England Manager sacked.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:17 pm

No not that one

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41326806" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:20 pm

Shame it's not Pep Slothgate.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:24 pm

Foshiznik wrote:Shame it's not Pep Slothgate.

How unkind

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:25 pm

If I had to guess, a conversation went...

"Well, that's OK. Mark's in the clear over the Aluko thing."
"Yes; hopefully there's nothing else in his past"
"Do you remember that fuss over inappropriate behaviour a few years back?"
"Yes. He was cleared. I never saw the details. Did you?"
"No."
"Did anybody?"
"Errr... no.... oh ****!. Get me the details... ****! Was he okayed to continue after this?"
"Yes"
"Why?"
"Pre-Bennell. Different time."
"What would we do now?"
"Sack him"
"Right then......"

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:28 pm

witch hunt ...

Leon C · Post by **Leon C** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:29 pm

Tom Ace.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:31 pm

I always had something against him. I think it was the fact that he was Welsh.

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:39 pm

What other job do you get cleared of wrong doing...twice and still get the sack?

Kick it out have too much say in the game. They have done good in the past but recent it seems they can't accept a not guilty verdict?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:42 pm

He's better off out of it.....an unfair dismissal claim will follow.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:46 pm

bf2k wrote:What other job do you get cleared of wrong doing...twice and still get the sack?

Kick it out have too much say in the game. They have done good in the past but recent it seems they can't accept a not guilty verdict?

You have noticed the FA stressing it's not related to the Aluko thing, haven't you? If they wanted to sack him over that, they could have. While there are doubtless people who will now have an agenda against Sampson because of how he acted to the brave, fearless, noble truth-seeker Aluko (or the tawdry, brazen liar Aluko playing the race card because it's easier than winning your place back - your money, your choice), if they found something else that merited this action, so be it.

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:05 pm

Might be connected:

Tweets by Eni Aluko....

"It goes without saying I'm delighted, relieved, blessed to be sat where I am right now. Blessings in disguise are often the best blessings."

8:02 PM - Sep 19, 2017

"For the most together team in the world tonight's "message" only shows a level of disrespect that represents division and selfish action."

8:08 PM - Sep 19, 2017

Eni Aluko hits out at 'selfish' England Women after public show of support for under-fire boss Mark Sampson

The exuberant scenes after Nikita Parris netted the 11th-minute opener against Russia were the clearest indication yet that Sampson has the full support of his players

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 56501.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some interesting comments!

rufus lumley · Post by **rufus lumley** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:12 pm

Time to bring not a Hope of winning anything Powell back men managers are all useless.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:15 pm

rufus lumley wrote:Time to bring not a Hope of winning anything Powell back men managers are all useless.

Can we have that again...

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:25 pm

Click bait

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:31 pm

It might very well be a witch hunt but, yet again, it's the FA that are coming out of this with dirty hands. What on earth is going on? This is not someone who has sneaked through the system decades ago. This is a man that has been dismissed due to a serious safeguarding issue, in the modern era, whilst heading up the academy at Bristol. Regardless of what the issue is, the FA have turned their backs on the matter, to protect' (in their words) the innocent party. Heads should roll. Our Football Association is run by a group of corrupt officials. And we call FIFA fit to burn...

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:37 pm

jdrobbo wrote:It might very well be a witch hunt but, yet again, it's the FA that are coming out of this with dirty hands. What on earth is going on? This is not someone who has sneaked through the system decades ago. This is a man that has been dismissed due to a serious safeguarding issue. Regardless of what the issue is, the FA have turned their backs on the matter, to protect' (in their words) the innocent party. Heads should roll. Our Football Association is run by a group of corrupt officials. And we call FIFA fit to burn...

The FA Committees who cleared him of wrongdoing in the racism case did such a whitewashing job that they've been called to report to Parliament over it.

And people still think Aluko is the one in the wrong. Stitch up.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:56 pm

Walton wrote:The FA Committees who cleared him of wrongdoing in the racism case did such a whitewashing job that they've been called to report to Parliament over it.

And people still think Aluko is the one in the wrong. Stitch up.

I'll take the word of the independent barrister thanks.
Not sure why you expect anyone to think your more clued up than her about this situation to be honest.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:15 pm

Damo wrote:I'll take the word of the independent barrister thanks.
Not sure why you expect anyone to think your more clued up than her about this situation to be honest.

She didn't even take evidence from the player who he insulted, so I wouldn't take her word for it at all.

Whitewash from the outset.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:16 pm

Sounds like there's more than one instance of his having an inappropriate relationship with a member (or members) of a female U18 squad he was previously responsible for.

No laws broken apparently, but not exactly a healthy situation. Given that this was investigated before he got the England job, you have to wonder what kind of due diligence was done.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:22 pm

Yet more breath-taking my inept conduct from the FA. When are these people going to admit that THEY are not up to the job?

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:25 pm

Good friends with Mike Jolly, apparently

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:31 pm

Walton wrote:The FA Committees who cleared him of wrongdoing in the racism case did such a whitewashing job that they've been called to report to Parliament over it.

And people still think Aluko is the one in the wrong. Stitch up.

So, a Select Committee hearing being called means there was wrongdoing? I thought it was a process to understand the facts. Unless, of course, you've already made your mind up.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:34 pm

Bloody hell....I didn't see that one coming!

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:35 pm

Not very professional to be sleeping with members of your team. It's a different kind of team bonding I guess.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:42 pm

Really?

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:44 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Not very professional to be sleeping with members of your team. It's a different kind of team bonding I guess.

Is that allegedly...? Or fact...?

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:47 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Not very professional to be sleeping with members of your team. It's a different kind of team bonding I guess.

A bloke sleeping with a butch lesbian? Whatever for?

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:50 pm

Horrible witch hunt,though once the chip on shoulder woman played the race card the FA did all they could to sack Sampson but cleared twice they still didn't want even the merest whiff of any "sexism/racism " so found somat else to sack him for .Lets face it who Wouldn't be sh@gging the str8 ones in a woman's team ? Seems the teammates really backed him as well.More shocking FA generation snowflake behaviour .

Some of the righteous indignation and "feminazis" which were out in force on BBC radio 5 live yesterday just didn't want to know he'd been cleared twice really beggared belief .

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:52 pm

Who the hell's going to want the job after all this ?
Will they feel honour bound to bring Eni Aluko back into the Squad, and how will that play with the current players after what she's tweeted about them !

From what we've been told. it seems that only person to lose their job in all this, is the person who's been cleared in three seperate enquiries of wrongdoing !!

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:13 pm

Steve1956 wrote:A bloke sleeping with a butch lesbian? Whatever for?

Well it was inappropriate but might not have been to that extent maybe a lesser form of inappropriate.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:20 pm

Clarets4me wrote:Who the hell's going to want the job after all this ?
Will they feel honour bound to bring Eni Aluko back into the Squad, and how will that play with the current players after what she's tweeted about them !

From what we've been told. it seems that only person to lose their job in all this, is the person who's been cleared in three seperate enquiries of wrongdoing !!

He's been sacked for inappropriate and unacceptable conduct at Bristol Academy - it's a report from 2015 which wasn't read in full by top brass until last week they deemed it too much But if you want to know more you'd have to ask one of the women who were in Bristol Academy's first team between about 2009 and 2012. - Unless someone leaks it to the press.

He essentially needed counseling in what was acceptable behavior of a football coach towards young women he was coaching.

They say he would have been sacked in 2015 if they'd read the report then.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:26 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Well it was inappropriate but might not have been to that extent maybe a lesser form of inappropriate.

He might have been sleeping with two butch lesbian's then you mean?

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:44 pm

Whatever the rights and wrongs the FA have made themselves look like incompetent fools.

DuckworthsEA · Post by **DuckworthsEA** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:01 pm

Walton wrote:The FA Committees who cleared him of wrongdoing in the racism case did such a whitewashing job that they've been called to report to Parliament over it.

And people still think Aluko is the one in the wrong. Stitch up.

And how exactly is she in the right?

She has behaved with no class. Twice proven not guilty and she still won't let it go. Pathetic

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:20 pm

The FA truly are shambolic,gutless cowards ,and likely terrified of their own shadows .The way they act vaguely reminds me of one big HR department (in other words utterly useless knee jerk gossips with no idea of either the product or the public they serve .I imagine GregClarke only has to fart and Martin Glenn has the dump for him .

ClaretFelix · Post by **ClaretFelix** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:35 pm

Just heard the interview with the FA. Dear god they've left themselves wide open on this one and I fully expect it to cost them a lot of money when legal proceedings commence.
Basically been sacked by his current employer for something which happened at his old workplace, which was fully disclosed at the time of his new employment with England!!

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:41 pm

As I said he's better off out of, I'm sure a tribunal will find in his favour.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:48 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:Just heard the interview with the FA. Dear god they've left themselves wide open on this one and I fully expect it to cost them a lot of money when legal proceedings commence.
Basically been sacked by his current employer for something which happened at his old workplace, which was fully disclosed at the time of his new employment with England!!

Well that shouldn't surprise anyone where the FA are involved. Daft, I call it.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:59 am

ClaretFelix wrote:Just heard the interview with the FA. Dear god they've left themselves wide open on this one and I fully expect it to cost them a lot of money when legal proceedings commence.
Basically been sacked by his current employer for something which happened at his old workplace, which was fully disclosed at the time of his new employment with England!!

I've just read the article on BBC Sport. I hope the FA gets taken to the cleaners by Sampson.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:43 am

The Football Association is nothing more than a Gentlemen's Club located in a plush building in London. Nearly everything they are involved in is a global joke, from football development to this saga.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:14 am

If Sampson has a case against his employers then so does Big Sam - he didn't do anything illegal either.

Shappie · Post by **Shappie** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:20 am

Did sam resign tho? not sacked?

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:30 pm

Now being said that it was a six-month relationship with a player who was over 18. Not the club 18-30 shagathon that was being intimated last week. If it was undeclared to the Bristol Academy management, I can see the problem; otherwise I'm not sure what the problem is. There are plenty of people who end up dating someone who works for them. In itself, it's not a sacking offence. Perhaps more details will out.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:54 pm

JohnMac wrote:The Football Association is nothing more than a Gentlemen's Club located in a plush building in London. Nearly everything they are involved in is a global joke, from football development to this saga.

My version of gentlemen and yours differs. These are just a bunch of business chancers who shouldn't be allowed near football.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:42 pm

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piston broke wrote:My version of gentlemen and yours differs. These are just a bunch of business chancers who shouldn't be allowed near football.

It's not far from my own Club old chap

GoldenClaret · Post by **GoldenClaret** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:24 pm

Mark Sampson is a terrible manager. About time he got sacked.