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Post by Dom » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:08 pm

Sunderland south in now.
Just under 50% of the vote for Labour. Expected around 60% on the model.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:09 pm

If the exit poll is right
Perfect for Corbyn
He doesn't have to lead, couldn't do it.
He can just obstruct, all he's ever done.
He and his cronies, Abbott, McDonnell etc damage the British establishment, what they've strived for for years.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:09 pm

Bigger Tory vote in Sunderland than predicted.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:10 pm

Dom wrote:Sunderland south in now.
Just under 50% of the vote for Labour. Expected around 60% on the model.
Your maths is bad. lol Well above 50% but below the 68% projected.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:11 pm

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Post by taio » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:13 pm

Sunderland exit poll predicted 3% swing to Labour; actual 3.5% to Tory.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:13 pm

One thing looks certain, the Up The Clarets projection of 359 Tory seats looks wrong.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:19 pm

Burnley hold labour
Pendle hold conservative

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Post by Dom » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:19 pm

Yep brain fart. Labour won 59% of the vote in Sunderland south. Polls had it at 68%. Lower turnout than Newcastle at 61%

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Post by Dom » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:21 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Burnley hold labour
Pendle hold conservative
Result due at 3am. Not official that.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:22 pm

Fair. Someone tweeted it who looked official

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Post by accy sue » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:30 pm

I'm more nervous now, with these exit polls, than I've been all week... I cannot cope with waking up on the sofa to another brexit/Trump

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Post by SonofPog » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:32 pm

Exit polls been wrong loads recently. Early results support theyre just as wrong this time. Interesting night ahead though, which lets face it, even if she wins it's damaged TM. Hardly made her stronger.

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Post by Sidney1st » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:33 pm

Anyone know who the lass is on ITV?

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Post by Spijed » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:35 pm

Looking like Amber Rudd is going to lose her seat to Labour.
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Post by accy sue » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:35 pm

SonofPog wrote:Exit polls been wrong loads recently. Early results support theyre just as wrong this time. Interesting night ahead though, which lets face it, even if she wins it's damaged TM. Hardly made her stronger.
Or stabler

Thanks Sid!
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Post by Spijed » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:37 pm

SonofPog wrote:Exit polls been wrong loads recently. Early results support theyre just as wrong this time. Interesting night ahead though, which lets face it, even if she wins it's damaged TM. Hardly made her stronger.
The expert on Sky seemed to be confident that they are never more than 20 seats out. Even when they predicted a hung parliament in 1992 the Conservatives ended up with a majority of 10.

A similar result could very well happen, which is where we are now.

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Post by accy sue » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:39 pm

Alex Salmond to lose his seat?

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Post by SonofPog » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:40 pm

I think we've all had enough of experts no ;-)

Seriously, I, sure he's confident, but the last two have been way out.

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Post by accy sue » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:42 pm

Does anyone know how to turn subtitles off with a bt remote? I'm cat and house sitting for a friend and have accidentally put it on! Driving me bonkers!

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:42 pm

Spijed wrote:The expert on Sky seemed to be confident that they are never more than 20 seats out. Even when they predicted a hung parliament in 1992 the Conservatives ended up with a majority of 10.

A similar result could very well happen, which is where we are now.
Yeah, people shouldn't start expecting a hung parliament cos there's still a good chance that these people will still have a majority. You're only setting yourself up for disappointment if you're looking at it that way.

The way to look at this is that the Tories were expecting beyond a 100 seat majority, and even a 50-60 majority on election day. A tiny majority is still a great success for the left against the Tory hate machine that has gone into overdrive since this election was called. Fear will still have triumphed, but not as much as anyone expected.

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Post by accy sue » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:46 pm

It's defs a win for JC, hwever you look at it - the back stabbers can hang their heads in shame.

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Post by Sidney1st » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:46 pm

accy sue wrote:Does anyone know how to turn subtitles off with a bt remote? I'm cat and house sitting for a friend and have accidentally put it on! Driving me bonkers!
Look for the * (star) button.
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Post by accy sue » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:49 pm

no star - but when I studied the remote I actually found the 'sub' button! Thanks again Sid!
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Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:50 pm

accy sue wrote:It's defs a win for JC, hwever you look at it - the back stabbers can hang their heads in shame.
I'd forgot about those. Imagine if the PLP hadn't been working to userp the will of the Labour membership for the last 2 years.

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Post by accy sue » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:55 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'd forgot about those. Imagine if the PLP hadn't been working to userp the will of the Labour membership for the last 2 years.
How the actual hell could you forget them? I voted thru gritted teeth for one of them today... A ittle mealy mouthed nobody who thought he was bigger and better than JC... I'll pay my subs for as long as it takes to reselect him!

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:56 pm

Good night for Ruth Davidson by the looks of it. If the Tories do replace May i hope it's with her because she's a lot of fun and nothing about her suggests she's as far-right as Thesesa May seems willing to go. A much more centre-right mind behind that "shovel-face" of hers.

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Post by accy sue » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:57 pm

what's the deposit losing vote level these days? 5000?

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Post by ksrclaret » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:00 am

Good result for Labour in Swindon.

Hopefully it's indicative of a better performance for Labour in the South.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:02 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'd forgot about those. Imagine if the PLP hadn't been working to userp the will of the Labour membership for the last 2 years.
Imagine if the exit poll didn't amount to asking just 33 people leaving a Highbury crowd with 50,000 in attendance whether they were a Wenger stayer or goer, imagine if there'd also been a postal vote of the non present 10,000 ticket holders that weren't included at all, imagine if some got all giddy about this.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:02 am

accy sue wrote:what's the deposit losing vote level these days? 5000?
5% i believe
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Post by accy sue » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:03 am

I'm still holding my breath - but with a tiny 'dare to dream' flicker of a flame! I'm sure Jeremy will find a couple of places in his chaotic cabinet for' the less deadly of the cons! Suggestions please!

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Post by Garnerssoap » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:04 am

Students turned out in Newcastle. Good for them.

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Post by accy sue » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:05 am

Here's JV! take the walk of shame Mr Vine!

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:07 am

Labour expected to gain in Chelsea and Kensington!

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:07 am

BleedingClaret wrote:Imagine if the exit poll didn't amount to asking just 33 people leaving a Highbury crowd with 50,000 in attendance whether they were a Wenger stayer or goer, imagine if there'd also been a postal vote of the non present 10,000 ticket holders that weren't included at all, imagine if some got all giddy about this.
Yeah, but it's not.

66 people in a crowd of 100,000 is a better sample than 33 in a crowd of 50,000. 99 in a crowd of 150,000 is better than either. And 30,000 among even 100,000,000 is far, far better than all of those. You're making the mistake of assuming that sample sizes scale down well when you scaled down the percentage of what it is sampling. It's not, because it takes only 1 person to create a big swing of a few percent in your sample of 33, but in a sample of 3,333 it would take 111 people to acheive the same swing. That's a huge difference and much more difficult.

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Post by Damo » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:08 am

The prospect of having the workers pay for 3 years of tossing it off was bound to get the students to turn out to be fair
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Post by BleedingClaret » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:11 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Yeah, but it's not.

66 people in a crowd of 100,000 is a better sample than 33 in a crowd of 50,000. 99 in a crowd of 150,000 is better than either. And 30,000 among even 100,000,000 is far, far better than all of those. You're making the mistake of assuming that sample sizes scale down well when you scaled down the percentage of what it is sampling. It's not, because it takes only 1 person to create a big swing of a few percent in your sample of 33, but in a sample of 3,333 it would take 111 people to acheive the same swing. That's a huge difference and much more difficult.
In 111 points of survey with 33 people surveyed it would take only 1 at each venue to sway it

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:11 am

Damo wrote:The prospect of having the workers pay for 3 years of tossing it off was bound to get the students to turn out to be fair

Your prejudices are showing.

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:14 am

I've just seen Jeremy Vine on a virtual Downing St talking about blue brick roads and red brick roads, and I haven't had any drugs.
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Post by accy sue » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:16 am

Ken Clarke calls for less slogans and more policies! sounds a bit defeatist to me!

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:16 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:I've just seen Jeremy Vine on a virtual Downing St talking about blue brick roads and red brick roads, and I haven't had any drugs.
Why haven't you had any drugs?

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:18 am

Tory majority odds are sitting at 2.12 out from 1.5 about an hour ago when i was looking like they were overperforming the exit poll.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:19 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Tory majority odds are sitting at 2.12 out from 1.5 about an hour ago when i was looking like they were overperforming the exit poll.
Ignore that, they've just jumped to 2.62. Someone's lost a seat?? :lol:
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Post by accy sue » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:19 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:I've just seen Jeremy Vine on a virtual Downing St talking about blue brick roads and red brick roads, and I haven't had any drugs.
my best quote tonight so far! (no drugs for me either, but I am learning the quote function!)

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:20 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Why haven't you had any drugs?

I'm too old for that carry on.

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Post by Damo » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:25 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Ignore that, they've just jumped to 2.62. Someone's lost a seat?? :lol:
Or a large sum of money

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Post by accy sue » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:25 am

Recunt for Rudd?

I have a problem with my o key! think I spilt a bit of prosecco on it when we beat palace away!
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Post by accy sue » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:26 am

haha I won't edit - but corrected to recount!

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:26 am

accy sue wrote:Recunt for Rudd?



:shock:

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