Everton move for Dyche

Clockwork Claret · Post by **Clockwork Claret** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:08 pm

starting_11 wrote:The fact SD not ruled out Everton will be because he's not stupid and is clearly angling for more money for himself and for the transfer budget in January.

He's going to use this interest to get what he wants, he's hardly going to come out and say he's happy to stay until he's got it.

As Sam said on MOTD 'he's got the board where he wants them'

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:12 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Talking to an agent is apparently the same thing as an interview according to you, when actually it isnt.

For Dyche to pitch himself for the job would require a full blown interview and we all know it would be leaked out that it’s happened.

I'd expect to see a copy of the power point presentation as evidence....

I'm sure someone can put one together and post on here for us all to see.

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PS: Sean Dyche will still be Burnley's manager at the end of this season - and, who knows, maybe for "5 more years."

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:15 pm

Joe has a finger on the pulse...

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FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:20 pm

I kept quiet when Barton was here (about him), but come on - he loves the limelight. He'll say and do anything to get himself noticed. That tweet is simply copying what's already out there on social media.

It strongly looks to me like he knows absolutely naff all and is just going off what is in his tweet - a rumour. I bet he's texted SD to get more of an insight, prior to placing his bet. He did a job for us, but he'll always be a bellend.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:23 pm

I guarantee that Joey Barton knows a lot more than we do.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:26 pm

starting_11 wrote:The fact SD not ruled out Everton will be because he's not stupid and is clearly angling for more money for himself and for the transfer budget in January.

He's going to use this interest to get what he wants, he's hardly going to come out and say he's happy to stay until he's got it.

Based on Mike Garlick's interview earlier in the week, the board are already planning on "5 more years" with Sean Dyche our manager - and the £100s of millions that Sean Dyche has brought to Burnley with 3 Premier League seasons will be factored into both continuing to build the club and reward Sean Dyche. That's how it is, that's how it should be.

No need for Sean to "prove" that he could get a better job elsewhere - he's already got the best job in Premier League football.

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PS: I expect Sean Dyche to continue to say: "I'm flattered, but I've nothing to say, it's your story, not mine."

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:28 pm

Paul Waine wrote:I'd expect to see a copy of the power point presentation as evidence....

I'm sure someone can put one together and post on here for us all to see.

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PS: Sean Dyche will still be Burnley's manager at the end of this season - and, who knows, maybe for "5 more years."

I wonder if his agent delivered the presentation, apparently that's what happens these days.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:31 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:I guarantee that Joey Barton knows a lot more than we do.

I bet he doesn't. Actually, hold on...

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:36 pm

NL Claret wrote:I wonder if his agent delivered the presentation, apparently that's what happens these days.

I can't see that being the same presentation. How's the agent going to answer the question "what players do you need?" or "how will you get the best out of Wayne/Gyfil/Ross?" or "How is it Michael Keane played so well for Burnley, but.....?"

The only questions agents are good for is "how much money/what terms?"

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:38 pm

The idea that Big Sam would take it just till the end of the season doesn't stack up. He'd want longer than that.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:39 pm

He didn't at Palace.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:40 pm

ontario claret wrote:He didn't at Palace.

What contract did he sign with them?

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:47 pm

What, he did it for free?

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:48 pm

Must have been the greatest bargain of all time for Palace.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:50 pm

Let us all know when you've stopped talking to yourself

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:51 pm

This is my take on it, I don't have a mate who is ITK on all things Everton.

They want an interim manager for the rest of the season and were hoping Unsworth would fit the bill. He hasn't so they interviewed BFS to come in short term to kick start their season. Don't know if that's on BFS agenda or how much he would want to do it. It will give them 6-7 months to sound out a bigger name manager like Fonseca to come in on a 3 year deal in the summer. I would imagine that Dyche's representative has been touting him around hence the media interest. Dyche would not be a popular appointment with the fans and the last time he was in a relegation battle in PL he took us down. Does he have the credentials to currently manage Everton?

It is the right job move for him in terms of club size however it is not the right time for both parties.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:58 pm

kaptin1 wrote:Being reported on Sky Sports that Everton will move for Dyche in next 24 hours.

144 hours and counting.

I wonder if Everton's clock has stopped.

mickleoverclaret · Post by **mickleoverclaret** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:58 pm

"the last time he was in a relegation battle in PL he took us down."

Did we not stay up last year or did I imagine it?

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:05 pm

Was that a relegation battle? It was relatively comfortable I thought. 2014/15 different story although we didn't really have the depth in the squad that maybe Everton do. Still don't think he's the man for the Everton.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:10 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:144 hours and counting.

I wonder if Everton's clock has stopped.

Their back four are trying to turn it back, as we write!

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:12 pm

This is my take on it. I put a tenner on Dyche being the next Everton manager. That means he’s staying!

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:49 pm

Go on then, I may as well throw my thoughts in.

I have heard nothing concrete from any of my friends who are usually in the know. Seems like SD is desperate for it and they are not. He is not a sassy appointment for their fans. If they have big Russians involved with the financing, then they won't want him either.

If he does get it, it will be the most blatant case of his agent and the papers getting him the job along with the lack of other obvious targets.

Really can't see how they would choose SD over BFS. Just wouldn't make sense.

I hope I'm right, but who knows.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:51 pm

Are we still on about this?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:48 pm

Latest from Alan Nixon. Intriguing.

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:39 am

Sadly it seems that Dyche is pushing for the job though. In the Sunday Times match report he is quoted as saying, 'five years ago no one wanted me here. I wasn't the peoples champion'.

Why say that again, is he speaking out to the Everton fans who don't want him or just reminding the Burnley fans that loyalty works both ways, and if they had their way he would have been out of a job or not offered the job.

Either way that is a gross exaggeration and unfair to the vast majority of Burnley fans, but a good soundbite when you are trying to sell yourself in the media.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:45 am

Almost feels like some fans are trying to demonise Dyche, in preparation for him going.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:49 am

I don't know whether SD is pushing for the job or not, neither dies anyone else on this board. It's time to give it a rest, que sera sera

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:55 am

northeastclaret wrote:Sadly it seems that Dyche is pushing for the job though. In the Sunday Times match report he is quoted as saying, 'five years ago no one wanted me here. I wasn't the peoples champion'.

Why say that again, is he speaking out to the Everton fans who don't want him or just reminding the Burnley fans that loyalty works both ways, and if they had their way he would have been out of a job or not offered the job.

Either way that is a gross exaggeration and unfair to the vast majority of Burnley fans, but a good soundbite when you are trying to sell yourself in the media.

He says that every other week though to be fair.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:57 am

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Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:01 am

Good news

More importantly, if he isn't even considered for the Everton (or West Ham) jobs then he's probably going to be here for a while yet.

Ambrose · Post by **Ambrose** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:00 am

Pearcey wrote:This is my take on it. I put a tenner on Dyche being the next Everton manager. That means he’s staying!

I do that with the result every match.

In our promotion season, I lost £230 in the second half of the season. Worth every penny. I lost my money last Saturday too.

mickleoverclaret · Post by **mickleoverclaret** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:16 am

Dyche drifting a little bit with the bookies while Allardyche is 1/2 with a few now.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:32 am

Rick_Muller wrote:Latest from Liverpool Echo...

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Dominic King would appear to have good contacts within Everton

Was on Sunday Supplement yesterday when he was fairly sure it was going to be Dyche getting the job so why the change of mind less than 24 hours later - lets hope he has heard more to change his mind

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:40 am

If Allardyce will take Shakespeare as his assistant, that's one of the barriers to him getting the job gone. I don't think Everton wanted to employ Sammy Lee.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:40 am

His best chance of a big club job (attendance and money) but his methods probably frighten the top sides even though he could be very successful over time.
His lack of experience with overseas players is a huge stumbling block.
I'm sure he'd love to try his hand with top players but he's going to have to make do with getting the best out of the talent he has here, talent which wants to improve hence its success.

iluva64 · Post by **iluva64** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:47 am

My money would be on Dyche going to Arsenal at the end of the season when Wenger takes a back seat but would still be able to give advice as well as a nurturing role.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:51 am

More good news on the betting front. Sean Dyche is no longer favourite for Goodison. It's BFS all the way now

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:06 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:More good news on the betting front. Sean Dyche is no longer favourite for Goodison. It's BFS all the way now

Me putting £100 on Dyche last night may be a bit down to it. The odds changed about an hour later.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:12 pm

Surely if you bet on Dyche his odds would shorten, not lengthen.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:59 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:Surely if you bet on Dyche his odds would shorten, not lengthen.

You would think so. I got odds of 5/4 and they're now 13/8.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:16 pm

Obviously nobody will believe me, but the latest from Goodison is that no decision has been made. Something has obviously changed between yesterday and this morning, hopefully that SD has decided to stay, or it could be that BFS is prepared to lower his demands.

Looks like it could run for another few days yet.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:31 pm

northeastclaret wrote:Sadly it seems that Dyche is pushing for the job though. In the Sunday Times match report he is quoted as saying, 'five years ago no one wanted me here. I wasn't the peoples champion'.

Why say that again, is he speaking out to the Everton fans who don't want him or just reminding the Burnley fans that loyalty works both ways, and if they had their way he would have been out of a job or not offered the job.

Either way that is a gross exaggeration and unfair to the vast majority of Burnley fans, but a good soundbite when you are trying to sell yourself in the media.

They've just taken that out of the 5 year interview he did for clarets player.
Lots of old Dyche quotes are surfacing again,journo's are just recycling old news trying to make it sound recent.

Espia · Post by **Espia** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:33 pm

Do the Everton board have shares with some of the major betting companies ...... collusion perhaps to let the story run and run ....

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:39 pm

Espia wrote:Do the Everton board have shares with some of the major betting companies ...... collusion perhaps to let the story run and run ....

I doubt the bookies or their shareholders are interested in manipulating a tiny betting market.

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:58 pm

Betfair update. Only £7k staked today, nearly £5k of it on BFS

He is now slight odds on, SD is 3.7/1

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:59 pm

Other than Howe whose circumstances were somewhat unusual, who was the last Burnley manager who significantly enhanced their reputation after leaving us? I have gone back to WW2 and am struggling to come up with a name, with the possible exception of Alan Brown. SD be warned!

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:03 pm

Alan Brown went to Sunderland and they were relegated for the first time in their history.
And Cliff Britton left us for Everton and then was relegated although only for a season

DuckworthsEA · Post by **DuckworthsEA** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:57 pm

NL Claret wrote:Was that a relegation battle? It was relatively comfortable I thought. 2014/15 different story although we didn't really have the depth in the squad that maybe Everton do. Still don't think he's the man for the Everton.

Last season was a relegation battle end of. I don't think Everton will be thinking Dyche can't keep a side up when that's exactly what he did last season.

Clarinetclaret · Post by **Clarinetclaret** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:10 pm

DuckworthsEA wrote:Last season was a relegation battle end of. I don't think Everton will be thinking Dyche can't keep a side up when that's exactly what he did last season.

Was it? It was expected to be a relegation battle but didn't turn out that way.

Kevwando · Post by **Kevwando** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:20 pm

Sky sources: Sam Allardyce has held talks with Everton majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri about vacant manager position.