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Post by titsoutforthelads » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:52 pm

Thats not in the spirit of this thread lawnmower.

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Post by martin_p » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:52 pm

I think the increase in political threads is a reflection on the fact that there's been an awful lot of politics in the last 12-18 months. Plus with it being close season they become more prominent with the inevitable decrease in football news. I think it's a good mix personally.
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Post by Paul Waine » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:54 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:i was just about to post something about magnetism through the ages !! drat, I shall have to save it for another time.
Now, that would have been a thread that would attract a lot to it.... ;)

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Post by randomclaret2 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:02 pm

Might be an idea to get anyone who wants to post/ continue to post on here to confirm they have read and understood Tony's guidelines, and are willing to abide by them on pain of being banned. Rather like a " terms and conditions " agreement. Some of the stuff on here recently, much of which , as Tony pointed out, has been removed has been beyond a joke, with posters being abused in extremely unpleasant fashion. Not everyone may be fully aware of exactly what has actually been said. I suspect we may all have our own idea of the chief culprit but at least if every one if us were to signal we would abide to the guidelines there could be no complaints if failure so to do was sanctioned.

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Post by Paul Waine » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:10 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:I like the board the way it is. Yes, agreed, of late there have been some threads where there has been some animosity but also good discussion amongst all. It would be a detriment to the forum if moderation became more critical and severe, and I feel we would lose what a great medium we have for sharing ideas and thoughts. It is a football forum, but we all know that other issues are raised, discussed and advised upon and generally all is well, including the banter.
I also like the board, it's a bit like a visit to a pub (though you need to bring your own drinks). Lots of conversations about all sorts of topics. A lot of great posters and a great deal of knowledge about all sorts of things. For those of us who live away from N.E Lancs it is a great connection with "back home."

I can do without the "trolling behaviour" of one or two. Diversity of opinions is good, but with diversity should also come respect - even if there is a little banter from time to time. I wonder if the trolling would continue if membership of this board required us all to provide a recent, verified, photo of ourselves, taken with our Burnley shirt/scarves at a game?

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Post by titsoutforthelads » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:23 pm

Great idea Paul.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:27 pm

Would certainly weed one or two out, though it would be a shame to see Saxo go...

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:29 pm

Paul Waine wrote: I wonder if the trolling would continue if membership of this board required us all to provide a recent, verified, photo of ourselves, taken with our Burnley shirt/scarves at a game?

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Aye great idea, because the internet is just confined to just 30 ish miles surrounding Turf Moor.

That'd be all the North American Clarets gone, Australasian Clarets gone and sunshine Dave from the Indian Ocean gone.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:38 pm

yeah, bye then lol

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Post by Paul Waine » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:56 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Aye great idea, because the internet is just confined to just 30 ish miles surrounding Turf Moor.

That'd be all the North American Clarets gone, Australasian Clarets gone and sunshine Dave from the Indian Ocean gone.
Oops, sorry, that is bad of me to forget one of the greatest things about the board, our fans around the globe.

I'm about 250 miles away from t'Turf, btw.

OK. Photos (verified) of you watching a game on tv in a bar - with another football fan (the other guy doesn't need to be a claret). Bonus points, of course, for the "global" fans that can provide a photo at a game when Burnley are on tour, or when an international team is playing with a Burnley player gaining another international cap.

Bonus points, also, for inviting one or two of the home based fans to holiday with you from time to time. I know "davemanu" has made that offer to visit the beautiful island of Mauritius.

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Post by Paul Waine » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:59 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Would certainly weed one or two out, though it would be a shame to see Saxo go...
I've invited Saxo to join us all as a claret. Maybe he might not take that offer up this season, but let's see how Rovers get on in League 1... ;)

And, for the sake of inclusion, I'm prepared to accept someone in a half-and-half scarf. ;)

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:07 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Oops, sorry, that is bad of me to forget one of the greatest things about the board, our fans around the globe.

I'm about 250 miles away from t'Turf, btw.

OK. Photos (verified) of you watching a game on tv in a bar - with another football fan (the other guy doesn't need to be a claret). Bonus points, of course, for the "global" fans that can provide a photo at a game when Burnley are on tour, or when an international team is playing with a Burnley player gaining another international cap.

Bonus points, also, for inviting one or two of the home based fans to holiday with you from time to time. I know "davemanu" has made that offer to visit the beautiful island of Mauritius.

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All nice thoughts Paul.

But let's just keep the board to how it is, one board for all topics, Burnley related, football or otherwise. Then just ask the willy wavers, those that HAVE to have the last word, folk to look for a thread that they could put their 'samey' stuff in and for the self confessed troll(s) to be banned.

And we all lived happily ever after. 8-)

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Post by randomclaret2 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:07 pm

I think that's fair Paul...I just cant bear the thought of him driving round Shadsworth in his 20 year old Saxo, tears streaming down his little face, because he'd been stopped from talking to his mates on here.

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Post by ontario claret » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:13 pm

OK, Tony. Then you finally agree. Ban KRBFC.
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Post by willsclarets » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:30 pm

It must be a tough job trying to moderate this board, but it stems from it being a thriving bed of conversation about pretty much anything. The problem you have is because it's successful. Changing that in ways that restrict certain topics would diminish some of its charm and appeal I think. I see the problem, but agree with others that it isn't difficult to ignore the topics that aren't something you want to engage with. Duplicate threads can be a problem, but again the conversations always take different turns. It's like (a much sadder version of) two groups of people in a pub talking about the same thing, you'll always get different points of view. If it's a topic I'm interested in, I'll read both. No problem.
Personal abuse is a different thing, and repeating the same points of view in a game of "I'm cleverer than you" is tiresome. Self policing needs to be better, and where it's easy to shut someone up who's being a prat in a pub, it's more difficult one message board I accept. Moderaters can't do everything, perhaps there's something all of us could do like, "not engage with someone who's clearly seeking attention by being abusive or clearly provocative, like a child".

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Post by brunlea99 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:36 pm

ontario claret wrote:OK, Tony. Then you finally agree. Ban KRBFC.
There's no need to ban him or anyone else who you think may be a troll. A troll thrives on individuals who respond to his/her posts. If everyone ignored a troll then they would soon fade away. It never fails to amuse me the amount of people on this board who respond and then say ban him/her or whoever.

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Post by Steve1956 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:38 pm

The forum I left to join this one is talking about reducing its sub forums because lack of posters, leave it as it is and let the moderators moderate as they seem fit.. it works

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Post by Paul Waine » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:08 pm

Steve1956 wrote:The forum I left to join this one is talking about reducing its sub forums because lack of posters, leave it as it is and let the moderators moderate as they seem fit.. it works
Two good points. I guess in a few weeks time we will have all forgotten politics. ;)

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Post by bfcmik » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:27 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:i was just about to post something about magnetism through the ages !! drat, I shall have to save it for another time.
Shame I have to wait - I was quite attracted by that.
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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:22 am

Ban the football threads, nobody knows the first thing about it.
Keep the political stuff, the arguments are better than telly.
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Post by Corky » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:05 am

Interesting that Rowls, Imploding Turtle and Claret and Jew haven't felt the need to have some input to this thread. You could argue that to ban those three and a few others and the situation would all but resolve itself.

As it happens I do not mind the senseless drivel that is often associated with these political threads. I myself sometimes add a quick comment or one liner.

On balance I'd keep as is.

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Post by Dom » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:10 am

Corky wrote:Interesting that Rowls, Imploding Turtle and Claret and Jew haven't felt the need to have some input to this thread. You could argue that to ban those three and a few others and the situation would all but resolve itself.

As it happens I do not mind the senseless drivel that is often associated with these political threads. I myself sometimes add a quick comment or one liner.

On balance I'd keep as is.
Banning them won't do much as they'll come back under another alias and the cycle starts again, plus most people who are the cause of a lot of arguments do give valid opinions a lot of the time, I rarely agree with Rowls on anything but his points are coherent and add another viewpoint to the argument. Same with IT and C&J. Some posters do continually troll without adding anything to the board, them posters are on my ignore list. Not worth engaging with them.
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Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:12 am

Dom wrote:Banning them won't do much as they'll come back under another alias and the cycle starts again, plus most people who are the cause of a lot of arguments do give valid opinions a lot of the time, I rarely agree with Rowls on anything but his points are coherent and add another viewpoint to the argument. Same with IT and C&J. Some posters do continually troll without adding anything to the board, them posters are on my ignore list. Not worth engaging with them.
Good points well made as they say there Dom.
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Post by FactualFrank » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:22 am

nil_desperandum wrote:So, go on, how would you define what was political and what wasn't?. Some would be obvious but there would be some huge grey areas. How much time would mods have to spend determining whether a post could potentially become political.?
Let's take the Andre Gray thread (e.g.) earlier in the season concerning his tweets.
You lost me with 'So, go on'.

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Post by paulatky » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:57 am

I think this board provides a very important public service in giving a life to some who otherwise would be at a loss for something to do.
How some of the posters mentioned above can spend so much time on here amazes me.
Quite obviously they have no worthwhile jobs,family ,friends or other hobbies.
It very sad indeed in my opinion.
As others have pointed out they have not posted on this thread so I think even they know who this thread is aimed at.
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Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:05 am

Let's all talk about the new signings.

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Post by ontario claret » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:12 pm

Signings? Have there been signings? I thought the transfer window opened in July.

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Post by secessionman » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:28 am

The problem with split on/off topic boards is that people will more than likely head to their preferred board and never head to the other. So many boards split such have one very active board and a desert as the other.

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Post by pushpinpussy » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:00 am

I think paulatky sums it all up very well indeed. The certain guys in question can be found on either the political religious or depressed threads giving it their all for hours on end. Nut jobs the lot of them. However if it wasn't for this forum they wouldn't have a life so too ban them would be harsh.

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Post by titsoutforthelads » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:14 pm

Agree with you pushpin,if they had a life outside of this board how do you find so much time to spend on here. And if they have a job they are deceiving their employers by spending work time here.
Very sad but hopefully its just a temporay situation for them and they will get themselved sorted.
I guess its like an addiction that has taken hold of them

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