shared property question

banjo79 · Post by **banjo79** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:20 am

Hi!
Got a bit of a situation with a neighbour and gathering as much intel as I can before I talk to them about it.
We share an alleyway between our homes and both use it.
Of late however they've been piling up stuff in there, rubbish, DIY materials etc.
Normally this wouldn't be a problem but more stuff keeps appearing to the point where the alley is blocked off and we have to move stuff to get through - wasn't too impressed this morning as I moved waste bits of wood one of which had a big old nail sticking out of it.
Anyhoo, anyone had any experience of this.
Obvs I can't force them to do anything, unless maybe it falls under any kind of legal hoo-hah?
Any advice would be v welcome.
Ta!

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:36 am

Probably best to just have a word with them about it and not start being "that guy" threatening legal precedent.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:37 am

Could be a fire hazard?

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:41 am

Relocate the rubbish/DIY materials in front of their door so they have to move it to leave the house.

They will soon understand your frustration ...

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:42 am

Delicate situation, be careful how you handle. A quiet word should suffice if they are reasonable, and it may just be that they havent had chance to get it down to the tip.

Also check your deeds (if you have access to them) as it will probably state that access must be free and clear at all times. Not necessarily for the tenants benefit but for access for emergency services.

banjo79 · Post by **banjo79** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:56 am

I hadn't thought about checking the deeds, good call.
And I have considered piling it outside their house, although that would cause further aggro.
Not really sure if they are reasonable, i'm cool with it if they haven't had a chance to visit the tip and don't mind them keeping stuff in the alley as long as i dont have to move it to get through

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:28 am

Just tell them you keep seeing rats run out of their stuff in the alley, which will attract them.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:33 am

Time for excrement through the letterbox....

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:35 am

The Deeds to the property are the first point to check, if they are not clear( I think though they will be in regards to the alleyway being kept clear at all times) then a bit of professional advice may prove beneficial before you approach your neighbour. Good luck.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:37 pm

Knock on the door and ask them if it is a temporary situation. If they are struggling maybe offer to assist getting it to the tip if you are able.

Is it just me thinks community is a bygone word?

p.s. If all else fails, dump it in front of their doors

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:01 pm

It's all very well saying be reasonable but these neighbours, who are surely aware that the alley way is shared, are not acting considerately when they block it.

The obvious way is to have a word with them first, if you feel comfortable doing this.

Secondly, as has been mentioned, check the deeds, or lease, to find out what it says about the alley way, which might be known as 'common ground'.

Finally, if having a word fails, contact the Citizens Advice Bureau online:

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housi ... n-housing/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:02 pm

Or send Diesel round.

He is a man of action.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:10 pm

Contact the local council as they may well have a Neighbour's dispute department who can mediate between the two parties

banjo79 · Post by **banjo79** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:15 pm

i really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their opinions, info and links.
i'll be going round at some point over the weekend - they have young children so i am going to be considerate and make sure it's not late etc.
seems like such a quick and easy fix to me, im not asking for the moon, just to respect shared property.
if they decide to be difficult i'll follow that up with action you've all suggested; not comfortable with just leaving it.
will let you know what happens....!!!

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:22 pm

banjo79 wrote:i really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their opinions, info and links.
i'll be going round at some point over the weekend - they have young children so i am going to be considerate and make sure it's not late etc.
seems like such a quick and easy fix to me, im not asking for the moon, just to respect shared property.
if they decide to be difficult i'll follow that up with action you've all suggested; not comfortable with just leaving it.
will let you know what happens....!!!

Best way mate, just go round and have a word without being harsh about it. Most people would no doubt just say "yeah, i'll sort it" or give a reason why it hasnt been moved.

If that fails then you could just pile it all up against their front door during the night so they have a nice surprise in the morning.

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:35 pm

banjo79 , a good way to deal with tricky situations such as this is to not inflame the situation obviously....start off by knocking on the door....start with something positive and friendly....get to the nitty gritty then finish with something positive and friendly....just after lunch is best time for this when people are likely to be at their least cranky.
I do this in my business when I need to call tricky customers....usually works...and if it doesnt you could just drop diesel 20 quid to pay them a visit as a disgruntled van driver trying to deliver to your address.

banjo79 · Post by **banjo79** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:45 pm

happyclaret17 wrote:banjo79 , a good way to deal with tricky situations such as this is to not inflame the situation obviously....start off by knocking on the door....start with something positive and friendly....get to the nitty gritty then finish with something positive and friendly....just after lunch is best time for this when people are likely to be at their least cranky.
I do this in my business when I need to call tricky customers....usually works...and if it doesnt you could just drop diesel 20 quid to pay them a visit as a disgruntled van driver trying to deliver to your address.

that's good advice (first bit). finding a couple of positive comments might be tricky...

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:51 pm

yep...not easy when you are completely blameless and you are feeling agrieved....give it some thought though....its the opening part that counts the most....if its friendly then they are likely to be none confrontational when you query their crap...good luck.

claret59 · Post by **claret59** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:36 am

Don't put too much confidence in the Deeds because no matter what they may state there are no cost free means of enforcing them. It is a purely civil matter and no-one will act on your behalf without a hefty fee and incurring ludicrous legal charges, often for an unsuccessful outcome. This situation does not warrant it.

Jeremy_Bentham · Post by **Jeremy_Bentham** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:45 am

. suggests calling the Council and asking that they just send banjo79's neighbour an EVA (Environmental Visual Audit) letter. He knows that the letter just states that the Council have been passed the property and noticed the mess and see it as a potential health hazard - the letter is non-threatening and actually offers to assist by sending a wagon to collect the stuff for a small fee. He thinks this should be enough to shame the neighbours into either removing it themselves or actually making use of the Council service.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:56 am

*Knock Knock

Neighbour: Yeah whats up?

Banjo: My lord, you have a smashing moustache Alan, have you been growing it specifically? It makes you look like a man of the world! It would be great if you had any tips? Do you condition it? Anyway it looks wonderful.

Neighbour: right...

Banjo: Anyway, all this shite you've put in the alleyway, are you taking the ****? i cant even get past without needing a tetanus jab for all the rusty nails. Get it sorted.

Neighbour: You what?!

Banjo: Them trousers are a good fit. Seeya!

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