Dyche's Replacement

[CnBtruntru]

I honestly do not believe SD will go to Palace, however I am wrong quite a lot of the time
So my thoughts on replacements

Monk - No, seems his teams start going downhill in the second half of the season
Moyes - No, does not seem to somehow understand the problems and be able to fix them
Hodgson - God just a simple No
Alexander - Has not showed he is ready for the step up yet
Jokanovic - Yes from me, Fulhams style of play is attacking but would need a good defensive coach, as that side of their game slightly let them down
Staam - Yes thought he did well with Reading don't know how much they spent on players but they did well this season
Rodgers - God No, he would expect £100,000,000 to spend and when we were relegated say the board didn't back him, he also thinks the Scottish Premier League is competitive
Pearson - File under P....
O'Neil - would be an ok shout but I do not think he is interested in League football now, to much grief and he has more time with his family as his wife has or had cancer
Coleman - To me same as O'Neil is happy doing what he is doing with Wales, job for life nearly.

Strangely enough SD would be a seriously hard person to replace given what he has achieved, especially with the fact so many are not keen on his style of football, I do believe that given time that could be changed as long as he brings in the correct type of players with the correct attitude.

[paulus the woodgnome]

Zlatan as player manager

[pureclaret]

in Sean we trust !!!!! until we dont lol then lets look at several others bookies favorites
Teresa May would talk a good fight but may change tactics mid game but will they be the right ones.
Jeremy Corbyn will come over well in interviews but we could end up with a good strike force but he will refuse to play them and his number two Diane may well get confused over transfer fees and unsure if she has read the new offside rule.
Tim Farron plenty of passion but not too sure which game he is watching. And when he starts talking about lilly whites who knows what will happen.
The the Scotish manager Nicola Sturgeon talks and talks and talks about tactics but always comes back to change of new referendum on if we should stay and English club or go back to being a true Northen club

[dsr]

Regarding Moyes - it is only 4 years since he was hand picked by Alex Ferguson to replace him at Old Trafford, after a brilliant decade at Everton. I''m not sure he was even given the chance to fail at Old Trafford, and his spell at Sociedad was about as successful as most British managers' spells abroad. His spell at Sunderland is certainly a black spot given how meekly they surrendered, but in truth it was a bit of a poisoned challis and what he actually said in that now famous interview was, "we've struggled for the last 4 years, and I'm being asked to work with the same players, so why would things be any different this season?" In other words - give me some money to do better. It is hardly a particularly unusual or negative statement. He might have lost his mojo a bit (and that is certainly a question mark over him), but he's only 54 so to say he's over the hill given his pedigree seems to me to be remarkable. His overall win % as a manager is over 40%, which is generally regarded as decent.

The problem at Sunderland was that he carried on complaining. In January, he made a big fuss that they hadn't been able to sign the players they needed. It doesn't matter whether it was true or not - if you tell the players that they aren't good enough and will be relegated, you're three quarters of the way to the Championship before you start. We'd have gone down if Dyche had had that attitude.

[ClaretTony]

I think that critique of the above managers is generally pretty harsh (apart from on Alexander, which seems a pretty fair reflection)and reflects the level to which current perception influences our views on managers. Regarding Moyes - it is only 4 years since he was hand picked by Alex Ferguson to replace him at Old Trafford, after a brilliant decade at Everton. I''m not sure he was even given the chance to fail at Old Trafford, and his spell at Sociedad was about as successful as most British managers' spells abroad. His spell at Sunderland is certainly a black spot given how meekly they surrendered, but in truth it was a bit of a poisoned challis and what he actually said in that now famous interview was, "we've struggled for the last 4 years, and I'm being asked to work with the same players, so why would things be any different this season?" In other words - give me some money to do better. It is hardly a particularly unusual or negative statement. He might have lost his mojo a bit (and that is certainly a question mark over him), but he's only 54 so to say he's over the hill given his pedigree seems to me to be remarkable. His overall win % as a manager is over 40%, which is generally regarded as decent.

As for Monk, he took over Swansea when they were in a slump (12th but 2 points above the relegation zone), stabilised them and then finished the next season in 8th position, which was remarkable. Even after the slump that got them sacked, he still managed to end his time there with a win % of 36 percent (28 wins and 32 losses in 77 games), so to write him off based on the last couple of months at Swansea seems odd to me, particularly when he bounced back quite impressively at Leeds.

As for Hodgson - age is against him, and he may have been too rigid in his methods for the England team (although do you think he does that much more drill work than Sean Dyche? The systems and structures are pretty similar) but even if Zamora was bored in training, he probably wasn't by the fact the team were en route to a Europa League final. His record at both West Brom at Fulham - similar jobs to Burnley - is excellent (about a 38% win rate across the two).

None of which goes to show that we should appoint any of those 3 as manager, but I'd argue that all 3 have CVs that warrant a level of consideration, and particularly Monk and Moyes (given their age) ought to be managers that any Burnley fan looks at with an open mind. The same goes for Alan Pardew, who is the other out of work English candidate who is probably realistic (42% career win rate, mostly in the Premier League).

I stand by what I posted

Moyes - looks a spent force, can't imagine him being successful anywhere
Monk - go to Swansea and talk to their fans about it
Hodgson - I watched his England team play far too often I'm afraid

[claretdj]

Moyes? The man who said Sunderland were in a relegation battle after playing their 1st game last season! Also signs all his ex Utd/Everton rejects, do any of you guys remember new years eve @ turf? They were by far the poorest prem side to visit us n moyes just sat on the bench all game with no motivation all game for his team. Personally I would go for 1. Rodgers 2. Pardew.. utc..

[RocketLawnChair]

Hope Powell

[mkmel]

And what's this deal with Palace interviewing with Palace, anyhow? Isn't it a sideways move. Maybe south London is closer to Kettering than Burnley, and it's another situation like Eddie Howe where the wife calls the shots.

I know they are relatively close to each other but Sean Dyche doesn't live in Kettering he lives in Northampton.

I know this 'cos I met a neighbour and friend of Sean Dyche about 2 years ago.

[ClaretTony]

I know they are relatively close to each other but Sean Dyche doesn't live in Kettering he lives in Northampton.

He's from Kettering, born and brought up there.

[Lancasterclaret]

Monk - go to Swansea and talk to their fans about it

Not a chance, us fans have some serious limitations when it comes to judging players and managers.

Anyone remember that bloke standing up at the Dyche Q & A session to moan about not leaving a man up, even though what we were doing worked an absolute treat, and the stats backed it up?

[MACCA]

Not a chance, us fans have some serious limitations when it comes to judging players and managers.

Anyone remember that bloke standing up at the Dyche Q & A session to moan about not leaving a man up, even though what we were doing worked an absolute treat, and the stats backed it up?

Ahh Turtle, probably a great guy when you meet him.

[Ambrose]

Managers and players move mainly for two reasons, ambition and money. I don't see Palace being a very ambitious move, so pay the man. Simples.

[Slurpy]

Dyche at 1/9, oh no

[Steve1956]

A reliable source just told me it will be Dennis Wise

[Dyched]

A reliable source just told me it will be Dennis Wise

Ssshhh Bodens watching

[SGr]

Jokanovic would have to be first choice for me, above all others

[Rick_Muller]

Tim Sherwood will be a free agent shortly (if not already...)

[UpTheBeehole]

Kettering is 15 miles away from Northampton. it's like arguing the toss that someone said that they lived in Burnley but they actually lived in Gisburn

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Not looking good going off the odds.

Hope we are on the front foot for a possible new manager and coaching staff.

[brexit]

He has gone if you believe the bookies and they are very rarely wrong

[IndigoLake]

Not saying there is or isn't anything in it. But he's certainly the favourite with bookies at present: http://news.ladbrokes.com/football/prem ... e-job.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Sidney1st]

He has gone if you believe the bookies and they are very rarely wrong

Of course they can be wrong, that's why they offer odds on multiple managers, to cover all angles.

[brexit]

Sidney it is the spread that concerns me. There seems to be no other serious candidates and the club has yet again remained silent.

[Sidney1st]

Last time when Sunderland were heavily linked I think it was Dyche and not the club who put it to bed.

[Steve1956]

Ssshhh Bodens watching

[jojomk1]

A reliable source just told me it will be Dennis Wise

I quite often use the term Dennis Wise to describe a putt I have left on the 18th green (or any other)

"A sh!tty little 5 footer"

[Saxoman]

Would have to be a manager that plays similar style to dyche. You can't bring in a 'footballing' manager, radically changing philosophies. Unless you want relegation that is..

Gary megson?

[Lancasterclaret]

What I can't understand is that all the political threads can merged/removed, but an obvious troll is allowed to clutter up the board with his crap.

[Dyched]

Would have to be a manager that plays similar style to dyche. You can't bring in a 'footballing' manager, radically changing philosophies. Unless you want relegation that is..

Gary megson?

We're Burnley. We do and will do what we want.

[Longtimeclaret]

What I can't understand is that all the political threads can merged/removed, but an obvious troll is allowed to clutter up the board with his crap.

It is quite sad, that this pillock spends most of his "leisure" time posting shite on this Board. Says a great deal about his lifestyle

[Saxoman]

It is quite sad, that this pillock spends most of his "leisure" time posting shite on this Board. Says a great deal about his lifestyle

Until Sunday, I'd not posted for a good while I'll have you know.

[Belgianclaret]

Frank De Boer

[criminalclaret]

(if Sean goes) I would think the board will go for someone like Monk. Young , British, someone with a great amount​ of PL experience as a player and manager. That would be there obviously choice that's fits in with the 4/5 years they give their managers on average. Long term stability etc

I don't think Garlick would know how to handle a more experienced manager such as Moyes or Hodgson, there the type of managers who hold real sway in the footballing world and would be unusual choice.

[IndigoLake]

Quique Sánchez Flores.

There was mention of a friendly with Espanyol (this is only rumour at present) and it reminded me that he could be a good option to consider. He's managed in the Premier League (albeit only one season). In fact, he was at Watford! They finished 13th and he got them to the semi-final of the FA cup - not too shabby.

He's widely considered to have done very well at Espanyol who had been increasingly poor in recent seasons. They finished 8th ahead of the likes of Valencia and Malaga. He generally made them much more solid and harder to beat (sound familiar?). He's 52 years old so has a decent amount of experience having managed in Spain, Portgual, UAE and England. Oh and he speaks good English

[DCWat]

It wouldn't be Monk - Boro bound per Nixon.

[Woonderbah]

'Quique Sanchez Flores Claret n Blue Army !!'

It'll take some practice but must admit it's got a ring to it.
Tho he'll be pelted with fixodent n polygrip if the Bob Lord breaks into song.

[IndigoLake]

'Quique Sanchez Flores Claret n Blue Army !!'

It'll take some practice but must admit it's got a ring to it.
Tho he'll be pelted with fixodent n polygrip if the Bob Lord breaks into song.

Haha, and although he goes by Quique, his real first name is actually Enrique which would be an extra syllable! Mind you, I have absolutely no doubt that the Turf Moor faithful can manage this since they sing at a very rapid rate anyway

[CnBtruntru]

'Quique Sanchez Flores Claret n Blue Army !!'

It'll take some practice but must admit it's got a ring to it.
Tho he'll be pelted with fixodent n polygrip if the Bob Lord breaks into song.

I would say that would sound a bit like "Kinky Sanchezes Flowers Claret n Blu Army" me thinks especially at speed