Britt Assombalonga

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Is this the Ings who said last week that he doesn't know how long it will be before he's fit again?

It is but I was under the impression that with it being 9/10 months since his injury he was closer to fitness than he obviously is.

Terry Cochrane · Post by **Terry Cochrane** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I never made any reference to them being lucky - I was just pointing out that they were above us before that game against us and remained so after the game.

Sorry I know you didn't say it. I was referencing that result to the poster above who did.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:38 pm

I would be happy for us to take a punt on him but not at those prices. I just hope that we have alternatives in mind.

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:08 pm

Seems Assombalonga going to Boro' for £15m now having medical. What is plan B now ?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:08 pm

Someone who won't want a rumoured £60k a week in wages for starters

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:09 pm

Oh and I'm waiting for pushin or the other bellsniff to come along and tell me what a disgrace the club is for not completing the deal.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:09 pm

Still 6 weeks to go. Don't fret.

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:10 pm

It seems he or his agent was only interested in money and not playing Prem football. Serves him right if it goes pear shaped. Do we add to Gray and if so who ?

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:10 pm

Do we need him ??????

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:19 pm

piston broke wrote:Still 6 weeks to go. Don't fret.

6 weeks?? Ffs!! It felt closer than that!! Thanks for ruining my night!!

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:31 pm

It's not just the alleged wages Middlesbrough are prepared to pay him it's also the fact that both Burnley and Watford appear not to be willing to pay the type of fee that Boro are prepared to

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:44 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:Seems Assombalonga going to Boro' for £15m now having medical. What is plan B now ?

Who said he was plan A ?.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:05 pm

bartons baggage wrote:Who said he was plan A ?.

I think as we've made at least one offer for him makes it Plan A

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:06 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Oh and I'm waiting for pushin or the other bellsniff to come along and tell me what a disgrace the club is for not completing the deal.

For someone not on here much ,you still find time to be an abusive troll , I hope you're proud of yourself

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:06 pm

i still don't get the love-in for Gary Monk.
Sacked at Swansea, improves Weeds but when the crunch came he took them from in the playoffs, in April, to nearly men.
He won't get the smoggies up.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:09 pm

joey13 wrote:For someone not on here much ,you still find time to be an abusive troll , I hope you're proud of yourself

Is the alternative stamping my feet and saying its a disgrace when the club doesn't sign someone?

If that's the alternative, I'm happy as I am, plus I'm not that abusive.

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:10 pm

People suggesting Assombalong has just chased the money ahead of prem football.

I don't think he's ever had that choice to make as we've not had an offer accepted.

If Boro are his only choice he does rigjg to follow the money.

I'm not fussed we aren't pushing the boat out for him. A lot of risk with this one for me.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:15 pm

claretblue wrote:I think as we've made at least one offer for him makes it Plan A

The thing is not all clubs make public what deals they may be involved in.
How do you know we haven't got bids in for strikers that have not been leaked.
Not all clubs choose to prostitute their players.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:22 pm

Has The Ass failed his Boro medical? It's being reported on some outlets he has

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:23 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Has The Ass failed his Boro medical? It's being reported on some outlets he has

Nope. Boro announced the deal 5 mins ago.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:26 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Is the alternative stamping my feet and saying its a disgrace when the club doesn't sign someone?

If that's the alternative, I'm happy as I am, plus I'm not that abusive.

Bellsniff and throbber not offensive , be happy with yourself ,I presume you use that to people's faces , no didn't think so , that makes you a bullying troll

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:29 pm

joey13 wrote:Bellsniff and throbber not offensive , be happy with yourself ,I presume you use that to people's faces , no didn't think so , that makes you a bullying troll

I have a wide variety of words to use to people's faces, if you ever see me let me know it's you.
Can't miss me, I've got Sidney on the back of my shirt and my 2 teenage sons will be with me.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:30 pm

I honestly don't see why people are having a pop at him for choosing money over the Prem. If we offer £30k a week and they offer double then surely it's a no brainer. You'd think of yours and your family's future wouldn't you?

ClaretSteve · Post by **ClaretSteve** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:31 pm

Here he goes again......

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:32 pm

I am quite relaxed about us not paying as much as Boro' appear to have paid so not fretting about it but good strikers are in short supply and we do need more goals. Its not a great situation for us if we have no plan B as it looks we might need to keep Gray but then get nothing for him at the end of the season unless he signs a new deal which seems unlikely. I think if we keep Gray then we still need to add another decent striker and I hope we have something in mind because the options appear a bit limited given the money we are prepared to pay. I was shocked that Murphy cost £12m today.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:35 pm

Sidney1st wrote:I have a wide variety of words to use to people's faces, if you ever see me let me know it's you.
Can't miss me, I've got Sidney on the back of my shirt and my 2 teenage sons will be with me.

He is 6 ft 8 and built like a brick house. Haha good lùck when you confront Sidney. You want to see the teens too

Addressed to wrong person but hey ho

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:37 pm

Can't say I'm that bothered about missing out on Assombalonga - I said way back when this thread was pretty new that very few strikers of his ilk have successfully transferred to the Premier League unless they've gone up with a club. He''s got pace and power but no great finesse, and it takes time to adapt (as it did Andre) and that's made tougher by expectation and the need to adjust to new standings. At £15 million, he might have been decent value transfer fee wise in this market, but suggested wages north of 50k just aren't realistic for a player with his relatively limited CV, so we're absolutely right to move on from him.

In any event, I'm not absolutely sold by the idea that we need to replace Andre with a like for like, hang-on-the-last-shoulder pace merchant. I'd rather we looked for someone more in the Ings mould, which is why I'm if anything a bit more disappointed that Jacob Murphy, who looked to me like the sort of player who might have that sort of attribute, looks to be going to Newcastle for 12 million, although I accept that we couldn't have competed with Newcastle even if we'd wanted him.

The only worry is that its not immediately easy to see who might be available who could provide that bit of spark for us who is realistic. There are players like Lawrence at Leicester who have plenty going for them, but they're not so immediately exciting, and the loan market doesn't particularly seem to suit us for these sorts of players. Logically, we'd be looking abroad to places like France and Belgium where players with the sort of combination of pace, power and bit of unpredictability that we'd ideally want are more commonly found, but there's not been that much evidence of us targetting those markets so far this summer. Plenty of time yet though.

Hendrickxz · Post by **Hendrickxz** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:37 pm

Should have got JRod for £12 mil and 40K a week when we had the chance. Buggered that one up, didn't we! He wanted to come back as well.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:37 pm

Apparently he will only play for another team with the same colour shirt as Forest so we were never in with a chance.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:47 pm

Pearcey wrote:I honestly don't see why people are having a pop at him for choosing money over the Prem. If we offer £30k a week and they offer double then surely it's a no brainer. You'd think of yours and your family's future wouldn't you?

He hasn't had a choice to make, has he? Seems pretty clear that neither ourselves or Watford were willing to meet Forest's asking price. It never came down to him having a choice between contracts.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:47 pm

claretspice wrote:Can't say I'm that bothered about missing out on Assombalonga - I said way back when this thread was pretty new that very few strikers of his ilk have successfully transferred to the Premier League unless they've gone up with a club. He''s got pace and power but no great finesse, and it takes time to adapt (as it did Andre) and that's made tougher by expectation and the need to adjust to new standings. At £15 million, he might have been decent value transfer fee wise in this market, but suggested wages north of 50k just aren't realistic for a player with his relatively limited CV, so we're absolutely right to move on from him.

In any event, I'm not absolutely sold by the idea that we need to replace Andre with a like for like, hang-on-the-last-shoulder pace merchant. I'd rather we looked for someone more in the Ings mould, which is why I'm if anything a bit more disappointed that Jacob Murphy, who looked to me like the sort of player who might have that sort of attribute, looks to be going to Newcastle for 12 million, although I accept that we couldn't have competed with Newcastle even if we'd wanted him.

The only worry is that its not immediately easy to see who might be available who could provide that bit of spark for us who is realistic. There are players like Lawrence at Leicester who have plenty going for them, but they're not so immediately exciting, and the loan market doesn't particularly seem to suit us for these sorts of players. Logically, we'd be looking abroad to places like France and Belgium where players with the sort of combination of pace, power and bit of unpredictability that we'd ideally want are more commonly found, but there's not been that much evidence of us targetting those markets so far this summer. Plenty of time yet though.

The time to adapt element may be more of an issue with an import from France or Belgium though, Spice.

I do agree that there is an advantage for a player coming up with a promoted team. It's pretty likely though that whoever we get is going to be required to hit the ground running.

Experienced Premier League players, unless in the twilight of their career, aren't in our market which really leaves youngsters, Championship or European targets, all who will have the same issue of lacking PL experience and needing to adapt.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:54 pm

DCWat wrote:The time to adapt element may be more of an issue with an import from France or Belgium though, Spice.

I do agree that there is an advantage for a player coming up with a promoted team. It's pretty likely though that whoever we get is going to be required to hit the ground running.

Experienced Premier League players, unless in the twilight of their career, aren't in our market which really leaves youngsters, Championship or European targets, all who will have the same issue of lacking PL experience and needing to adapt.

Not sure if that is right. I can think of a fair few overseas imports in that powerful mould who have hit the ground running - Sakho and Valencia at West Ham, and the lad at Watford being decent examples. If anything, theyve then struggled to maintain an initial burst.

Abs the other point is that they tend to be better value. Which means theyre less of a gamble in the first place. If push comes to shove i'd rather hold Gray till january for the sake of 5 million quid than pay 5 million and 30 grand a week more for a kid from the Championship who has plenty of question marks against him.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:59 pm

I am please Assombadoesn'tbelonga to Burnley!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:00 pm

dpinsussex wrote:He is 6 ft 8 and built like a brick house. Haha good lùck when you confront Sidney. You want to see the teens too
Addressed to wrong person but hey ho

I'm 6ft 3, but I've heard you're bad at measuring in inches

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:08 pm

claretspice wrote:Not sure if that is right. I can think of a fair few overseas imports in that powerful mould who have hit the ground running - Sakho and Valencia at West Ham, and the lad at Watford being decent examples. If anything, theyve then struggled to maintain an initial burst.

Abs the other point is that they tend to be better value. Which means theyre less of a gamble in the first place. If push comes to shove i'd rather hold Gray till january for the sake of 5 million quid than pay 5 million and 30 grand a week more for a kid from the Championship who has plenty of question marks against him.

I agree that there is likely to be better value to be had abroad. I'm not sure though that a European player is more likely to adapt to the Premier League than a player from the Championship. It's down to the quality of the individual. There are lots who have done it but perhaps as many who have failed, or taken a long time to settle.

If we were to look at someone as a longer term option to replace Gray, I'd rather we did that now than in January. Depending upon how the season pans out, the latter stages may be far from ideal for blooding someone as Gray's successor.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:08 pm

Wilfried Bony would be absolutely perfect for us. He has the combination of vokes and barnes attributes while still offering something different to them and gray. For me him or someone with similar attributes is exactly the type of player we should be looking at to combine with Gray or lead the line.

PWBFC · Post by **PWBFC** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:13 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:Wilfried Bony would be absolutely perfect for us. He has the combination of vokes and barnes attributes while still offering something different to them and gray. For me him or someone with similar attributes is exactly the type of player we should be looking at to combine with Gray or lead the line.

Just the small matter of his enormous wages.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:15 pm

City are busy subsidising other players wages to get rid of them so they'll probably end up doing the same with him.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:16 pm

Dyche's poor record at signing strikers could be a factor putting off the likes of Assombalonga from signing for us. If Gray decides to go we could be in real trouble and end up with Juke mark 2 come September

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:16 pm

I'd guess he will go back to Swansea.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:20 pm

Sidney1st wrote:I'm 6ft 3, but I've heard you're bad at measuring in inches

Absolutely.
Us relatively young people only do centimetres

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:21 pm

PWBFC wrote:Just the small matter of his enormous wages.

As said above, if there's a possibility of subsidised wages it surely must be something we should look at based on attributes alone. My point is the type of striker of his mould is exactly the sort of striker we should be in for. Whether that would have been assombalonga or not is a different matter, and at 60k p.w I wouldn't be prepared to find out.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:23 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Absolutely.
Us relatively young people only do centimetres

I'm only 36 for a few more hours, I'm not that old

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:25 pm

We could always take Patrick Bamford back on loan. I'm sure that he would jump at the chance.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:28 pm

agreenwood wrote:He hasn't had a choice to make, has he? Seems pretty clear that neither ourselves or Watford were willing to meet Forest's asking price. It never came down to him having a choice between contracts.

I'm aware of that AG. Just a few people on this thread calling him greedy.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:32 pm

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Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:32 pm

I'd be greedy for £60k a week, especially after having an injury that kept me out for a long time.

lrac · Post by **lrac** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:34 pm

Can we now move on please

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:36 pm

claretblue wrote:http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/foot ... s-13345323

I think that this has been common knowledge for well over an hour now.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:36 pm

'Boro are spending big again to get back to the prem at the first attempt.

Worked for us, so might well work for them.