Britt Assombalonga

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:10 pm

Shore claret wrote:I've made that up, but maybe he could trap a ball better than andre

Another ball could trap a ball better than Andre.

Sorry. Bit naughty that...

FWIW, I'd like to see gray have another season at this level. I saw an improvement last season, and I think maybe there's more to come.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:19 pm

This control thing is a bit of a misnomer too.

He's not got an outstanding first touch - granted - but some of his lay-offs and flicks can be quite brilliant at times. Because of our style of play we don't often get runners going past him so he can't do those flicks as often as perhaps he'd like.

He's a pace merchant. His whole career he'll have played in teams setup to thread him through and that's what he'll have practised in training again and again.

Now we're asking him to play with his back to goal - a completely different skill set. And we're asking him to do it at the highest level.

United have just paid between £75-£90 million for a striker and you should read what Everton fans say about his hold up and link play.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:21 pm

If Gray could get 10-12 goals in a full PL season, [9/32 in the season just finished] then we should keep him rather than sell for the £10m [?] that we might get...those goals could help us stay up again.

Could he and Assombalonga play together..what do the experts on here think? [yes I know, there are quite a few of you...form an orderly queue]

Assombalonga, Gray, Barnes, Walters and Vokes would be something else...the best bunch of forwards I have EVER seen at Turf Moor if it happened...replace Keane properly and there is no way we are going down.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:35 pm

Other clubs interest in Gray (press) seems to have diminished

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:40 pm

I know he only has 12 months left but with his Championship goals tally, for us and Bees, he has to be worth more than Kodjia and Hogan. They both went for £15m.

Let'sChaseTheDragon · Post by **Let'sChaseTheDragon** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:58 pm

Socrates wrote:I think there is a complete misconception amongst Burnley fans over how many goals a striker should score for Burnley at this level.

This isn't the football league with 8 games more, poorer defenders and we're a stronger team. If Gray got 15 goals a season two years on the spin he would be a £50 million footballer in the England squad. To expect him to get that is simply unreasonable.

I'm going to put up a list of the top league scorers from last year :-

Kane
Lukaku
Sanchez
Costa
Aguero
Dele Alli
Zlatan
Hazard
Josh King
Benteke
Defoe
Llorente
Son Heung-Min
Coutinho
Mane
Vardy
Giroud
Firmino
Deeney
Vokes
Walcott
Gylfi Sigurdsson
Pedro
Negredo
Gray

Look at that list of players. Internationals, players on hundreds of thousands a week. Other than perhaps Josh King and Troy Deeney who can we reasonably expect our strikers to regularly outperform?

Our strikers did bloody well last year when you factor in Gray's suspension and the service they get. Anybody who doesn't get that ...... I would respectfully suggest doesn't have an understanding of the level we're at.

Brilliant post. Another AG fan, here. He might be a bit untidy at times, but he’s potent- and a striker most teams in the lower half would love to have. Seems to be totally unappreciated by too many on here (in my opinion).

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:04 pm

Nobody is disputing that gray isnt a good player because he his . If we could had britt into the mix and keep gray we would have loads of different options and if gray wanted to leave i think january would be a good time

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:46 pm

AG has some very useful attributes, strength and sprint speed being the obvious ones. He also has that top strikers knack of being always looking to snap a shot off. His failings unfortunately are equally glaring - his distribution, close control and link up leave a lot to be desired.

He reminds me of a modern and higher level Johnny Francis. A player I liked.

I like AG and would like him to stay, I feel he is a top notch Championship striker... and a good third striker for the Premier. There again most people will disagree with me when I say that the search for a new front man for me would be a player who could compliment Vokes, as to me on form and playing will Vokes would be for me be the pick of our current crop.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:12 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Nobody is disputing that gray isnt a good player because he his . If we could had britt into the mix and keep gray we would have loads of different options and if gray wanted to leave i think january would be a good time

Why would half way through a season be a good time to leave?

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:24 pm

Get britt up to scratch and more time to try and persuade gray to sign a new deal if he want then sell him in january

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:08 pm

Bit naughty with my above post, I really like Andre I think he causes defenders real problems.
I think what he does is try to be too clever with his first touch he tries to beat the man and get away all in one movement. As people have said he has got better each year and next year could be a real breakthrough year for him.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:25 pm

Only problem I have with Andre is him and his agent believing that after 1 season (including a suspension) in the PL he deserves the quoted wages (if they are to be believed).

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:19 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Only problem I have with Andre is him and his agent believing that after 1 season (including a suspension) in the PL he deserves the quoted wages (if they are to be believed).

Think the wage thing was just paper talk, he certainly won't get 100k a week at Burnley, doubt he will even earn half this amount,at the moment i would retain Andre, but if he is adamant he wants a move, we should have a back-up in place (Assombalonga) in case West Ham or another come in at the 11th hour as we will be short up top.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:27 pm

tiger76 wrote: we should have a back-up in place (Assombalonga) in case West Ham or another come in at the 11th hour as we will be short up top.

But we wouldn't sell at the 11th hour to leave us short up top.

We aren't scratching around for brass like we have had to previously.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:50 am

Financially we don't need to sell that is true,but if a players head is turned, it is difficult to reject a request from the said player to at least talk to other clubs,Burnley are not the only club in this position Arsenal and Tottenham are struggling to keep their star names despite in Tottenham's case champions league football to offer.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:01 am

BleedingClaret wrote:Gray is the best forward we have if you were a dominant team creating pressure and clear cut chances....
However as for OUR requirements at EPL level he is IMO lacking ball control, link play, awareness, agility, guile and strangely strength.

Understanding (and agreeing) perfectly with what you say is one thing.

If we follow the logic it is another thing.

What we are saying is that because we are not a great side (balls into the strikers aren't great and therefore need a higher quality of control etc) we therefore need a higher quality of striker.

The only problem with this logic is that better teams need better strikers and worser teams can live with lesser strikers. Obviously the reverse is true.

I see your point though and it's an interesting perspective ahead of whatever happens with Gray and another possible striker this season.

UTC

bfc1984 · Post by **bfc1984** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:04 am

randomclaret2 wrote:Any braindead grammar pedants around ?

Suppose my biggest downfall is leaving education a dozen years ago, I have a reasonable job but the only vocabulary I need to use is via text message these days and I do use the wrong spellings for past and present terms etc sometimes.But my 'braindead' statement was not on grammar or someone's education it was a dig at people that know f all about our club.Have a lovely day at work today will you highly educated toss pot and please correct me on my post sure I have made a mistake somewhere xxx

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:23 am

Sorry ?

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:37 am

Remind me again, is this the Assombalonga signing thread or the Gray discussion thread ?

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:42 am

Im sure we will know this week if he his coming or not

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:39 am

Sky bet takin assambolonga odds off and said they wont be returning

burnleyaremy2ndteam · Post by **burnleyaremy2ndteam** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:43 am

Reecey1987 wrote:Sky bet takin assambolonga odds off and said they wont be returning

I saw they had been removed, where have they said that they won't be returning?

Looks like we will find out today or tomorrow then, keep your eyes peeled for private number plates on the area

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:45 am

burnleyaremy2ndteam wrote:I saw they had been removed, where have they said that they won't be returning?

Looks like we will find out today or tomorrow then, keep your eyes peeled for private number plates on the area

Type assambolonga in on twitter and you will see what sky bet put on

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:47 am

burnleyaremy2ndteam wrote:I saw they had been removed, where have they said that they won't be returning?

Looks like we will find out today or tomorrow then, keep your eyes peeled for private number plates on the area

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:48 am

Reecey1987 wrote:Type assambolonga in on twitter and you will see what sky bet put on

For those of us who aren't on Twitter maybe you can enlighten us

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:49 am

I just have done

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:02 am

Im not really a gambling person so i dont really understand it . Im sure there will be someone on here that can fill us in

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:04 am

Firthy wrote:For those of us who aren't on Twitter maybe you can enlighten us

You don't have to be "on Twitter" to look at it.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:05 am

He's signing for Boro, Burnley and Watford depending on which 'in the know' tweeter you believe!

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:06 am

It'll be Boro.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:25 am

Dan black from burnley express says we have had 2 bids turned down for him and he expects us to go in again also including darikwa in any offer

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:34 am

I wonder what Reecey1987 will do with his time when this transfer saga concludes.....

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:36 am

Jakubs Tash wrote:I wonder what Reecey1987 will do with his time when this transfer saga concludes.....

Most probably same as you lot

ayrshireclaret83 · Post by **ayrshireclaret83** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:46 am

Rumblings that boro are in for afobe from Bournemouth so maybe they have moved on from Britt

Terrier · Post by **Terrier** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:50 am

I have noticed that on the watford forum they seem to have little interest on this transfer and yet based where his child lives i would say they are the slight favorites.

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:19 pm

Going for a medical at Boro.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:19 pm

Hes due up in north east for a medical so im guessing thats that

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:20 pm

Rumours he's having a medical at Boro today https://twitter.com/JamesNursey/status/ ... 3014448128

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:20 pm

Looks like we've missed out

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:22 pm

Going to the far North East purely for money? If true then he's certainly not one for us.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:24 pm

Hang you're collective heads in shame Garlick, directors and the recruitment team...

Don't really mean that just wanted to be the first to jump on a high horse !

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:29 pm

Rubbish all the recruitment teams fault. Sack the lot of them!

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:30 pm

Mixed feelings on this. Good player, but at that fee and wages, with his injury record....

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:33 pm

I bet this saga is not finished yet.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:34 pm

If he's off to Boro, then only a stupid fee will do for Gray. We won't find better

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:34 pm

No doubt they will all be out around teeside, cocks planted firmly in hands before a ball as even been kicked again..,

mikeS · Post by **mikeS** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:39 pm

Forest must be a nightmare to deal with. After the Lansbury saga, that seemed to roll on for season after season, you have to wonder why are we bothering with Forest.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:40 pm

IMO, Assombalonga would be more suited to our style of play (next season in particular with Taylor, Brady and JBG providing the aerial crossing), Gray is pretty useless in the air if truth be told.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:43 pm

If anyone knows Reecey personally, now would be the time to call him and check he's ok.

RandomBoroBloke · Post by **RandomBoroBloke** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:46 pm

RocketLawnChair wrote:No doubt they will all be out around teeside, cocks planted firmly in hands before a ball as even been kicked again..,

He's a player not everyone wants here, certainly one that I don't. I was really hoping Burnley would "save" us what will be IMHO a £15m disaster.