Defour to Besiktas ?

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:39 pm

looks like he is on his way out with his name being hawked about by his agent.

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Rightfoot · Post by **Rightfoot** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:50 pm

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:58 pm

Like a repeat of last year when his name was being hawked about by his agent.

I know where Defour is right now - he's in the middle of a training session in Ireland

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:00 pm

I would love to see Defour crack on at Burnley and force his way into the starting eleven, does he have the desire to do is the question?

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:01 pm

Besiktas would be a great move for him. I crap move for us but good for him.

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:04 pm

If the club can get anywhere near money back spent on him that would be an incredible piece of business.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:04 pm

I hope he stays with us instead of retiring to Turkey.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:04 pm

Desire is the issue but dropping money on Rouven we need all our money back on Defour with no cut price deal
We will never fully know who has issues with who as regards his relationship with Sean.Defour is a talented player but his games for us have been seriously limited for whatever reason.
So maybe it's time to walk away and write him off as yet another foreign player who failed to live up to his promise

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:07 pm

He can't leave. What'll happen to his personal ward at Burnley General?

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:14 pm

Fingers crossed we get shut. Our Belgian Xavi, I think not.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:16 pm

I would love the chance to see Defour with a decent pre-season behind him with us next season. However if he is going, hope they get him gone quickly

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:28 pm

there was a tweet knocking around earlier claiming to quote the Olympiakos manager who said something along the lines of "Burnley want 7million and we can't pay that"

Not saying it's legit, just saying it's out there !

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:28 pm

He's certainly escaped to Ireland

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:31 pm

He always portrays such a happy, jovial demeanour.

bfc1984 · Post by **bfc1984** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:44 pm

Needs a good kick up his ass if you ask me,his hearts not in it to play for us! Talent without doubt mind

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Like a repeat of last year when his name was being hawked about by his agent.

I know where Defour is right now - he's in the middle of a training session in Ireland

Well since that was roughly 50 minutes ago if training is anything like match day he will be as we speak trudging off the pitch ready to take his place on the bench after feeling a tight pull in his toe nail....no point risking it.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:49 pm

Let's hope the new season revitalises him and our squad.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:06 pm

I'd love him to stay. He is the only flair player we have. Exciting to watch when played centrally.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:08 pm

The agent will be wanting another pay day hence the touting about.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:10 pm

The downside for Defour being he'd have to live in Turkey.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:11 pm

Iv no idea why he gets such a hard time by some fans. Is it because Dyche doesn't like him they must also not like him? Easily the best player we have, he's just not a workhorse. It's like taking a Bentley greenlaning.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:17 pm

In terms of raw ability he is easily our best midfielder, would love if he blended with the squad and got a good pre-season in him.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:28 pm

I'm not picking on Ashley Westwood here but I'm gong to use him for arguments sake: If he (Westwood) was Belgian would he have won over 50 caps for the national team?

Steven Defour has GOT to start for Burnley if he is fit, absolutely no question.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:28 pm

Right_winger wrote:Iv no idea why he gets such a hard time by some fans. Is it because Dyche doesn't like him they must also not like him? Easily the best player we have, he's just not a workhorse. It's like taking a Bentley greenlaning.

100% agree with this. We should be able to make space in our teams for players like this or our style of play will never improve.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:34 pm

At the end of the day every team needs that one player who can create something out of nothing. Our team is functional and play in a very functional way, fine it's served us well but we can't do anything else and at times in games we have rode out luck and got away with it because we cannnot keep a hold of the ball or hurt teams. Players like Defour bring that, they just need player around them on the same wavelength.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:47 pm

Diesel wrote:I'm not picking on Ashley Westwood here but I'm gong to use him for arguments sake: If he (Westwood) was Belgian would he have won over 50 caps for the national team?

Steven Defour has GOT to start for Burnley if he is fit, absolutely no question.

I don't think you can use that as an argument as the vast majority of those caps were won pre injury.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:48 pm

Let's hope a proper pre season sees him more involved this time. Can't believe any Burnley fan wouldn't want a fully fit Defour in the team.

QSclaret · Post by **QSclaret** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:33 pm

DCWat wrote:He always portrays such a happy, jovial demeanour.

He's belgian, they're all like that

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:34 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:I don't think you can use that as an argument as the vast majority of those caps were won pre injury.

So if we can get him back to pre injury form...

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:35 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:I don't think you can use that as an argument as the vast majority of those caps were won pre injury.

Still stands, take a minute, longer if you like, then agree.

KippaxFifaHD · Post by **KippaxFifaHD** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:40 pm

Steddyman wrote:I'd love him to stay. He is the only flair player we have.

Not Brady or Gudmundsson then?

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:42 pm

If he is willing to knuckle down and finally fight for a place in the team then keep him. If however he is going to whinge and get his agent to try and flog him to every club going, all the while crying about Dyche etc then **** him.
I agree he is a talented player, but from the outside looking in, he appears to have the talent but without a basic will to work hard and apply himself to actually CONSISTENTLY perform in what is the best and most watched league in world football. Again I say **** him as we are better off without him.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:50 pm

Braindead wrote: Again I say **** him as we are better off without him.

A bit early for Panto but: 'Oh no we're not'..

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:59 pm

Sidney1st wrote:So if we can get him back to pre injury form...

Then definitely he must be in the side! But Defour has admitted himself he's not the player he was pre injury.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:03 pm

Diesel wrote:A bit early for Panto but: 'Oh no we're not'..

We are if he can't be arsed, which was the point I was trying to make.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:07 pm

Hope he stays,and we play him...over to you Dyche!

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:10 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Hope he stays,and we play him...over to you Dyche!

No over to you Defour get your act together or on yer bike.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:20 pm

Jimscho wrote:No over to you Defour get your act together or on yer bike.

Difficult to influence a game when your arse is gathering blisters sat on the bench

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:24 pm

DCWat wrote:He always portrays such a happy, jovial demeanour.

I've watched him play for over 13 years and he's never looked a happy chappy. It's just the way he is, no reason to look for anything more behind it.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:25 pm

QSclaret wrote:He's belgian, they're all like that

Oi you, watch it

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:46 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Difficult to influence a game when your arse is gathering blisters sat on the bench

We don't know what goes on in training and in the dressing room.He doesn't always seem to be one of the lads and maybe it's his attitude that is wrong and why he is on the bench.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:53 pm

KippaxFifaHD wrote:Not Brady or Gudmundsson then?

Might just be me but I haven't seen Brady do anything Ross Wallace couldn't do yet..

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:33 am

RocketLawnChair wrote:Might just be me but I haven't seen Brady do anything Ross Wallace couldn't do yet..

That would be almost funny.....if it wasn't true!

PutTheWheelieBinsOut · Post by **PutTheWheelieBinsOut** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:29 am

Braindead wrote:If he is willing to knuckle down and finally fight for a place in the team then keep him. If however he is going to whinge and get his agent to try and flog him to every club going, all the while crying about Dyche etc then **** him.
I agree he is a talented player, but from the outside looking in, he appears to have the talent but without a basic will to work hard and apply himself to actually CONSISTENTLY perform in what is the best and most watched league in world football. Again I say **** him as we are better off without him.

better off without him?

I beg to differ,

10% win rate without him on the pitch, 40% win rate with him on the pitch. We didn't do so well without him last season.

Just blind loyalty do Dycheball.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:09 am

Belgianclaret wrote:I've watched him play for over 13 years and he's never looked a happy chappy. It's just the way he is, no reason to look for anything more behind it.

I wasn't reading anything in to it. Just observing that he's generally a grumpy looking sod

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:41 am

Some training photos on the site and he looks happy enough. Having a laugh with the other players.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:02 am

Commy wrote:Some training photos on the site and he looks happy enough. Having a laugh with the other players.

Photoshop!

Just kidding. I love me some Defour.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:45 am

Maybe it is a Belgium thing, Chadli decided West Brom's pre season training camp wasn't for him as it involved working hard.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:56 am

claretdom wrote:Maybe it is a Belgium thing, Chadli decided West Brom's pre season training camp wasn't for him as it involved working hard.

Maybe you're right: technical players were brought up to keep possession and move the ball around. It saves a lot of energy and wears the opposition down.

Nowadays, it seems in fashion not to have the ball, to organize the team and to run around until the opposition makes a mistake. This whilst not too long ago all teams were trying to play tiki-taka. Just like fashion, things will change again in the near future.

I still believe good teams contain a spine of technical players, who can control the tempo, keep possession and open up defenses with precise passing.

Hendrickxz · Post by **Hendrickxz** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:01 am

QSclaret wrote:He's belgian, they're all like that

Precisely, remember Rowan Atkinson's Belgian Gastronome sketch!