Jack Walkers dead chant

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:55 pm

The idiots are out in force tonight.

The Sofa Shifter · Post by **The Sofa Shifter** » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:12 pm

Saxoman wrote:The idiots are out in force tonight.

They always seem to be where you are don't they? Strange that.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:13 pm

joey13 wrote:That'll be why Walker was only allowed to be in the country for so many days per year , if he had stayed one day over he would have been arrested for tax avoidance.

Gary Barlow avoided paying tax and has had to pay up because by avoiding paying tax he acted illegally.

I don't know who is advising you about tax, but I'd suggest you give up listening to them. They haven't a clue.

Walker was allowed to be in the country for as many days as he liked, but if he had gone over a certain number (possibly 90, but not my specialism) he would have been determined to be UK resident and would have had to pay UK tax on virtually all his income. He would not have been arrested.

Gary Barlow had a clever scheme which wasn't as clever as he thought, so had to pay the tax he thought he had avoided. He wasn't so much acting illegally, more that he was trying to avoid tax in a convoluted (and expensive) artificial way, and found it didn't work.

If you open an ISA, at least until this year when the rules changed, you were avoiding tax. If you have deliberately avoided opening an ISA because you thought it was illegal, then you've wasted your money.

1968claret · Post by **1968claret** » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:16 pm

1- I don't particularly like the song. Doesn't make me feel ashamed to be a Burnley fan but it is classless.
2- yes his daughter still has a box at Ewood and goes on the matches
3- the argument that "well they sing horrible songs so why shouldn't we?" Sounds pretty childish
4- Tax avoidance is not illegal or criminal. Evasion is and can be treated criminally.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:23 pm

joey13 wrote:That'll be why Walker was only allowed to be in the country for so many days per year , if he had stayed one day over he would have been arrested for tax avoidance.

Gary Barlow avoided paying tax and has had to pay up because by avoiding paying tax he acted illegally.

Don't be such a dick! If he had stayed "one day over" he would have had a tax bill, he wouldn't have been arrested!!

Barlow evaded tax by putting his money in a scheme that was concocted purely as a tax vehicle. The investment company lost the court case and everyone had to pay tax. He didn't act illegally.

Go and do some reading on the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:26 pm

Can all the accountants stop bringing facts into this argument. Facts ruin threads.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:27 pm

To be honest, any chants aimed at Blackburn right now is cingeworthy - we are past them & it is just weird to obsess over singing 'till we play ******* rovers' all the time!

Get over them and forgot about them - till next time.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:30 pm

Ps - for all the "but they sang this about Ben Lee" arguments, I sadly remember singing songs about certain chairmen having heart attacks and lying on the carpet in my youthful days. Frankly, I do regret that. Not big, not clever.

To the youths and billy big ******** out there, when you learn to sing a song at a reasonable cadence then I'll listen to your "this is a great chant" claims.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:48 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:Ps - for all the "but they sang this about Ben Lee" arguments, I sadly remember singing songs about certain chairmen having heart attacks and lying on the carpet in my youthful days. Frankly, I do regret that. Not big, not clever.

To the youths and billy big ******** out there, when you learn to sing a song at a reasonable cadence then I'll listen to your "this is a great chant" claims.

Jack never had any heart attack ..

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:57 pm

CoolClaret wrote:To be honest, any chants aimed at Blackburn right now is cingeworthy - we are past them & it is just weird to obsess over singing 'till we play ******* rovers' all the time!

Get over them and forgot about them - till next time.

Exactly we can embarrass them in plenty of other ways,chicken references,horse references,visiting Shrewsbury while were going to Wembley

all relevant to their current plight,Walker's legacy has harmed them in the long term, because many of their newer and younger fans became entitled (pun intended),and now the glory games against the Manures and Liverpools of this world have ceased, they have reverted back to a middling 2nd/3rd level team as they were in the 70s and 80s,the difference is the huge debt they are burdened with plus the Premier League monies increasingly year on year. We don't need to mock them our reserves did the talking on the pitch last night that's enough for me.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:02 am

The Shrewsbury Wembley chant was my favourite of the night!

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:05 am

Are they still ripping fans off to watch games at Wembley?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:08 am

Steddyman wrote:The Shrewsbury Wembley chant was my favourite of the night!

ly we can't claim to have invented the chant, if you google this chant, several clubs have used it in the past still

to highlight the vast chasm between the clubs currently

Smeghead · Post by **Smeghead** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:08 am

Ah yes - the old an eye for an eye argument. Truly pathetic and utterly depressing.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:09 am

Saxoman wrote:Are they still ripping fans off to watch games at Wembley?

Why would you be bothered? Fancy your chances in the Checkatrade Trophy, do you?

Dressinggown · Post by **Dressinggown** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:28 am

The chant was "Will we play .....Rovers, No Never no more".

Signifying that we were a division (or two) above them.

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:32 am

Saxoman wrote:Are they still ripping fans off to watch games at Wembley?

No. It's 30 quid a ticket next Sunday. The day after you entertain M K Dons.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:37 am

I wish we could end all this tribal stupidity, we are a million times better than Blackburn Rovers right now, time to show some class.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:51 am

boatshed bill wrote:I wish we could end all this tribal stupidity, we are a million times better than Blackburn Rovers right now, time to show some class.

And in terms of money ..tens of millions better who would have thought that ten years ago.utc!

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:53 am

Dressinggown wrote:The chant was "Will we play .....Rovers, No Never no more".

Signifying that we were a division (or two) above them.

You'll be amazed how many of our fans don't actually realise this.

File under "Um pah pah" and In the Lancashire Rose".

Dressinggown · Post by **Dressinggown** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:12 am

fidelcastro wrote:You'll be amazed how many of our fans don't actually realise this.

File under "Um pah pah" and In the Lancashire Rose".

Yes, it's based on the Malcolm McLaren track 'Double Dutch'. Definitely 'Um ba ba'.

Let's get it reyt.

Dressinggown · Post by **Dressinggown** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:20 am

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All the jumping on the terraces was class. No other club had it or did it.

'The skip we do is the Double Dutch that's why were are dancing'.

Memories.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:30 am

tybfc wrote:No. It's 30 quid a ticket next Sunday. The day after you entertain M K Dons.

Not bad at all.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:32 am

Dressinggown wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STCTCgQ3XJU

All the jumping on the terraces was class. No other club had it or did it.

'The skip we do is the Double Dutch that's why were are dancing'.

Memories.

Malcolm McLaren is dead, Malcolm McLaren is deeeeeead. Long live simon cowell, McLaren is dead..

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:38 am

MACCA wrote:If it gets under the Rovers fans skin, it is doing it's no. The more people complain, the more it will get sung.

Rightly or wrongly fans and people in general will make songs and jokes about deaths, convictions or anything that gets a rise.

It's the way of the world now a days I'm affraid.

There's right and wrong on both sides, and doesn't look like changing, and you have 3 options.
1. Embrace it
2. Ignore it
3. Do something about it.

But 1 fact is, wanting change things by pleading on a internet message board, will achieve absolutely nothing.

The OP wasn't pleading. Just pointing out that it's shameful. It doesn't really bother me and it doesn't really bother Blackburn fans. It just marks you as a scrubber. No decent person would sing it.

It's only the way of the world if you accept that to be part of your world. Rightly or wrongly? Where's the rightly in that?

You are a dick

thelaughingclaret · Post by **thelaughingclaret** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:40 am

Some people on this forum are snowflakes and need to get a grip.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:46 am

It doesn't bother me. Sing things like that though and you are a scrubber in my eyes

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:48 am

Same type of person that's spits in the street

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:53 am

And drops litter. Don't worry, the decent people outnumber you and carry you through life. We've got your back

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:37 am

I think it stems from the bad taste of Blackburn fans over the years and similar chants by them directed at us.

Obviously it would be the adult thing not to drop to their level, but what do you expect? There is a lot of hate stored and a lot of satisfaction doing what their fans did to us, back to them.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:16 am

it's shambolic, pretty sad it's the best we can come up with. First line is fine, second is pathetic

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:27 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:Some of our fans really need to get a grip. If you don't like offensive songs then football isn't the place for you. Try the theatre or something.

Surely whether or not you like watching football is the question to ask before going to watch a football match. Why do people still think it is ok to use football matches as an excuse to act like plonkers?

BFCmaj · Post by **BFCmaj** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:37 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:File also alongside scientiifically innacurate songs about interbreeding.

The irony is that they don't realise that interbreeding actually means to breed with another species, for example horses and suchlike.

Maybe we should sing,
Mr Edd's your dad,
Black Beauty's your mum.
You're interbred,
You Blackburn sc*m!

Actually, scrap that, that would make them just horses.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:18 am

Saxoman wrote:Jack never had any heart attack ..

I know that you prized plonker.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:46 am

It's a disgusting chant, coupled with the heart attack one.

As said above the people who glorify in this can't be reasoned with, so there is no way we can stop it being sung.

Last season I used to boo our own fans who sang the chant, ended up having two clarets square up to me in the CFS. Nothing happened just a lot of back and forth That was the first time I saw them at the game and the last. Complete knuckledraggers.

Stay classy Burnley, NNN.

Healeywoodclaret · Post by **Healeywoodclaret** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:07 am

Steddyman wrote:Am I the only one that cringes at this? I feel ashamed to be a Burnley fan when this chant goes around.

We were playing at Blackburn FFS. Some of his family could have even been present at the game.

Totally classless and we should be better than that.

Agree. Very poor taste.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:13 am

At least if they are singing that one they are not singing "town full of p***s".

I don't sing it, but I certainly did the Bill Fox one when I was younger and if they keep singing about incest, then its not like they have some moral high horse is it?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:14 am

Rumbletonk wrote:The OP wasn't pleading. Just pointing out that it's shameful. It doesn't really bother me and it doesn't really bother Blackburn fans. It just marks you as a scrubber. No decent person would sing it.

It's only the way of the world if you accept that to be part of your world. Rightly or wrongly? Where's the rightly in that?

You are a dick

Wow. How to insult 50%+ Burnley fans in 1 go.

How do you make it not part of your world to make you a less of a d1ck than me?

You don't, you just get on with life.

I just wish more people would be as passionate about real life problems around the country, than a song sang at a football ground towards a rival that if picking the bones out of really isn't much of an issue.

But I'm sure you go around voicing your opinions on a whole host of subjects when it's not through a computer..

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:15 am

I think it's a great song but the highlight of this thread has to be joey13's contribution on tax affairs.

Jack avoided paying tax, eh? Typical. That's what Hitler would have done.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:18 am

Just to clarify it's the Long Live The Venky one people are talking about...

People are bringing the other nasty chant in to discussion, which I don't think I've heard for a while ( but didn't go Tuesday)

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:18 am

just wish more people would be as passionate about real life problems around the country

Like paying tax?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:30 am

joey13 wrote:That'll be why Walker was only allowed to be in the country for so many days per year , if he had stayed one day over he would have been arrested for tax avoidance.

Gary Barlow avoided paying tax and has had to pay up because by avoiding paying tax he acted illegally.

So Walker was operating with the legal laws then?

Cheers for clearing it up.

Tinribs · Post by **Tinribs** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:43 am

It will never be as bad as the night of the youth cup game at the Turf a good few years ago.When blackburn fans went through the entire line up singing "number 1 s@@@s his mum"
Disgusting to youth team lads with their families watching.
So little Sympathy after that from me.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:44 am

MACCA wrote:Just to clarify it's the Long Live The Venky one people are talking about...

People are bringing the other nasty chant in to discussion, which I don't think I've heard for a while ( but didn't go Tuesday)

It was aired numerous times MACCA unfortunately. It gets sung far less at the turf that's for sure.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:52 am

Sing away if it makes you happy, just remember that the majority of people probably think you are classless idiots - but that's your prerogative.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:52 am

It's shameful. Turn it around and imagine they sang bile about a dead Claret. How would we feel?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:54 am

ecc wrote:It's shameful. Turn it around and imagine they sang bile about a dead Claret. How would we feel?

Yes but remember that they aren't celebrating his death, and Rovers fans once sung something about a dead Burnley fan, so ner

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:51 am

MACCA wrote:Wow. How to insult 50%+ Burnley fans in 1 go.

How do you make it not part of your world to make you a less of a d1ck than me?

That's way too deep for me. No idea

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:53 am

Jack Walker was a good bloke who had passion for his local club...irrespective of our allegiances, mocking the dead is completely and utterly disgusting....shame on any of our fans who sing this disgusting song....support your team ffs....dont mock the dead....utc.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:02 am

Sidney1st wrote:So Walker was operating with the legal laws then?

Cheers for clearing it up.

" it Isn't illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane... Maybe since 9/11 when everyone got so damn sensitive. Thanks a lot Bin Laden!"