in Peace, young man.