Burnley spending.

[IndigoLake]

Can't imagine there were too many itching to spend on Walters and Bardsley. Not about how much we've spent, rather have we spent it wisely ? Time will tell of course.

Oh, I agree - it's not all about spending. I was just trying to answer the question of the OP regarding budget. And the reality is that it's pointless worrying too much about it until the transfer window has closed.

I think we have spent wisely. Walters in particular is an absolute bargain, in my opinion. However, I feel we still need a central defender, wingers and striker and am interested to see who we bring in.

[SkiptonClaret]

Oh, I agree - it's not all about spending. I was just trying to answer the question of the OP regarding budget. And the reality is that it's pointless worrying too much about it until the transfer window has closed.

I think we have spent wisely. Walters in particular is an absolute bargain, in my opinion. However, I feel we still need a central defender, wingers and striker and am interested to see who we bring in.

Agreed, I think we are about 3 short.

[Vegas Claret]

I think everyone on here knows which player I'm referring to.

Also don't be surprised to see another player no-one has yet considered arrive before the deadline. If it happens that will break our transfer record but, to repeat, Dyche has no budget so there would be no problem. The manager has the 100% trust of the Board so long as he operates sensibly.

It's clear from the body language displayed by Roy that we are after Gareth Bale after missing out on Neymar

[Saxoman]

It's clear from the body language displayed by Roy that we are after Gareth Bale after missing out on Neymar

I know your joking, but if you could sign players for just 1 game, I don't think you could afford bale!

[Sidney1st]

There are 3 weeks left and there are transfer waiting for other players to be sold before they can be completed.

But like being part of a chain in house buying is the best way to look at it.

There were similar conversations on here last summer.

It isn't ideal starting the season with 3 CB's, one of whom is still yet to reach his potential at 27 , but there's no need to panic yet.

As Royboy has alluded too, fees aren't going to be the issue, it's the stupid wages some players and their agents think they're entitled too.

[Leisure]

I know your joking, but if you could sign players for just 1 game, I don't think you could afford bale!

But we've more chance of being able to afford it than Rovers have!

[Saxoman]

I think contracts should be abolished and players just play for whoever pays them the most on any given week.

[Vegas Claret]

I think contracts should be abolished and players just play for whoever pays them the most on any given week.

That would mean you would forfeit and lose 3-0 every week though Saxo

[Saxoman]

That would mean you would forfeit and lose 3-0 every week though Saxo

Would be true freedom for players though wouldn't it? Obviously they'd have to take care of their own training, medical etc, but their pay would be absolutely astronomical!

[Paul Waine]

Would be true freedom for players though wouldn't it? Obviously they'd have to take care of their own training, medical etc, but their pay would be absolutely astronomical!

Interesting thinking, Saxo.... but, could it work in a team game?

Imagine all the players being available every week in a "footballer auction room." Imagine that the Premier League has decided that every team must buy 18 players for every game. And, imagine that the teams are told that they must submitted sealed bids for every player they would like to play for them for the next game. So, the envelopes are opened and every team bids for every player - and the player is matched to the team submitting the top bid for that player - followed by eliminating bids from teams that have reached their limit of 18 players...

So, 20 teams, 360 players (let's assume that each team ends up with the right number of players for a squad of 18, including 2 keepers, and right number of defenders, midfield and forwards) - but any players above 360 don't get picked and don't get paid - and, of course, if you are injured, you won't receive any bids.

So, do the players that haven't been picked offer to play for less money? do they offer their services for more than 1 game?

And, how do the teams get on? every week introducing a random group of 18 players to play against the wealthiest club, who has always managed to sign the "top 18 players."

Not really much of a league, not really much competition. Even Neymar might decide he'd like to know who he is playing with week after week...

So, we are somewhere between your "true freedom for players" and the 1960s "maximum wage" and "club ownership of player registrations."

And, the money wheel keeps on spinning....

[Saxoman]

Interesting thinking, Saxo.... but, could it work in a team game?

Imagine all the players being available every week in a "footballer auction room." Imagine that the Premier League has decided that every team must buy 18 players for every game. And, imagine that the teams are told that they must submitted sealed bids for every player they would like to play for them for the next game. So, the envelopes are opened and every team bids for every player - and the player is matched to the team submitting the top bid for that player - followed by eliminating bids from teams that have reached their limit of 18 players...

So, 20 teams, 360 players (let's assume that each team ends up with the right number of players for a squad of 18, including 2 keepers, and right number of defenders, midfield and forwards) - but any players above 360 don't get picked and don't get paid - and, of course, if you are injured, you won't receive any bids.

So, do the players that haven't been picked offer to play for less money? do they offer their services for more than 1 game?

And, how do the teams get on? every week introducing a random group of 18 players to play against the wealthiest club, who has always managed to sign the "top 18 players."

Not really much of a league, not really much competition. Even Neymar might decide he'd like to know who he is playing with week after week...

So, we are somewhere between your "true freedom for players" and the 1960s "maximum wage" and "club ownership of player registrations."

And, the money wheel keeps on spinning....

The saying goes, 'no player bigger than the club'.. My proposal would change that..

Imagine how exciting it could be? 'Wow, this week we've got messi playing for us!'..

It would revolutionise the game, freshen it up totally.

[Paul Waine]

The saying goes, 'no player bigger than the club'.. My proposal would change that..

Agreed, but why would anyone want to change that? Would we have fans from all around the country following a player or two, rather than Burnley (or any other club)?

Yes, many on here will hope that Michael Keane does well in his career - especially when he is playing for England. The same goes for Kieran Trippier and perhaps some other ex-Clarets. But, we are all (well, almost all) Burnley fans. The excitement comes from following a club, and, dare I say, following that club through good times and more challenging times. The joys are so much greater when we know that we've been "down the divisions" and won our way back to the top again.

UTC

[Saxoman]

Agreed, but why would anyone want to change that? Would we have fans from all around the country following a player or two, rather than Burnley (or any other club)?

Yes, many on here will hope that Michael Keane does well in his career - especially when he is playing for England. The same goes for Kieran Trippier and perhaps some other ex-Clarets. But, we are all (well, almost all) Burnley fans. The excitement comes from following a club, and, dare I say, following that club through good times and more challenging times. The joys are so much greater when we know that we've been "down the divisions" and won our way back to the top again.

UTC

Oh I have no doubts the old fashioned fans would be up in arms, BUT this is a new time, things have moved on. Its becoming more about individual superstars of the game now, this would be just another step forward.

[Paul Waine]

Times, today, reports Tony Bloom's comments on transfer fees:

Tony Bloom, the Brighton owner, said that transfer-fee inflation had taken him by surprise on the club’s first return to the top flight since 1983. Bloom said: “We don’t want to be spending a huge amount of money and there is no guarantee that it will be a success and if you do go back down you are back in a situation of a lot of clubs who are really struggling after relegation.
“It is always getting that balance. You try to get value for money, which in this window is not easy as the inflation on the transfer fees is quite sensational. Sometimes you have to over-pay if you need a particular player because you want to give yourselves the best possible chance of staying up. But I am surprised how much we are being asked to pay. It’s even more when you are in the Premier League.”

[TheFamilyCat]

There are 3 weeks left and there are transfer waiting for other players to be sold before they can be completed.

But like being part of a chain in house buying is the best way to look at it.

But unfortunately you can still be gazumped. If we have Dawson lined up once WBA have a replacement, how binding is the agreement? If his agent knows he'll be leaving, surely he'll be touting him for a better deal.

And what if WBA miss out on their target?

I'm not complaining about how we are doing our business, I understand how the market works but it's certainly not without risk.

[Vegas Claret]

Would be true freedom for players though wouldn't it? Obviously they'd have to take care of their own training, medical etc, but their pay would be absolutely astronomical!

But how would you chose whose name to put on the back of your shirt ?

[Saxoman]

But how would you chose whose name to put on the back of your shirt ?

Buy a new shirt for the game accordingly. Money spinning, ysee?

[HatfieldClaret]

Are Saxoman & KRBFC the same ?

They do tend to agree a lot.

[Saxoman]

Are Saxoman & KRBFC the same ?

They do tend to agree a lot.

Where?

[HatfieldClaret]

Virtually every time you post.

KRBFC gone silent ? strange that.

[Saxoman]

Virtually every time you post.

KRBFC gone silent ? strange that.

At start of the thread, ah OK. No just co incidence. Anyone who was on the footymad network will know how far back I go.

[tiger76]

But unfortunately you can still be gazumped. If we have Dawson lined up once WBA have a replacement, how binding is the agreement? If his agent knows he'll be leaving, surely he'll be touting him for a better deal.

And what if WBA miss out on their target?

I'm not complaining about how we are doing our business, I understand how the market works but it's certainly not without risk.

If the Dawson interest is genuine great, but we should have other irons in the fire, so we don't get burnt again like last time.

[Dom]

But unfortunately you can still be gazumped. If we have Dawson lined up once WBA have a replacement, how binding is the agreement? If his agent knows he'll be leaving, surely he'll be touting him for a better deal.

And what if WBA miss out on their target?

I'm not complaining about how we are doing our business, I understand how the market works but it's certainly not without risk.

Dawson is a relatively local lad and I guess that works in our favour if he does fancy being that bit closer to family, I know he has a house round here already so it's a straight forward move really.
He wanted to sign for us a couple of years ago but it was pulled last minute, we can't put ourselves in the same situation again, West Brom and Pulis are a pain in the arse.

[ExistentialWanderer]

Didn't WBA get bought out by a Chinese consortium? Or is Jeremy Peace still there? Mind you if they're anything like that Fawaz at Forest was, it'll be no better than dealing with Peace.