Dyche ------->Palace

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:06 pm

Sean Dyche has been great for Burnley and Burnley have been great for Sean Dyche. I hope he's here for some considerable time yet. If he was/is on a 12 month rolling contract he'll always be able to talk to other clubs should he choose to, I assume. I think Sean has brought us level with the likes of Crystal Palace and so this would only be a sideways move that he would only take if he felt he'd taken us as far as he can and wanted a new challenge and change of environment. He did move around quite a bit as a player.
Not even thinking of a possible successor as Burnley Football Club already have a manager.
Come on Sean, time to bring your first transfer target of the summer to the club, which will help to settle the nerves of a few supporters.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:07 pm

And his summer transfer budget.

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:12 pm

Budget is healthy for dyche this summer and I suspect we will break our transfer record fee again this summer if not once then twice. With this being the matter don't expect early signings. The players we are after will take a long summer to convince to come here.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:25 pm

CFS wrote:Budget is healthy for dyche this summer and I suspect we will break our transfer record fee again this summer if not once then twice. With this being the matter don't expect early signings. The players we are after will take a long summer to convince to come here.

It would be interesting to compare palace budget against Burnley's

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:00 pm

And to compare their balance sheets. You never know when the banks will start to get twitchy again.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:02 pm

Comparing the books of both clubs would probably indicate that we are best organised for a potential drop and return should it happen. Palace would implode with their wage bill

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:10 pm

Been away for a while. Is dyche tempted? Has he issued a 'I'm going nowhere'..? He would be a seamless replacement for Sam IMO.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:50 pm

Saxoman wrote:Been away for a while. Is dyche tempted? Has he issued a 'I'm going nowhere'..? He would be a seamless replacement for Sam IMO.

Nope.. he is not filling the current CP vacancy you can take it from me.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:50 am

He is Burnley.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:01 am

Now 11 pages. On nothing of substance

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:17 am

NRC wrote:Now 11 pages. On nothing of substance

The break between seasons can have that effect on some football fans NRC, it's that craving for any snippet of information true or not... I know I used to suffer the same way

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:53 am

According to the independent report (via palace message board), 4 men are being interviewed for the palace job- 3 are schimdt, pellergino and dyche. The other being a 'veteran European coach' (Ranieri maybe?).
Interesting if true that Dyche represents the only British coach.

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:07 am

I would be surprised if Dyche put himself in the position of a 1 in 4 chance of success. A straight offer of 'its yours,' no competitive process, is a different proposition. If he goes against the other three and fails, his situation at Burnley changes massively. He will have to watch his back as
soon as he has a prolonged bad patch. I don't think he is a risk taker.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:19 am

COBBLE wrote:I would be surprised if Dyche put himself in the position of a 1 in 4 chance of success. A straight offer of 'its yours,' no competitive process, is a different proposition. If he goes against the other three and fails, his situation at Burnley changes massively. He will have to watch his back as soon as he has a prolonged bad patch. I don't think he is a risk taker.

If Independent is correct and Sean Dyche is one of 3 or 4 candidates being interviewed for Palace, I've no problem with this. And, I don't think it would be Dyche's style to not want to compete with other good candidates.

If Board have given permission for SD to be interviewed by CP then that's good. If SD is not selected by CP then I would want him to continue with Burnley. He will continue to do his best for us...and Burnley will continue to progress. I don't think a demonstration of his own ambitions are in any way a negative for his position while he remains at Burnley.

Would love to see his updated powerpoint presentation: "What I've achieved in (almost) 5 seasons at Burnley - and how I achieved it."

Would love it more to read in his autobiography: "What I achieved in my 30 seasons at Burnley - and how we became Champions of Europe."

UTC

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:59 am

Good Championship Manager - 11th, 2nd and 1st
Poor Premier League Manager - 19th and 16th

If he doesn't go to Palace I'd get rid of him anyway and find someone who can win away.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:07 am

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Good Championship Manager - 11th, 2nd and 1st
Poor Premier League Manager - 19th and 16th

If he doesn't go to Palace I'd get rid of him anyway and find someone who can win away.

Stirrer.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:09 am

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Good Championship Manager - 11th, 2nd and 1st
Poor Premier League Manager - 19th and 16th

If he doesn't go to Palace I'd get rid of him anyway and find someone who can win away.

Oh you rascal.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:22 am

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Good Championship Manager - 11th, 2nd and 1st
Poor Premier League Manager - 19th and 16th

If he doesn't go to Palace I'd get rid of him anyway and find someone who can win away.

Clearly an attention seeker or a wet spam follower.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:27 am

COBBLE wrote:I would be surprised if Dyche put himself in the position of a 1 in 4 chance of success. A straight offer of 'its yours,' no competitive process, is a different proposition. .

4 candidates doesn't necessarily mean a 1 in 4 chance of success.
If you, me, one other and Usain Bolt were to run the 100 metres, would we both have a 1 in 4 chance? (We might - arguably - have a 1 in 3 chance of finishing 2nd, but even then,I'm very slow, so I would rate my chances below that).
Only he,(and his agent), can look at the potential field and weigh up the odds.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:28 am

boatshed bill wrote:It would be interesting to compare palace budget against Burnley's

If anyone saw the really insightful Steve Parish interview after our game, then i think they'd agree that CP will be reining in the spending this summer after spunking 40 mill+ In January. That's the impression I got anyway.

I honestly don't think we have a problem paying transfer fees. They're just a number. It's attracting the players we want and the commitment to wages that's the stumbling point.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:29 am

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Good Championship Manager - 11th, 2nd and 1st
Poor Premier League Manager - 19th and 16th

If he doesn't go to Palace I'd get rid of him anyway and find someone who can win away.

Gone phishing!

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:35 am

It's all made up by the indpendent, very carefully chosen words,

"Crystal Palace have begun conducting interviews over their managerial vacancy, with Roger Schmidt and Mauricio Pellegrino among those scheduled for talks this week, and Sean Dyche on Palace's radar."

Why is SD not among those scheduled and only on their radar.

"Dyche is keen to take over at Selhurst Park and has just returned from holiday, but has been slightly put out by Palace's reluctance to firm up their initial interest into a solid offer. "

Seriously, how do they know he's keen. Do they honestly believe SD has been "put out" while on holiday because he has to go through an interview process and he's certainly not arrogant enough to think he should be offered the job because he's the only candidate which is what the article is suggesting.

Very poor reporting IMO.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:42 am

Nothing much to worry about.If Dyche goes we get Pellegrino!

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:48 am

boatshed bill wrote:Nothing much to worry about.If Dyche goes we get Pellegrino!

At least we'd have the best bottled water in the Premier League, maybe we could even change sponsors to appease the anti gambling brigade.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:50 am

Zaha and Townsend aren't SD type players so if he does go, and I hope not, could we do a straight swap for Scotty and George?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:50 am

Firthy wrote:At least we'd have the best bottled water in the Premier League

We do now - tap water is excellent in this area

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:54 am

Having talks this week according to Croydon Advertiser. The silence on our side is deafening. The longer the uncertainty goes on it will hamper our plans for the season. Hopefully the club are thinking about replacements and not just hoping he doesn't go.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:56 am

Or Ranieri? I like him

Grimsdale · Post by **Grimsdale** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:58 am

Where does it say he's having talks this week?

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:01 am

Blackrod wrote:Having talks this week according to Croydon Advertiser. The silence on our side is deafening. The longer the uncertainty goes on it will hamper our plans for the season. Hopefully the club are thinking about replacements and not just hoping he doesn't go.

Not sure that there's anything the club can do or say, whilst he remains our manager, and if we should happen to be looking at possible replacements and it gets out, then I think that Dyche would have a case for constructive dismissal, which presumably would jeopardise our chances of getting any compensation.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:05 am

I'd like to think SD will make a decision very quickly then we can move on.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:16 pm

Dyche now out to 9/4 with sky, Woy has come in to 5/2. It's a long way from done yet!!

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:21 pm

I think I'll stick a tenner on me and see what The Independent has to say about that.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:27 pm

Hodgson now 6/5 for those who entertain the markets on these.

As a guide though, contact one of these sites and ask what price Dyche for Palace job and you want to put 5k on it. They will refuse the bet, offer you £100 or so at a price then make him favourite again.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:28 pm

Dyche is staying at turf moor. It's a no brainer.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:32 pm

tim_noone wrote:Dyche is staying at turf moor. It's a no brainer.

Why? Hasn't he got a home to go to

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:34 pm

Firthy wrote:Why? Hasn't he got a home to go to

B'dum tish!

MiltonKeynesClaret93 · Post by **MiltonKeynesClaret93** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:56 pm

Blackrod wrote:Having talks this week according to Croydon Advertiser. The silence on our side is deafening. The longer the uncertainty goes on it will hamper our plans for the season. Hopefully the club are thinking about replacements and not just hoping he doesn't go.

Think the headline was ''hoping to have talks'', they've lined up a few suitors though.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:02 pm

Didn't the palace chairman say they want a manager who will build the club long term & not use them as a stepping stone to further their career. If so how can a 70 year old man like Hodgson be the favourite? Goes against his statement surely..

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:18 pm

'...Clarets on red alert over Dyche!...'

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ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:22 pm

claretblue wrote:'...Clarets on red alert over Dyche!...'

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That's from yesterday morning

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:25 pm

Out to 7/2 now

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:26 pm

Out to 7/2 now

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:26 pm

When he goes,and it's inevitable,let's hope we can uncover another gem who can give us another five years or more of success just like Dyche did,as much as I like Dyche I would like to see someone else take us to the next level,who it will be who know's

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:28 pm

forgive my ignorance, but does 7/2 mean he's favourite to go? I dont get betting odds

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:30 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:forgive my ignorance, but does 7/2 mean he's favourite to go? I dont get betting odds

No, yesterday he was 4/5 in non betting terms you could say yesterday for him to go to Palace it would happen 5 times out of 9, now it would happen only 2 times in 9

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:36 pm

He will definitely not fill the CP vacancy this time.. got it

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:09 pm

Looks like Schmidt is coming up on the rails, betting wise!

Sarf · Post by **Sarf** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:10 pm

Hi, Palace fan here, just seeing what you think of the Dyche rumours.

First of all I think Dyche is a fantastic manager and he would be a pretty good fit for us, but I don't see it. The links have come from our historic appointments and yeah historically Dyche would be exactly the type of manager Parish would be after. However historically we've made these types of appointment mid season. Parish now has the opportunity to appointment before preseason and I reckon this new situation will be (hopefully) reflected in the appointment.

As far as the odds have done, a few days ago we were nailed on for Monk, Moyes, Hodgson and SIlva so shows what good indications those are. I believe the same person reporting what Dyche has apparently said was the same person that said we were in for Silva, which we quite clearly weren't as when we were apparently talking to Silva in London, Parish was in Mallorca talking to Zaha.

(as a slight aside, I'm interested in were Parish gets his "difficult to deal with" persona comes from? Also, I wouldn't say we're particularly trigger happy with our managers, only Pardew and Burley have been sacked, Holloway mutual consent and Warnock doesn't count...the rest left)

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:That's from yesterday morning

that bloody paper boy....I'll kill him!