Hurricane Irma

groove · Post by **groove** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:52 pm

Hurricane Annie ripped the ceiling off the church and killed everyone inside.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:53 pm

groove wrote:Hurricane Annie ripped the ceiling off the church and killed everyone inside.

There was violence on both sides.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:02 pm

I hope Trump isn't playing golf like Obama was through Katrina!

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:08 pm

morpheus2 wrote:I hope Trump isn't playing golf like Obama was through Katrina!

Playing golf must be a nightmare in those conditions

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:11 pm

Dyched wrote:Playing golf must be a nightmare in those conditions

Fazakerley

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:12 pm

morpheus2 wrote:I hope Trump isn't playing golf like Obama was through Katrina!

Obama wasn't even in the Oval Office on 9/11 either. The traitor: https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/the-daily- ... 38639.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:15 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Obama wasn't even in the Oval Office on 9/11 either. The traitor: https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/the-daily- ... 38639.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah yeah yeah, you'll tell us owt and then come up with some fancy links and stuff, nobody believes you!

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:25 pm

Politicians have a limited effect on repairing hurricane damage. Trump went to Houston so that he could get a few good photo ops, and say something like "We're behind you 100% with our thoughts and prayers," while the real work is being done by FEMA and the Red Cross.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:58 pm

dsr wrote:If this hurricane hits the Dominican Republic, it'll be the 2nd category 5 hurricane to do so in the last 100 years. They've had 13 altogether in that time, but only two of them hit the tourist area on the east coast.

http://puntacanabavaro.com/news/dont-be ... eason.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Herbert was the first hurricane to hit the USA in 12 years. They aren't that common.

I just plucked it off the projected path in all honesty

Hurricane or not I know quite a few people who go to the Caribbean/USA in our Autumn and wonder why it is wet

Had a few violent storms in Belize in 1986 but fortunately not Hurricane strength.

Tw@ · Post by **Tw@** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:24 pm

It's heading straight towards St Martin and will hit it tomorrow evening

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:05 pm

ontario claret wrote:Politicians have a limited effect on repairing hurricane damage. Trump went to Houston so that he could get a few good photo ops, and say something like "We're behind you 100% with our thoughts and prayers," while the real work is being done by FEMA and the Red Cross.

Exactly, it's all image. But look how Teresa May was pilloried because she didn't go down to Grenfell Tower after the fire for a few photo ops. Corbyn went down, said all sorts of nice things about what he could do if only he was in power, and got the good press.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:22 pm

ontario claret wrote:Politicians have a limited effect on repairing hurricane damage. Trump went to Houston so that he could get a few good photo ops, and say something like "We're behind you 100% with our thoughts and prayers," while the real work is being done by FEMA and the Red Cross.

The problem Trump had was that he went and stayed out fo the way, which is good. But then he lied about his visit and said he met with victims and as always with that guy it's his lies that gets him into trouble. Lying is a compulsion for him.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:15 am

Interesting footage of a plane going inside it, on the BBC website. Brave pilot and three cheers for those that can engineer such a vehicle.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:31 am

The table below depicts all hurricanes that have made landfall in North Carolina alone. Kinda disproves the postulation above

Storm Name Classification year wind
Isabel Category 5 2003 145
Floyd Category 4 1999 135
Unnamed Category 4 1899 130
Unnamed Category 4 1910 130
Donna Category 4 1960 125
Gloria Category 4 1985 125
Unnamed Category 4 1933 120
Connie Category 4 1955 120
Ione Category 4. 1955 120
Diana Category 4 1984 115
Unnamed Category 3 1883 110
Isbell Category 3 1964 110
Unnamed Category 3 1894 105
Kate Category 3 1985 105 954
Fran Category 3 1996 105 946
Irene Category 3 2011 105
Unnamed Category 3 1852 100
Unnamed Category 3 1876 100
Unnamed Category 3 1879 100
Bertha Category 3 1996 100
Bonnie Category 3 1998 100
Unnamed Category 2 1888 95
Ginger Category 2 1971 95
Unnamed Category 2 1857 90
Unnamed Category 2 1878 90
Unnamed Category 2 1881 90
Diane Category 2 1955 90
Dennis Category 2 1999 90
Unnamed Category 2 1945 85
Arthur Category 2 2014 85
Barbara Category 1 1953 80
Unnamed Category 1 1913 75
Unnamed Category 1 1920 75
Unnamed Category 1 1861 70
Unnamed Category 1 1861 70
Unnamed Category 1 1872 70
Unnamed Category 1 1880 70
Unnamed Category 1 1897 70
Unnamed Category 1 1901 70
Unnamed Category 1 1901 70
Unnamed Category 1 1908

Source the climate office of North Carolina

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:28 am

I have a dear friend living in Fredrikstad , USVI. So for all of you joking and posturing about climate change and "we were on jolly hols and a leaf hit my caipirinha" you can **** right off. This shits real.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:13 am

Just wish it would shrink to a couple of miles avoid most places where there are folk, give plenty of time for safe evacuation and hit Mar-a-Logo trashing it; then we will see what Trump decides about climate change.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:32 am

Don't worry, The Donald's on the case!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:56 pm

False alarm. It turns out it's all a deep-state/liberal conspiracy. http://www.newsweek.com/irma-hurricane- ... ate-659890" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ightenclaret · Post by **Ightenclaret** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:59 pm

That thing could fit nicely in France.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:15 pm

Did a lesbian cause this one? Or was it the last one?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:03 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Very first ******* sentence proves me right and you wrong.
"Hurricane Harvey was the first major hurricane to make landfall in the United States since Wilma in 2005, ending a record 12-year period with no major hurricanes making landfall in the country."

How did you think this was going to help you? Did you even read your own source?

dsr went very quiet, very quickly after this

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:05 pm

As if it could get any worse

A third tropical storm, Jose, has formed further out in the Atlantic behind Irma, and is expected to become a hurricane later on Wednesday, according to the US National Hurricane Center.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:10 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:dsr went very quiet, very quickly after this

I'LL TYPE IN CAPITALS IF IT HELPS YOU READ IT BETTER.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:14 pm

I'd prefer it if you didn't pass off incorrect information as fact, actually

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:14 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Very first ******* sentence proves me right and you wrong.
"Hurricane Harvey was the first major hurricane to make landfall in the United States since Wilma in 2005, ending a record 12-year period with no major hurricanes making landfall in the country."

How did you think this was going to help you? Did you even read your own source?

You have caught me out in a detail, so you can once again feel fully justified that you have retained your crown as nitpicker of the year. I still reckon that hurricanes are rare enough that you don't need to change holiday plans because of it, but obviously that word "major" makes all the difference.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:16 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I'd prefer it if you didn't pass off incorrect information as fact, actually

You may be sad enough to factcheck every single detail in every single post before you post it. I'm not. And if in the process I make a small and scarfcely relevant mistake, and that upsets you, tough.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:28 pm

dsr wrote:You may be sad enough to factcheck every single detail in every single post before you post it. I'm not. And if in the process I make a small and scarfcely relevant mistake, and that upsets you, tough.

Scarcely relevent? You said there were no ******* Hurricanes to hit the U.S. for 12 years. That's not a small mistake of fact. And if you're too lazy to fact check something as unbelievable as that then you shouldn't be passing it off as accurate information in the first place.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:30 pm

dsr wrote:You have caught me out in a detail, so you can once again feel fully justified that you have retained your crown as nitpicker of the year. I still reckon that hurricanes are rare enough that you don't need to change holiday plans because of it, but obviously that word "major" makes all the difference.

My complaint wasn't about holiday plans, i don't give a **** about peoples holiday plans. My problem was with you yet again spreading the same propoganda and lies that are peddled by climate change deniers.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:52 pm

Obviously switching through multiple profiles is confusing.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:08 pm

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:27 pm

tiger76 wrote:As if it could get any worse

A third tropical storm, Jose, has formed further out in the Atlantic behind Irma, and is expected to become a hurricane later on Wednesday, according to the US National Hurricane Center.

Don't worry. That tropical storm , should it develop into a hurricane, will just spout numbers, and force itself onto television weather programs to argue its case.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:11 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:My complaint wasn't about holiday plans, i don't give a **** about peoples holiday plans. My problem was with you yet again spreading the same propoganda and lies that are peddled by climate change deniers.

Why on EARTH are you coming on message boards to complain and complain about other peoples' conversations? JohnMac made a comment about not booking cheap holidays in the Dominican Republic at this time of year, I mentioned that major hurricanes are very rare in the Dominican Republic and that hurricanes are rare even in the USA.

And from that, you've gone off on one because I should have used the word "major" a second time because lesser hurricanes have hit the USA. Well, I have already apologised for that, and once again I will apologise, because I cannot imagine the distress this minor slip has caused you.

And then you've gone off on another one because you think I've was on about climate change. What are you on? If I say that 13 hurricanes have hit the Dominican Republic in a hundred years, you think I'm on about climate change? If I say hurricanes are rare in the USA, you think I'm on about climate change? What happens if someone comes up to you in the street and says it looks like rain, do you assume they're going on about climate change? You're obsessed with climate change. If I talk about climate change, you'll be able to tell without ridiculous guesswork.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:23 pm

This board is becoming ridiculous, it seems to be a stage for every keyboard warrior to vent whatever they want. I have met CT on numerous occasions and he comes across as a very educated level headed bloke with a massive passion for our team so how this b0ll0cks is allowed to carry on with the ammounf of mods we have is beyond me. I'm all for free speach but I'm sure there are other places this can be expressed on rather than a football forum. At times it seems this is the place for certain individuals entertainment, and if there is nothing to their liking, they create it. Can we have the forum back to what it should be please?

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:40 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Scarcely relevent? You said there were no ******* Hurricanes to hit the U.S. for 12 years. That's not a small mistake of fact. And if you're too lazy to fact check something as unbelievable as that then you shouldn't be passing it off as accurate information in the first place.

Hi IT, what do you make of the Kerry Emanuel research?

Huff Post: "Hurricanes And Climate Change: Storms Likely To Get Stronger And More Frequent, Study Shows"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/0 ... 67007.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's dated July-2013. Has this been "proved" or "disproved" in the 4 years since? Is the modelling method reliable of flawed?

I've got to admit, I don't know which side of the climate change debate Huffington Post is on.

OffTheBar · Post by **OffTheBar** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:58 pm

What! Not everything written on here is in reference to some kind of political stance? No. I won't have it.

Jel · Post by **Jel** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:09 pm

starting_11 wrote:Don't worry, The Donald's on the case!

Seriously though, I wonder what would happen if you did nuke it?

john'sroseyspecs · Post by **john'sroseyspecs** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:15 pm

Are you inside Donald's head? Bet he's asked!

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:18 pm

Good question, could the blast disrupt the storm enough to dissipate it or would it just make the storm radioactive and even more deadly.

As this is a storm related thread, we have also seen two rather large (X rated) solar flares today one being an x9.3 the largest since 2006.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:25 pm

Jel wrote:Seriously though, I wonder what would happen if you did nuke it?

You'd irradiate it. That's about it.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:35 pm

dsr wrote:Why on EARTH are you coming on message boards to complain and complain about other peoples' conversations? JohnMac made a comment about not booking cheap holidays in the Dominican Republic at this time of year, I mentioned that major hurricanes are very rare in the Dominican Republic and that hurricanes are rare even in the USA.

And from that, you've gone off on one because I should have used the word "major" a second time because lesser hurricanes have hit the USA. Well, I have already apologised for that, and once again I will apologise, because I cannot imagine the distress this minor slip has caused you.

And then you've gone off on another one because you think I've was on about climate change. What are you on? If I say that 13 hurricanes have hit the Dominican Republic in a hundred years, you think I'm on about climate change? If I say hurricanes are rare in the USA, you think I'm on about climate change? What happens if someone comes up to you in the street and says it looks like rain, do you assume they're going on about climate change? You're obsessed with climate change. If I talk about climate change, you'll be able to tell without ridiculous guesswork.

Yeah, because that's the only reason I use this board - to complain about you. I don't give a **** who'se conversation it is on here if you peddle a lie like that i'm going to correct you.

I don't care about the part of your posts that said major hurricanes are rare in the dominican. That's not what i corrected. You peddled the denialist lie about no U.S. hurricanes for 12 years and then tried to pretend that it wasn't a big deal that you were wrong. And now again you're trying to call it a "minor slip". If it was a minor slip then why are climate change deniers constantly repeating it? We both know why.

I didn't say you were on about climate change. I said it was a popular climate change denier lie. It's perfectly possible to slip in denialist lies without actually talking about climage change. Want proof? That's what you did. You're a climate change denier and in a discussion about hurricane you slipped in a climate change denier lie.

If you want to spread lies where you're not going to have your lies challenged then go ahead and visit http://www.reddit.com/r/climateskeptics" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Your anti-science bullshit will be welcome there. But if you spread lies on here and get called out then just do what everyone else like you does and hit "report".

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:22 pm

it's pretty much flattened St Martin

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:23 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Hi IT, what do you make of the Kerry Emanuel research?

Huff Post: "Hurricanes And Climate Change: Storms Likely To Get Stronger And More Frequent, Study Shows"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/0 ... 67007.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's dated July-2013. Has this been "proved" or "disproved" in the 4 years since? Is the modelling method reliable of flawed?

I've got to admit, I don't know which side of the climate change debate Huffington Post is on.

:shruggs:

It's published in PNAS so you can be confident the methodology is sound, and a quick Googling of it doesn't yield any red flags so the research is sure to be good. Plus it's Kerry Emanuel, his theory of hurricane intensity is still used today, 30 years later.

But it won't have been proven because science doesn't prove things, and it probably hasn't been disproven since it's a forecast of tropical cyclone numbers for the next 8 decades and it's only been 4 years since the research was published. It's not an area of climate science that's well understood relative to pretty much every other area. Forecasting them is itself a forecast based on forecasts. The uncertainties of any hurricane prediction modeling are multiplied by the uncertainties in atmospheric warming & the increase in surface sea temperatures.

Edit: many drunk typos fixed.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:51 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Yeah, because that's the only reason I use this board - to complain about you. I don't give a **** who'se conversation it is on here if you peddle a lie like that i'm going to correct you.

I don't care about the part of your posts that said major hurricanes are rare in the dominican. That's not what i corrected. You peddled the denialist lie about no U.S. hurricanes for 12 years and then tried to pretend that it wasn't a big deal that you were wrong. And now again you're trying to call it a "minor slip". If it was a minor slip then why are climate change deniers constantly repeating it? We both know why.

I didn't say you were on about climate change. I said it was a popular climate change denier lie. It's perfectly possible to slip in denialist lies without actually talking about climage change. Want proof? That's what you did. You're a climate change denier and in a discussion about hurricane you slipped in a climate change denier lie.

If you want to spread lies where you're not going to have your lies challenged then go ahead and visit http://www.reddit.com/r/climateskeptics" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Your anti-science bullshit will be welcome there. But if you spread lies on here and get called out then just do what everyone else like you does and hit "report".

If you were half as clever as you think you are, then you'd be twice as clever as you really are. Honestly, until now I took you seriously most of the time, but you genuinely are a full-time wind-up merchant. No-one could be so consistently arrogant and mean it.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:24 am

dsr wrote:If you were half as clever as you think you are, then you'd be twice as clever as you really are. Honestly, until now I took you seriously most of the time, but you genuinely are a full-time wind-up merchant. No-one could be so consistently arrogant and mean it.

As long as i'm right I don't care how arrogant you think I am.

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:13 am

Jel wrote:Seriously though, I wonder what would happen if you did nuke it?

Purple rain

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:34 am

Forecast is through central east Florida, head out to sea slightly to pick up more moisture, then landfall again in South Carolina

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/vis-animated.gif

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:37 am

Prime minister of Antigua and Barbuda being interviewed about the devastation of Barbuda

https://www.yahoo.com/news/antigua-barb ... soc_trk=ma

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:20 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:You'd irradiate it. That's about it.

Can you be sure that's what would happen, wheres the science that proves that theory.

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:36 am

Its gutting to see what its done to Barbuda. I visited the island about 15 years ago, its probably the most beautiful place I've ever been to. The guide took us to his house where his wife cooked us a meal - we all sat around the table with his family, his kids were the most polite and well mannered kids I'd met. Everybody lived in wooden houses / everybody was very friendly / they loved the British (not sure if its still owned by Britain) / zero crime. They wouldn't accept a tip when we left and I promised to send the kids an England shirt (which I unfortunately never got round to doing). I hope they are OK.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:25 am

FulledgeClaret wrote:Can you be sure that's what would happen, wheres the science that proves that theory.

In Hiroshima Claret's garden.