Everton move for Dyche

[Tall Paul]

I've just been told that Everton are going to offer SD a three and a half year contract in the next few days.

[Rick_Muller]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... e-11467966

Regurgitated old news I’m afraid.

[Rick_Muller]

I've just been told that Everton are going to offer SD a three and a half year contract in the next few days.

It’s worth jack sh!t if he’s sack after 10 games

[JohnDearyMe]

I've just been told that Everton are going to offer SD a three and a half year contract in the next few days.

Big few days for our board; can they convince Dyche to stay? If not, can they bring in a good quality replacement?

[NL Claret]

I've just been told that Everton are going to offer SD a three and a half year contract in the next few days.

Were you told if he would be interviewed before being offered the job?

[Tall Paul]

Were you told if he would be interviewed before being offered the job?

No, but I've already been told (and posted on here) that they've already spoken to his representatives who have indicated that he wants it.

[Sidney1st]

So does that mean they’ve already approached Burnley for permission to speak to Dyche?

[Tall Paul]

So does that mean they’ve already approached Burnley for permission to speak to Dyche?

I don't know. It seems common knowledge that there's a set fee of £2.5m for compensation, so I'd imagine it'd just be a simple case of them telling Burnley that they're willing to pay it.

[harpers_perm]

All this confusion, a solution would be for Dyche to manage both clubs at the same time.

He could manage us Monday to Wednesday and big massive huge ‘not really done much in reality’ Everton on a Thursday, Friday and Sunday.

We could share Saturdays and when playing each other he could spend half a game in each dugout.

[Sidney1st]

I don't know. It seems common knowledge that there's a set fee of £2.5m for compensation, so I'd imagine it'd just be a simple case of them telling Burnley that they're willing to pay it.

To agree a contract it would require them to talk to Burnley first.

Is the £2.5 million an automatic release clause, or a compensation clause?
I think we got more for Howe...

[Tall Paul]

To agree a contract it would require them to talk to Burnley first.

Is the £2.5 million an automatic release clause, or a compensation clause?
I think we got more for Howe...

I didn't say a contract had been agreed, just that Everton are ready to offer one. In real life, they'll have discussed it with his agent and it'll just be a case of agreeing the compensation with Burnley and SD signing it - unless he's changed his mind over the weekend.

[Pstotto]

Guardian quote in today's webpages: 'There's not a story there. My story is the Burnley story. Five years here, another fantastic win, a clean sheet. We've won 1-0, that's the story.'

End of.

In Dyche we trust.

[NL Claret]

So no interview taken place then. Would you offer someone a job without interview? No.

This doesn't add up or make any sense. Hi Sean, thanks for joining Everton football club. Ok then, what's the plan to get us out of this mess? What do you think of Rooney, a pi ss can? Can you do anything for him?

BFS has been interviewed.

[Devils_Advocate]

So no interview taken place then. Would you offer someone a job without interview? No.

I bet Burnley offers contracts to lots of football players without interviewing them and I bet my life Dyche didnt interview Ian Woan before offering him a job as his assistant manager at Burnley

[Sidney1st]

Difference is Dyche knows Woan and scouts the players.

But different to taking over a managers job.

[NL Claret]

So no interview required for the manager job at a football club who are in dire straits? Really? Might they want to ask him how he plans to get them of out trouble? Who he would want to sign in January? Or did his agents let them know that?

[ablueclaret]

Duff as caretaker.

[Devils_Advocate]

Difference is Dyche knows Woan and scouts the players.

But different to taking over a managers job.

I agree and thats the point i was sort of highlighting that football is very different to normal life and employment full stop. I would guess most clubs will interview for managers but especially at the highest level where a lot is already known about the avaialble managers then when a club targets a specific manager they want they will probably hold some talks but will not interview

Not saying this is the case with Dyche but i thought the general premise of the point asking "would you offer someome a job without interview" was not a great one in the context of professional football as i showed with two simple examples

[FactualFrank]

Is the thread title correct yet?

[mickleoverclaret]

It’s worth jack sh!t if he’s sack after 10 games

Worth a fat payoff to Dyche.

[Blackrod]

Duff as caretaker.

Loads of managerial experience so what a great idea

[Claretforever]

They stated on the football show just before kick off yesterday that Burnley have not had an official approach from Everton.

[bartons baggage]

Aren't Panorama doing a 2 part program about the Everton owners moody dealings?
This could make Dyche's decision for him.

[3putt]

I've just been reliably informed that there's an awful lot BS spouted on this MB from people who like to appear that they are in the know. (Source HP).

[claretspice]

If what Tall Paul says is right - and I've no reason to disbelieve him, he's one of those posters who seems pretty straight - then I'd guess any haggle would be more about which backroom staff Dyche gets to take with him, and when. We know there's a release clause on Dyche's head - reported at 2.5 million - but I'd be surprised if that extended to Woan and Loughlan too. I'd imagine Dyche would want to take those 2 with him on day one, rather than going to Everton alone. Burnley can't stop them going, but we can potentially delay their departure depending on what their contracts state their notice period is.

If Dyche wanted anyone else - BIlly Mercer, say - then I'd guess Burnley would play real hardball.

[Sidney1st]

If what Tall Paul says is right - and I've no reason to disbelieve him, he's one of those posters who seems pretty straight - then I'd guess any haggle would be more about which backroom staff Dyche gets to take with him, and when. We know there's a release clause on Dyche's head - reported at 2.5 million - but I'd be surprised if that extended to Woan and Loughlan too. I'd imagine Dyche would want to take those 2 with him on day one, rather than going to Everton alone. Burnley can't stop them going, but we can potentially delay their departure depending on what their contracts state their notice period is.

If Dyche wanted anyone else - BIlly Mercer, say - then I'd guess Burnley would play real hardball.

Gardening leave the lot of them if needs be.

[FactualFrank]

Just put £100 on him to be the next Everton manager. It's only £225 return, but it'll pay for enough beers to ease the pain.

[NL Claret]

I wonder if everton would want to know who he intends to bring with him before appointing him? Or do they already know?

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

Tall Paul can’t be the only one to be told that news if it is correct. If it was fairly well known I’d have thought that the bookies would have got wind of it and you certainly wouldn’t be able to get 6/4 on Dyche going. Bfs is still odds on favourite.

[FactualFrank]

Tall Paul can’t be the only one to be told that news if it is correct. If it was fairly well known I’d have thought that the bookies would have got wind of it and you certainly wouldn’t be able to get 6/4 on Dyche going. Bfs is still odds on favourite.

I was thinking the same, but placed a bit of a hedge bet anyway.

[joey13]

To agree a contract it would require them to talk to Burnley first.

Is the £2.5 million an automatic release clause, or a compensation clause?
I think we got more for Howe...

Try thinking outside the bubble Sidney

[dermotdermot]

Duff as caretaker.

Is that what he does nowadays?

[FactualFrank]

If he does leave for Everton, would you want Everton to be relegated, or stay up?

[Sidney1st]

Try thinking outside the bubble Sidney

I am.

To speak to someone under contract requires permission.
That includes agreeing a contract.

You need your bubble bursting.

[Sidney1st]

If he does leave for Everton, would you want Everton to be relegated, or stay up?

I wouldn’t give a toss either way.

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

If he does leave for Everton, would you want Everton to be relegated, or stay up?

I feel a bit of a git for saying this but relegated, I’d want him to realise what he has thrown away by leaving us.

[Tall Paul]

It's not a done deal yet, SD could still turn them down or BFS compromise his demands. I trust this source's info on Everton though, he's never been wrong so far.

[Tall Paul]

I am.

To speak to someone under contract requires permission.
That includes agreeing a contract.

You need your bubble bursting.

They don't need permission to talk to his agent.

[Sidney1st]

They don't need permission to talk to his agent.

No, they don’t, but if a contract is agreed then the club can accuse Everton of tapping up Dyche etc.
We could put him on gardening leave if needs be.

[Tall Paul]

It could be agreed in principle without any tapping up.

[claretspice]

Sydney - I'd suggest that if Burnley might themselves be interested in a manager who has a job currently to replace Dyche (and I'd be astonished if one or two in the Championship weren't on our shortlist), then I doubt Burnley will be immediately starting a campaign to change the way the football industry works, and has worked for years. Even if, strictly, you might be right that it is borderline tapping up.

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

They don't need permission to talk to his agent.

An agent speaks on behalf of a player so they would need permission in theory, I appreciate that it happens all the time though.

[NL Claret]

Spice - do you think Burnley will interview candidates or just offer a 3.5 year deal to whoever they want?

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

If he does leave for Everton, would you want Everton to be relegated, or stay up?

Relegated.

And SD sacked before the end of the season.

[gandhisflipflop]

I may have got this wrong but as I see it allardyce wants a 3.5 year deal, Everton only want to give him 1.5 yet are about to offer Dyche 3.5? That makes sense. Either way it's mentally draining now all of this and boring. I just wish Everton would get the **** on with things.

[NL Claret]

Flick through an Everton forum and they sound none the wiser as to who will be their new manager.

Flick through a Burnley forum and there's someone who knows someone who's never wrong about Everton that Dyche will be offered a 3.5 year deal.

You'd think it would be the other way round.

[Lancasterclaret]

What screams at me from this thread is that the argument that Everton are a much bigger club that us still isn't getting through.

Oh, and that people are a bit naive still about the whole football thing and how it all works.

[BleedingClaret]

What screams at me from this thread is that the argument that Everton are a much bigger club that us still isn't getting through.

Oh, and that people are a bit naive still about the whole football thing and how it all works.

Well Mr Dyche didn’t bow to their insurmountable massiveness at Monolithic Goodison a few weeks ago.
Glad you & Sydney weren’t in charge
Those screams you’re hearing are they Girly giving in ones?

[Sidney1st]

Well Mr Dyche didn’t bow to their insurmountable massiveness at Monolithic Goodison a few weeks ago.
Glad you & Sydney weren’t in charge
Those screams you’re hearing are they Girly giving in ones?

Point one of Lancaster’s post proven right here.

[claretspice]

Spice - do you think Burnley will interview candidates or just offer a 3.5 year deal to whoever they want?

I imagine Burnley will interview candidates, but I'm not naïve enough to think that Everton haven't done likewise, or that these things necessarily happen only after an formal approach has been made.