Koeman sacked

[Tall Paul]

Christ, has anyone else seen the odds for Dyche going to Everton?

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/fo ... nt-manager" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(2/1 favourite at the time of posting)

So it's more likely that he doesn't go to Everton in the bookies' opinions.

[Wile E Coyote]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05krwc1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Wile E Coyote]

love the way these idiots just focus on everton and disregard us as if we were insignificant !!!!

[Sidney1st]

lol,,,if ever a statement by krbfc identified him as the turkey that votes for xmas,,,this is it


out of curiosity krbfc have you ever done any of the following :-

Driving drunk
Jumping into the water without knowing how deep it is
Not wearing a safety belt
Dangerously driving any kind of vehicle, like speeding and so on
Engaging in a physical fight (if you aren’t really protecting yourself)
Sleeping with your brothers girlfriend or your best friend’s wife
Having unprotected sex with straangers
Cheating on taxes or breaking the law in any other kind of way
Taking on a huge debt just to enjoy a lavish lifestyle
Travelling to a country with dangerous diseases or war zones
Marrying too soon
Exposing yourself in an investment you don’t understand
Quitting your job without having a strategy of what you will do next
Getting into business with people you don’t know

Uh oh, I can say yes to the majority of those...
Mind you so can a lot of my mates

[claretblue]

Ronald Koeman sacked despite the club’s major shareholder Farhad Moshiri saying just three weeks ago that the Dutch coach had his “total support”

total support!

[ClaretEngineer]

lol,,,if ever a statement by krbfc identified him as the turkey that votes for xmas,,,this is it


out of curiosity krbfc have you ever done any of the following :-

Driving drunk
Jumping into the water without knowing how deep it is
Not wearing a safety belt
Dangerously driving any kind of vehicle, like speeding and so on
Engaging in a physical fight (if you aren’t really protecting yourself)
Sleeping with your brothers girlfriend or your best friend’s wife
Having unprotected sex with straangers
Cheating on taxes or breaking the law in any other kind of way
Taking on a huge debt just to enjoy a lavish lifestyle
Travelling to a country with dangerous diseases or war zones
Marrying too soon
Exposing yourself in an investment you don’t understand
Quitting your job without having a strategy of what you will do next
Getting into business with people you don’t know

Most of the sex ones.
Few of the driving ones
Fighting
None of the financial,

[bfcjg]

I clicked on the favourite link and it shows his odds drifting (blue ) I am not a betting man so how significant is it ? Someone once said on here £50 on a person can massively alter the odds, perhaps there is some insider knowledge ?

[CnBtruntru]

Allardyce can’t take a club job until 2019 otherwise he’ll owe Palace £2m in compo

Maybe true, however Everton would surely pay the compensation if it meant them staying in the league, my view is SD is going nowhere, he has nearly total control and he won't get that at most other clubs.

[Tall Paul]

I clicked on the favourite link and it shows his odds drifting (blue ) I am not a betting man so how significant is it ? Someone once said on here £50 on a person can massively alter the odds, perhaps there is some insider knowledge ?

Blue means the odds are shortening.

The manager markets don't usually have much liquidity so it doesn't take much money to shift the odds.

[hampsteadclaret]

Ex-player Phil Neville's name is now in the frame.

Good...sign him on.

[IAmAClaret]

Supposedly, Bill Kenwright and a 'significant number of players' want David Unsworth.

If they beat Chelsea and Leicester (far from impossible), they almost certainly will give it him.

[claretspice]

I'd be surprised if, on the back of the Leicester experience with Shakespeare, Unsworth did get the job. If he did, I'd imagine it will initially be until the end of the season and he'd have to do pretty remarkably to be given an extension. There's plenty of examples of coaches being promoted to manager at the same club and starting well and then fading as the transition from coach to manager in terms of player relations bites.

And actually, the best possible scenario for Burnley might be that Unsworth gets the job, does enough to get Everton comfortable without pulling up trees, but Everton recruit for a permanent manager as soon as the season is over next May (if not before) having given Dyche the nudge that he's a serious candidate. It allows Burnley to plan, deals with something that is going to come at some point but never at an ideal time as painlessly as possible. And in gives Dyche every reason to focus on keeping Burnley upwardly mobile in the meantime.

[Cheshireclaret]

I'd be surprised if, on the back of the Leicester experience with Shakespeare, Unsworth did get the job. If he did, I'd imagine it will initially be until the end of the season and he'd have to do pretty remarkably to be given an extension. There's plenty of examples of coaches being promoted to manager at the same club and starting well and then fading as the transition from coach to manager in terms of player relations bites.

And actually, the best possible scenario for Burnley might be that Unsworth gets the job, does enough to get Everton comfortable without pulling up trees, but Everton recruit for a permanent manager as soon as the season is over next May (if not before) having given Dyche the nudge that he's a serious candidate. It allows Burnley to plan, deals with something that is going to come at some point but never at an ideal time as painlessly as possible. And in gives Dyche every reason to focus on keeping Burnley upwardly mobile in the meantime.

As sensible as this theory is, unfortunately Everton aren't interested in doing what's best for Burnley, they're interested in doing what's best for Everton. If they appoint Rhino until the end of the season, it doesn't say much about their support for him and I still think they have ideas above finishing 'comofortable' in The Premier League. A little like when Benitez was appointed as interim manager at Cheslki, he's on a hiding to nothing. I do like your idea however, I just think practically speaking it wouldn't happen.

[bfcjg]

Blue means the odds are shortening.

The manager markets don't usually have much liquidity so it doesn't take much money to shift the odds.

I did say I know nothing about betting

[claretspice]

They definitely won't do it for Burnley's benefit - don't get me wrong, that's not the point.

Everton will do it if it is what's best for Everton, and that might be my scenario. There's always likely to be a bigger pool of managers available in the summer, and even if their preferred long term option is potentially available now, a summer recruitment process and transition is always potentially easier. That's why Everton might be attracted to the quick and simple option of maintaining continuity by giving Unsworth the job until the end of the season. I'm sure Unsworth would want longer, but to your point, Everton will do what is best for Everton - and whilst he might get it permanently if he really pulls up trees, my guess is Everton's working assumption would be they'd go for a more proven CV at that point.

Basically, given that it appears Dyche will probably be gone in 12-18 months (he's clearly getting itchy feet, understandably), the best scenario for Burnley is having got us comfortably safe, Dyche has something lined up on or before the end of the season and Burnley are able to start planning early for his successor. It avoids disrupting either a transfer window or season. The option of Everton making an interim appointment is probably the most plausible way I can think of that this happens.

[Sidney1st]

Could we have proof that he's clearly getting itchy feet?
He doesn't make any noises about wanting to leave or even being interested.

Or is it a body language thing again?

[claretspice]

Perhaps its not "clear", but there's certainly plenty of circumstantial evidence. He's definitely not shutting down speculation when it comes, lets put it that way - his Guardian and Telegraph interviews last weekend were pretty frank that he's open to leaving should the right option come up. And the speed with which his name is being thrown in the hat for all these jobs, particularly when his odds then drift as more information comes out of the recruiting club, leaves me to suspect that at least some of the speculation is being generated by Dyche's team. Which is fine, its par for the course, but lets not be naïve about it

[IndigoLake]

Hilarious seeing some of the reactions from Everton fans to Dyche being linked. Most of their comments aren't based on anything remotely to do with football. In fact, they're simply justifying much of what Dyche has said in the past about foreign managers being the fashionable thing. Change Sean Dyche's name to Sergio Dichio and they'd be all over him. As it is, he's English, ginger and has a gravelly voice so he can't possibly be right for them. Most football fans really are clueless.

[claretblue]

Koeman 1st statement following his dismissal:

'...I looked at it (fixture list) and saw that five of our first nine games would be against clubs from last season’s top six: Chelsea, Tottenham, Man City, Man United and Arsenal.

“I looked at it again and I said to myself, 'Phew!...'

much tougher than Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool, Everton + Man City....all away!