Hannover hooligans at it again

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm

From Saturday's game:

Hooligans beat themselves in the Oststadt and the Schützenplatz

Two battles between Hannover 96-Hooligans and Eintracht Frankfurt supporters had to dissolve the police on Saturday. In the Oststadt about 80 rioters met at noon, after a few minutes the brawl broke up again. At the Schützenplatz and in Ohestrasse the police seized another 70 ultras.

At noon, the two Hooligan groups met at Rambergstraße shortly after 2 pm and started a fight. The Frankfurt-Ultras came from the direction of Hauptbahnhof, the 96-Hooligans had waited in a pub in the Oststadt. The police assume that the dispute was planned.

On both sides were about 40 hooligans, who had muffled themselves with hoods and scarves. After just a few minutes, the police arrived and the fans scattered. There are no injuries in the past, the police said on Saturday. Seven supporters of both clubs were able to arrest the police in a nearby pub, after the personal details were released. The remaining hooligans are currently volatile.

In order to clarify the disaster of the country, the police are asking the police to contact the West police department under telephone number (0511) 109-3920.

Second fight at the shooting range

The Hanover Police also inspected 70 Hanover 96 supporters, who apparently wanted to attack Eintracht fans' march - 40 of them, the officials on the Schützenplatz, 30 at the Ohestraße. On the Waterloostraße there was a fight between the 96-hooligans.

http://www.haz.de/Hannover/Aus-der-Stad ... r-Oststadt

Any news on how the Polizei are getting on with the charges from the game at the Turf by the way?

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:50 pm

That translation's hilarious!

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:51 pm

"Seven supporters of both clubs were able to arrest the police in a nearby pub, after the personal details were released. The remaining hooligans are currently volatile."

No wonder our police can't do anything if the Hanover fans are arresting the police in Germany ....

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:54 pm

Hilarious thread.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:57 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote: Any news on how the Polizei are getting on with the charges from the game at the Turf by the way?

Did you not see the update in the local press and other media outlets?

The uncollected, refundable ticket money, from the abandoned Burnley v Hannover96 game was split between some local charities.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:00 pm

German Grammar 1-0 Google Translate.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:05 pm

Seven supporters of both clubs were able to arrest the police in a nearby pub, after the personal details were released.

That's impressive

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:10 pm

I don't think Google Translate will be allowed to sit German O'level just yet.

It does seem that there's a resurgence of footy hooliganism in Germany though.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:12 pm

I will repost but slightly edited so it MIGHT be allowed. Nothing has or will happen. As we said at the time and shortly after. And as several people I know in Germany pointed out.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:13 pm

LeadBelly wrote:
It does seem that there's a resurgence of footy hooliganism in Germany though.

If you are gonna do it, do it reyt. Germans do everything properly. Even hooliganism

moaninclaret · Post by **moaninclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:44 pm

i wonder if they were wearing their chavvy Lonsdale sweat shirts and hoodies again? no class at all

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:49 pm

moaninclaret wrote:i wonder if they were wearing their chavvy Lonsdale sweat shirts and hoodies again? no class at all

Not sure, but one was seen with what seemed to be stone island skin...

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:29 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Germans do everything properly.

BER scandal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/ ... d-airport/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:29 pm

moaninclaret wrote:i wonder if they were wearing their chavvy Lonsdale sweat shirts and hoodies again? no class at all

Thats the Polish!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:30 pm

simonclaret wrote:BER scandal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/ ... d-airport/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

East Germans.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:20 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Thats the Polish!

And the Czechs. Used to make a packet filling a case up at Sports Direct then coming here

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:22 pm

Statement today from the police on investigation at Burnley v Hannover game

We are continuing to investigate disorder involving fans at the Burnley vs Hannover friendly match.

In August, a large disturbance took place at Turf Moor with the game abandoned at half time.

We understand a number of Burnley fans have expressed interest about the progress of our investigation and we want to reassure supporters it is very much on-going.

Detectives from Lancashire Police are in close liaison with their counterparts in Germany, as well as the Crown Prosecution Service and Burnley Football Club.

CCTV footage from the game is being reviewed to identify offenders and pro-active action will be taken against them as soon as possible.

Investigations of this nature are difficult and complex but we are determined to prosecute offenders.

Disorder will not be tolerated by Lancashire Police or Burnley Football Club and law-abiding fans should not be subjected to any mindless criminal behaviour.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Statement today from the police on investigation at Burnley v Hannover game

We are continuing to investigate disorder involving fans at the Burrnley vs Hannover friendly match.

Is this from Blackburrrrn police?

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:30 pm

It'll still be being swept under the carpet though... the experts on here say so.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:33 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Is this from Blackburrrrn police?

It's from the police force responsible for the games at the Turf which is Lancashire.

EDIT: Just seen the reason for your post now and corrected my previous post.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:34 pm

Must have a lot of CCTV if it’s taken two months already.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:36 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Must have a lot of CCTV if it’s taken two months already.

Police cuts?

I said CUTS

NickBFC · Post by **NickBFC** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:47 pm

''Seven supporters of both clubs were able to arrest the police in a nearby pub, after the personal details were released.''

I am sure they would have made quicker arrests had they visited the local donut shop first

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:14 pm

Can someone please explain the difference between proactive and reactive to Lancashire Police.

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:21 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:
the police are asking the police to contact the West police department under telephone number (0511) 109-3920.

Rings number... "zeez bladdy police are scheisse, every time I ring ze number it iz engaged"

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:56 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Must have a lot of CCTV if it’s taken two months already.

To be fair it does take a lot of time to edit it all and make it look like Burnley fans were at fault.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:04 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:To be fair it does take a lot of time to edit it all and make it look like Burnley fans were at fault.

I remember those self destructing toilet facilities in the Darwen end a few years back..

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:26 pm

Handbags

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:48 pm

Saxoman wrote:I remember those self destructing toilet facilities in the Darwen end a few years back..

Not amusing when you are busting for a slash.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:50 pm

ClaretEngineer wrote:Not amusing when you are busting for a slash.

I'd have complained to BRFC straight away. Those poor Burnley fans could have been injured by such dangerous amenities..

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:57 pm

Saxoman wrote:I'd have complained to BRFC straight away. Those poor Burnley fans could have been injured by such dangerous amenities..

I couldn’t even get in to be subject to the danger. The Police should have been inside the toilets.

Well, there shouldn’t have been any need for police in the toilets, if folk just behaves themselves.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:58 pm

ClaretEngineer wrote:I couldn’t even get in to be subject to the danger. The Police should have been inside the toilets.

Well, there shouldn’t have been any need for police in the toilets, if folk just behaves themselves.

I'm being sarcastic, you're being serious..

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:07 am

ClaretTony wrote:Statement today from the police on investigation at Burnley v Hannover game

We are continuing to investigate disorder involving fans at the Burnley vs Hannover friendly match.

In August, a large disturbance took place at Turf Moor with the game abandoned at half time.

We understand a number of Burnley fans have expressed interest about the progress of our investigation and we want to reassure supporters it is very much on-going.

Detectives from Lancashire Police are in close liaison with their counterparts in Germany, as well as the Crown Prosecution Service and Burnley Football Club.

CCTV footage from the game is being reviewed to identify offenders and pro-active action will be taken against them as soon as possible.

Investigations of this nature are difficult and complex but we are determined to prosecute offenders.

Disorder will not be tolerated by Lancashire Police or Burnley Football Club and law-abiding fans should not be subjected to any mindless criminal behaviour.

Nobody will be brought to task. Not overseas anyway thats for sure.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:29 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Nobody will be brought to task. Not overseas anyway thats for sure.

Thanks for that information - reassuring to know we have someone on the board who knows exactly what is happening.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:39 am

Was any of the Germans brought to task over their appalling behaviour on the Turf?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:08 am

ClaretTony wrote:Thanks for that information - reassuring to know we have someone on the board who knows exactly what is happening.

Any time mate

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:42 pm

So here we go. Police now seeking to identify Burnley fans in relation to the trouble caused 4 months ago by Hannover fans. So far, by their own admission and not hearsay, friend of a friend etc., they have arrested ONE German supporter, who was released without charge.

Now I have no links what so ever to info from the club, police or other organization, just many years of following our club and knowing how the police work.

http://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/crim ... -1-8848802" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

50 shades of Grey · Post by **50 shades of Grey** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:50 pm

Ha, have you seen the 4 photos in the BE, 2 of them look about 10 years old, clearly some dangerous individuals there. Well done Lancs Police, months of painstaking work on CCTV footage for this.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:09 pm

Shame we can't get the "police ask for you're videos/pictures thread" link.
Will show what many on here including myself said would happen. I think 99.9% of fans could see who caused the disorder, yet more than double the amount of Burnley fans have been arrested and charged than the German, and them figures look like increasing.

Sadly those who tried to "assist" the police have just caused their fellow Clarets a lot of problems.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:15 pm

1 link

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... lp#p485923" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:26 pm

MACCA wrote:Sadly those who tried to "assist" the police have just caused their fellow Clarets a lot of problems.

Are you suggesting that people should have sent in evidence of Hannover fans being dicks but suppressed evidence of Burnley fans being dicks? Sure, the majority of the dickish behaviour was in the away end and we would all like to see those responsible face the music but it's surely equally desirable to see Burnley fans who behaved like dicks facing the music too?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:31 pm

Bacchus wrote:Are you suggesting that people should have sent in evidence of Hannover fans being dicks but suppressed evidence of Burnley fans being dicks? Sure, the majority of the dickish behaviour was in the away end and we would all like to see those responsible face the music but it's surely equally desirable to see Burnley fans who behaved like dicks facing the music too?

No I'm suggesting that people should leave the "experts" to do THEIR job. As proved , they are not very good at it, so will get any conviction for the slightest offence that may have occurred in order to get a result ( statistic)
Sadly in this case it was always going to be the Burnley fans paying the price.

I don't condone retaliation, but once it occurred the police were always going to cover up their shortfalls, by shifting the blame.

Edit - I do wonder sometimes what some posters would do if their property, child, family got attacked or damaged.
Seems by some responses it would be.
" stand there, take it, ignore it, leave them to it, turn a blind eye, shift the blame etc. As that's their response to most things that happen to others.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:12 pm

Hannover fans turn up with gum shields and reported weapons intent on fighting yet only one arrest who is then released without charge. Very odd.

MK-Claret · Post by **MK-Claret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:37 pm

Absolutely flabbergasted that they even are asking to speak to Burnley fans.. Poor policing poor organisation and blame the victims not the aggressor. Anyone at the game or beforehand knows where the blame lies.. Allowing drunken fans to carry alcohol through the streets cause damage to public houses and attack police stewards and fans at the game.. Yep blame the Burnley fans FFS you couldn't make it up. Disgusting..

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:40 pm

If any Burnley fans haven't done anything wrong then they have nothing to worry about.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:42 pm

MACCA wrote:Shame we can't get the "police ask for you're videos/pictures thread" link.
Will show what many on here including myself said would happen. I think 99.9% of fans could see who caused the disorder, yet more than double the amount of Burnley fans have been arrested and charged than the German, and them figures look like increasing.

Sadly those who tried to "assist" the police have just caused their fellow Clarets a lot of problems.

I presume the people who tried to “assist” the police don’t identify Burnley hooligans as being fellow Clarets. I know I don’t.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:54 pm

Hard not to be a little bit cynical about this. I disagree with most of MACCA's posts but he called this right, weeks ago.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:00 pm

claretdj wrote:If any Burnley fans haven't done anything wrong then they have nothing to worry about.

True but then there most be enough CCTV footage etc to identify the obvious amount of Hannover fans causing disorder.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:01 pm

What a surprise. As predicted, Lancashire police looking for those nasty Burnley fans who clearly instigated the problem by daring to sit in the home end, meanwhile the actual trouble makers get away scott free.

Well done Lancashire police. Another sterling job.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:01 pm

I find it stunning that with today's modern IT we cant get a better picture of people than what they have shared, asking for us to identify them is like trying to find a penis on a clip of Japanese porn (or comedy for that matter

)