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by dsr » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:03 pm
Wile E Coyote wrote:hope dyche isnt interested and this is all cobblers, but why would palace want hodgson ? I wouldnt want him at the turf under any circs.
Possibly because they can't get Dyche?

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by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:05 pm
Wile E Coyote wrote:hope dyche isnt interested and this is all cobblers, but why would palace want hodgson ? I wouldnt want him at the turf under any circs.
If you read the Palace chairman they don't - I think it's more that he's from Croydon
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by kentonclaret » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:16 pm
If Palace don't want Hodgson Sean Dyche would be a long odds on favourite for the post with Woy out of the equation.
If Garlick fails to convince Sean to stay hopefully he will have some suitable candidates in mind.
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by jrgbfc » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:17 pm
dsr wrote:Possibly because they can't get Dyche?

Hodgson has achieved much more in club management than Dyche has or is ever likely to. Getting Fulham to the Uefa cup final not that long ago? Managing Inter Milan?
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by Sarf » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:35 pm
It's all rubbish.
The Palace Manager market is so small, you could fart in it's general directions and the odds would change.
We get linked with Hodgson whenever we're looking to get a new manager in because he came from our youth team all those millennia ago.
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by Wile E Coyote » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:36 pm
has it become clear anywhere that dyche is actually holding talks with palace ?
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by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:43 pm
Wile E Coyote wrote:has it become clear anywhere that dyche is actually holding talks with palace ?
No - just press speculation - it's just the concern that there might not be smoke without fire
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by Firthy » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:45 pm
Wile E Coyote wrote:has it become clear anywhere that dyche is actually holding talks with palace ?
No, all the crap about him being keen and put out because he hasn't been offered the job is pure speculation based on an article in The Independent.
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by kentonclaret » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:03 pm
The betting market is crazy SD now 11/4 ON with Paddy Power.
Either somebody stuck £50 on SD or PP think they know something is happening.
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by Juan Tanamera » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:10 pm
Anyone ever wondered why most owners of the big betting companies are muti millionaires and most punters aren't?
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by kentonclaret » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:19 pm
FOBT"S in betting shops and Wings Of Eagles winning the Epsom Derby at 40/1?
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by lancastrian » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:26 pm
Dyce has been an excellent manager there is no doubt about that. However the Chairman should ascertain from SD whether or not there is any truth in these rumours and if so the Chairman should accept this as SD's notice in lieu. That would certainly concentrate minds.
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by Duffer_ » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:36 pm
Gone out to 17/10 on Paddy Power with Pellegrino odds on.
UTC!
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by Firthy » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:43 pm
Odds are all over the place, they haven't a clue.
Currently:
Paddypower: Pellegrino 8/15 Dyche 17/10 Hodgson 5/1
Betway: Hodgson 6/5 Dyche 15/8 Pellegrino 10/1
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by SE25 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:49 pm
Don't worry Burnley fans, I've been told by a very good source it's gonna be Pellegrino, so you can all relax.
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by Juan Tanamera » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:54 pm
Pellegrino Dyche?
Never heard of him.
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by DCWat » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:55 pm
SE25 wrote:Don't worry Burnley fans, I've been told by a very good source it's gonna be Pellegrino, so you can all relax.
I like Pellegrino. Always comes across as a decent and respectful sort of fellow. I'll like him even more of this is true

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by Firthy » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:58 pm
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by SE25 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:58 pm
Juan Tanamera wrote:Pellegrino Dyche?
Never heard of him.
His a football manager.
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by Juan Tanamera » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:00 pm
SE25 wrote:His a football manager.
Never!
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by Colburn_Claret » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:01 pm
I don't see why SD should have to openly deny media stories that have no substance. In football these happen practically every hour, never mind each day. They escalate in the silly season, between the end of season and the opening of the transfer window. Papers get filled with crap all the time, it would be tiresome to have to react to each one. I'm sure SD and the board take it with a pinch of salt. It's only some of the fans who PANIC.......
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by SE25 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:04 pm
Juan Tanamera wrote:Never!
Yeah honest.
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by SE25 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:10 pm
From what I was told today, Palace haven't even spoke to Dyche, just inquired through his agent to see if he would be interested.
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by Wile E Coyote » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:21 pm
good if that's the case, business as usual then . Next stop total annihilation of shamrock rovers !!!! utc.
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by ontario claret » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:54 pm
Another thing I don't get. The requirement to "interview" for a manager's job. Haven't these guys already had everything done to them except have their butt hole examined by your national media already?
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by randomclaret2 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:20 pm
I think Sean's more of PowerPoint man, but if a rectal examination is needed then so be it..!
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by randomclaret2 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:23 pm
Incidentally Pellegrino would be interesting . I wonder if his chum Pardew will call to offer the old **** his congratulations ?
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by Tall Paul » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:41 pm
randomclaret2 wrote:Incidentally Pellegrino would be interesting . I wonder if his chum Pardew will call to offer the old **** his congratulations ?
Old? He's 45.
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by dpinsussex » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:47 pm
Juan Tanamera wrote:Pellegrino Dyche?
Never heard of him.
I thought he was a fizzy pop orange flavoured especially for the palarse chairman
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by Paul Waine » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:29 pm
ontario claret wrote:Another thing I don't get. The requirement to "interview" for a manager's job. Haven't these guys already had everything done to them except have their butt hole examined by your national media already?
Hi Ontario, really? If I was ever in the position of appointing a football manager I'd want a very deep and detailed conversation with him (or her) before I'd make the appointment. I'd want to know what had been going on "behind the scenes" in a club when the manager did X or Y. Was a player injured when the manager left him out of the team? or was something else going on? How does the manager handle all the "not in the public domain" stuff? How good are his "support staff." What does he see as the opportunities and challenges for "my" team? Does he have the ambition that we want from our manager?
I'm sure there are great journalists who can find out a few things. But, managers and clubs have their own PR/agents - and the ability to spin. And, what the journalists report will also be based on what the customers will "want to buy" and what will grow the revenue of the media outlet. (Which is why all these "rumours" are reported).
So, Sean may need to work on his powerpoints and check that he can still touch his toes...

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by lrac » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:52 pm
Got a bad feeling .I think he will go .if offered the job .I hope I am wrong .utc
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by Wile E Coyote » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:37 am
there'd be nothing wrong with a press conference whereby sean dyche states categorically that he is committed to Burnley FC.
The club are well aware of the debates and doubts, for the forthcoming season, and with loyalty being a virtue in the minds of football supporters, it would be a worthy gesture to kick start the pre season optimism.
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by dsr » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:51 am
Wile E Coyote wrote:there'd be nothing wrong with a press conference whereby sean dyche states categorically that he is committed to Burnley FC.
The club are well aware of the debates and doubts, for the forthcoming season, and with loyalty being a virtue in the minds of football supporters, it would be a worthy gesture to kick start the pre season optimism.
There would be something wrong with it - he'd be lying. Just like Michael Keane, he's committed to Burnley only until a job he likes better comes along. There are various reasons why that won't be Crystal Palace, but he isn't committed. If Barcelona offer him the manager's job, he'll go; if Elgin City offer him the job, he won't; but somewhere between those impossible extremes, there are jobs he would take. Our hope is that there aren't many of them, and he won't be offered them.
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by Grimsdale » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:51 am
SE25 wrote:From what I was told today, Palace haven't even spoke to Dyche, just inquired through his agent to see if he would be interested.
From what I can gather, I don't think Dyche is even in the country at the moment (still on holiday with his family in the States) so I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't had any direct contact with Palace.
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by Quicknick » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:30 am
Grimsdale wrote:From what I can gather, I don't think Dyche is even in the country at the moment (still on holiday with his family in the States) so I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't had any direct contact with Palace.
Mobile phones.
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by IndigoLake » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:35 am
I've only just realised that you're all talking about Pellegrino, not Pellegrini.
Lol.
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by Rick_Muller » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:24 am
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Pellegrino is understood to still be in talks with the Selhurst Park outfit as they look to narrow their search to a final two. Sean Dyche and Roger Schmidt have also been spoken to, while former Saint-Etienne manager Christophe Galtier is also thought to be in London with a view to talking to the club.
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by Sutton-Claret » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:26 am
IndigoLake wrote:I've only just realised that you're all talking about Pellegrino, not Pellegrini.
Lol.
I made the same mistake

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by IndigoLake » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:32 am
Sutton-Claret wrote:I made the same mistake

It was TallPaul's post that tipped me off! He said: "Old? He's 45."
That made me type in Pellegrino on Google as I remembered him being at least 60 odd (oldest looking 45 year old ever perhaps?). Alas, I found myself looking at a completely different person. It was then that it dawned on me

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by Commy » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:15 am
You think the person who is 'tight as a ducks arse' where transfer info relates will tell the press he is interested?
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by SE25 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:37 pm
Dyche is 1-7 on betfair. I hope my information was right.
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by Tall Paul » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:02 pm
Betfair exchange odds are an even worse indicator than bookies odds when there is so little money in the market. It only takes one random person to offer silly odds and that becomes the line.
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by Wile E Coyote » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:03 pm
Pellegrino is understood to still be in talks with the Selhurst Park outfit as they look to narrow their search to a final two. Sean Dyche and Roger Schmidt have also been spoken to, while former Saint-Etienne manager Christophe Galtier is also thought to be in London with a view to talking to the club.
Hope those talks went " Hello Sean , Crystal Palace here, .have you got a moment to chat"
SEAN "No, sod off"
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by ClaretAndJew » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:08 pm
6/4 on Betway now
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by RocketLawnChair » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:10 pm
Wile E Coyote wrote:Pellegrino is understood to still be in talks with the Selhurst Park outfit as they look to narrow their search to a final two. Sean Dyche and Roger Schmidt have also been spoken to, while former Saint-Etienne manager Christophe Galtier is also thought to be in London with a view to talking to the club.
Hope those talks went " Hello Sean , Crystal Palace here, .have you got a moment to chat"
SEAN "No, sod off"
I haven't read all the 600 plus posts Wile, Have we given Sean permission to speak to Palace ?
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by Wile E Coyote » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:34 pm
no idea rocket, just copied that first bit from a post up the page referring to Independent piece.
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by IAmAClaret » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:21 pm
Now down to 1/9 with PaddyPower and others

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