Nahki Wells - The Right Attitude

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:31 am

Good thread, we know we won't be signing anyone without the right attitude, that was made clear when we backed out of the Grosicki deal! Perhaps the fact he had to nip to Ladbrokes before his signing gave it away, who knows.

A players worth is always going to be a combination of mentality and ability, that's why the top players in the game are who they are. There's a bunch of players who match their mentality and a bunch that match their ability but very few interested to sign for Burnley that match both.

As we place a higher priority than most clubs do on mentality of course we are going to be very limited by ability..or at least current ability. We've seen how much we as a club improve players.

So potential signings may seem uninspiring but so we're the signings of Scott Arfield and Dean Marney and those are two players who vastly improved with us and contributed largely to get us where we are today.

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:38 am

Newty wrote:You'd think he was on life support if you read some comments.

Edit:- Or a double leg amputee.

Just had a belly laugh at this one.

cricketfield73 · Post by **cricketfield73** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:17 pm

Just logged in. which is increasingly rare these days, to add a 'like' to the OP.
The absolute polar opposite of many of the 'contributions' on the other thread. Measured, considered, offering insight and opinion and with the kind of positivity that one would expect to see on display on here given the fabulous state our club is in presently.
Well said that man.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:20 pm

Do we pronounce it Nacky or Narky, as that's what most of the trolls have been today?

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:07 pm

Nick Nack Paddy Waddy
Give the lad the ball

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:24 am

Newty wrote:Oh sorry, he's precisely 25 days (3 shy of 4 weeks) into a 3-6 week recovery time.

The article you linked says he has?

Or in less than 3 weeks max, according to the article you linked.

3 months on, and we're still yet to see Wells play even a second for us.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:29 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:3 months on, and we're still yet to see Wells play even a second for us.

Did you write the HITC article...? http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... =2&t=23159" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hapag Lloyd · Post by **Hapag Lloyd** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:14 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:3 months on, and we're still yet to see Wells play even a second for us.

Similar situation to Pope and Tarks then, they haven't worked out too bad.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:22 pm

Hapag Lloyd wrote:Similar situation to Pope and Tarks then, they haven't worked out too bad.

Don't allow reality to get in the way of the perpetual whinge brigade

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:40 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:3 months on, and we're still yet to see Wells play even a second for us.

Is it keeping you awake at night ?

I'd like to see him on the bench and get a few minutes but it's not like we are having a bad season is it ?

Are you having similar palpitations about Charlie Taylor ? He doesn't even make the bench these days.

What about Walters ? He will be on double the money Wells is on and that's not exactly worked out has it ?

If I were you I would not worry about the lads not playing - just enjoy the ones that are.

Even if Wells never kicks a ball for us and his injury is a lot worse than anyone ever realised and he has to finish his career is that really going to bother you or does it make the manager and Board incompetent all of a sudden ? As Forest Gump once said "sh-it happens" !!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:41 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:3 months on, and we're still yet to see Wells play even a second for us.

Been in the match day squad twice, played numerous U23 games, now fully fit and available. I would think he might have been pushed in by now had we not been playing so well.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:44 pm

Very good post, I wonder if we ever see him play once Walters is fully fit.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:48 pm

£5m for someone who's not fit enough, good enough, or even suits our system.

Played a blinder.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:05 pm

There we go - "not good enough". Why did you not just say that in the first place ?

You seen a lot of him then ?

You want Dyche out then ?

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:06 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:£5m for someone who's not fit enough, good enough, or even suits our system.

Played a blinder.

Why do you skip the pages and write your own ending inside the back cover?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:07 pm

TVC15 wrote:There we go - "not good enough". Why did you not just say that in the first place ?

You seen a lot of him then ?

You want Dyche out then ?

I was just one of many people calling this signing for what it was, all the way back in August.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:10 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I was just one of many people calling this signing for what it was, all the way back in August.

Aye - your amazingly insightful aren't you

What about all the other players we have paid money for that can't get in the team ? How are you with those ?

Who should have we bought for £5m ? Harry Kane ?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:16 pm

TVC15 wrote:Aye - your amazingly insightful aren't you

What about all the other players we have paid money for that can't get in the team ? How are you with those ?

Who should have we bought for £5m ? Harry Kane ?

There were quite a few people saying things along the lines of 'if Wells is the only player available, and he's not going to be fit for months, then we should probably wait until January and see what's happening then'.

As it is, we could be going into January with serious designs on a European place. That's a lot more attractive to a potential signing, rather than the anticipated slog against relegation we'd be selling to them in August.

We could have put that £5m towards signing a player who isn't injured, and has played at a level higher than the Championship. Someone to make that European dream a reality. Not Huddersfield's 5th choice striker.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:29 pm

We had and have a lot more thn £5 available. We have successfully swopped to 4411, but none of our 5 strikers and is suited to the 1 behind the front 1.
Wells offers something different to the other 4, but can't even get on bench now Wood is back fit. If Wells was the bees knees he would have displaced Sam on Sunday.

I want us to keep improving and getting a proper nr 10 is the next step come January. If we can do that and Leeds want Wells- - what's not to like?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:50 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:£5m for someone who's not fit enough, good enough, or even suits our system.

Played a blinder.

How many more signings are you going to write off?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:55 pm

ClaretTony wrote:How many more signings are you going to write off?

I've written off two signings: Legzdins and Wells.

That's because they're nowhere near good enough to play for us, and surprise, surprise, they haven't played for us.

Money down the drain. £5m for Wells!

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:58 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I've written off two signings: Legzdins and Wells.

That's because they're nowhere near good enough to play for us, and surprise, surprise, they haven't played for us.

Money down the drain. £5m for Wells!

Legzdins is in case the worst comes to the worst and we need a 4th choice keeper. Wells is a good player and offers pace which none of our current squad have got.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:22 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:There were quite a few people saying things along the lines of 'if Wells is the only player available, and he's not going to be fit for months, then we should probably wait until January and see what's happening then'.

As it is, we could be going into January with serious designs on a European place. That's a lot more attractive to a potential signing, rather than the anticipated slog against relegation we'd be selling to them in August.

We could have put that £5m towards signing a player who isn't injured, and has played at a level higher than the Championship. Someone to make that European dream a reality. Not Huddersfield's 5th choice striker.

You're like the man who buys three lottery tickets, wins the jackpot with one, and complains that he's wasted his money on the other two. You've had this sort of thing to complain about since Dyche arrived. Remember his first summer of signings? He signed Heaton, Arfield, Jones and Noble, all on frees. What a waste of money Noble was. Complain complain complain.

Incidentally, what do Heaton, Pope, Mee, Tarkowski, Gudmondsson, Arfield, Hendrick, and Barnes have in common? They hadn't played at a level higher than the Championship until we signed them. You could probably add Vokes and Wood to the list as well, because they'd played very few matches at a higher level. Don't assume that a player who hasn't played in the Premier will never be able to do it.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:22 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I've written off two signings: Legzdins and Wells.

That's because they're nowhere near good enough to play for us, and surprise, surprise, they haven't played for us.

Money down the drain. £5m for Wells!

So it's you who makes the decisions now is it on whether players are good enough?

Have you still not worked it out that Legzdins is here for no other reason than to be third choice goalkeeper?

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:03 pm

We should have got Jota.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:20 pm

I genuinely think wells will be better than Gray. Either way we have a player who can affect a game differently but there hasn't been much call for that barring the odd game where he may not have been fit enough. His time will come and the doubters will be proven wrong.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:26 pm

as much as I was underwhelmed by his signing I love it when players prove me wrong. I was underwhelmed when we signed
Heaton
Pope
Lowton
Ward
Arfield
Vokes
Barnes
Marney
etc etc

I cannot think of a single player who hasn't improved (a lot) under Dyche and his staff - Wells will be just fine

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:40 pm

Mala are you out Saturday?
If so bring a list.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Have you still not worked it out that Legzdins is here for no other reason than to be third choice goalkeeper?

Not exactly true, as soon as Tom got injured we moved for Lindegaard (sp) and he is now on the bench ahead of Legzdins.

This is the same Lindegaard who had been a free agent from July, and the same Legzdins we paid a fee for. Makes the Legzdins signing a strange one.

Either he was a panic buy or on arrival we found out he isn't even worth the risk of being on the bench for a competitive game due to ability.

There's been a c0ck up somewhere a long the line.

But it's not too bad if all we have to complain about is the 3rd choice goalkeeper.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:45 pm

MACCA wrote:Not exactly true, as soon as Tom got injured we moved for Lindegaard (sp) and he is now on the bench ahead of Legzdins.

This is the same Lindegaard who had been a free agent from July, and the same Legzdins we paid a fee for. Makes the Legzdins signing a strange one.

Either he was a panic buy or on arrival we found out he isn't even worth the risk of being on the bench for a competitive game due to ability.

There's been a c0ck up somewhere a long the line.

But it's not too bad if all we have to complain about is the 3rd choice goalkeeper.

No cock up at all - simply that we need three goalkeepers and fit ones. We had that at the start of the season when Legzdins came in (and if there was an interest in Lindegaard, I can confirm that he would not have been able to sign at that time). When Tom was injured, we needed another goalkeeper in if possible. By this time Lindegaard was available and was signed. That's he's gone ahead of Legzdins isn't really relevant at all.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:48 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:as much as I was underwhelmed by his signing I love it when players prove me wrong. I was underwhelmed when we signed
Heaton
Pope
Lowton
Ward
Arfield
Vokes
Barnes
Marney
etc etc

I cannot think of a single player who hasn't improved (a lot) under Dyche and his staff - Wells will be just fine

Jutkiewicz, Sordell, Reid, Taylor, Gilks, Noble, Smith, Green, Darikwa, Dane Richards, Chris Long, Joe Mills, Danny Lafferty......

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:53 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Jutkiewicz, Sordell, Reid, Taylor, Gilks, Noble, Smith, Green, Darikwa, Dane Richards, Chris Long, Joe Mills, Danny Lafferty......

Noble, Smith & Green - you are now having a go at signing dev squad players. Why have you not included Yao, Olomowewe & Leitch?

As for Danny Lafferty, that's six years ago now and he was better than the alternative we had at the time for left-back, a million times better.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:54 pm

Edit - point covered.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:54 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Noble, Smith & Green - you are now having a go at signing dev squad players. Why have you not included Yao, Olomowewe & Leitch?

As for Danny Lafferty, that's six years ago now and he was better than the alternative we had at the time for left-back, a million times better.

OK, take those out, and then look at the list.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:12 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:OK, take those out, and then look at the list.

So what? So bleeding what? I think most of us accept that Burnley FC, and Sean Dyche, haven't done every thing thing as well as they could possibly have done since day 1. But what of it? You're the only one looking at BFC in seventh place in the Premier (having played some very good, non-long ball football incidentally) and whingeing about how some of our reserve players are overpriced. It doesn't matter. You could do with supporting the cluib for better or for worse, and if "for worse" means that we have a reserve player who you don't think is good enough, then suck it up. There have been times in BFC's history when there have been worse problems than this.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:No cock up at all - simply that we need three goalkeepers and fit ones. We had that at the start of the season when Legzdins came in (and if there was an interest in Lindegaard, I can confirm that he would not have been able to sign at that time). When Tom was injured, we needed another goalkeeper in if possible. By this time Lindegaard was available and was signed. That's he's gone ahead of Legzdins isn't really relevant at all.

I struggle to believe we couldn't have signed him the summer if we really wanted him. Let's not forget he was released by PNE, so highly doubt he would have turned a premier league move down.
Anyway it's irrelevant.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:20 pm

I'd love to see an equivalent list posted on here by a West Ham or Sunderland fan........... They'd be hard pressed to find much of a handful in the "good" column to start to balance it up.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:36 pm

The club is clearl;y getting something wrong here.
our reserves (stand-ins, or whatever you want to call them) are cheaper than the nailed on first choice.
Daft, I call it

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:42 pm

Stayingup wrote:We should have got Jota.

100% agree, that guy ripping up the Championship for 21st placed Birmingham City would have been a great buy!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:20 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Jutkiewicz, Sordell, Reid, Taylor, Gilks, Noble, Smith, Green, Darikwa, Dane Richards, Chris Long, Joe Mills, Danny Lafferty......

yep, not one of them is here anymore - those I listed have improved and are still here. Taylor was at the end of his career so was never going to improve - the rest are rubbish

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:06 pm

No doubt we will marvel how well he slots in and plays a blinder, when he gets his moment.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:18 am

Vegas Claret wrote:yep, not one of them is here anymore - those I listed have improved and are still here. Taylor was at the end of his career so was never going to improve - the rest are rubbish

You said

Vegas Claret wrote:I cannot think of a single player who hasn't improved (a lot) under Dyche and his staff

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:38 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:You said

yep, and they probably all did improve - just not to the level we required

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:12 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Jutkiewicz, Sordell, Reid, Taylor, Gilks, Noble, Smith, Green, Darikwa, Dane Richards, Chris Long, Joe Mills, Danny Lafferty......

What, exactly, was wrong with Darikwa?

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:22 pm

Whilst we are talking first choice/reserve players here's a question I never thought I'd ask but it's brilliant to be able to ask it, who is now our first choice goalkeeper? Just how fit and recovered will Heaton have to be now to get his place back. Do any clubs have TWO goalkeepers of the quality of Pope and Heaton? We are remarkably well blessed to have both of them at the same time. Like most others I worried when Heaton got injured, sickened by it in fact. How wrong was I? Pope has been magnificent since coming in, I genuinely believe that we have two of the best English goalkeepers around.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:27 pm

houseboy wrote:What, exactly, was wrong with Darikwa?

Touch, passing, positioning........

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:56 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Touch, passing, positioning........

Positioning arguably but other than that he was fine and certainly a good reserve. Who have we got in that position at the moment to fill in if we get an injury or suspension?

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:00 pm

I'm not writing him off but I'm not writing him on either until he plays for us. Its alright if you can talk the talk but its your attitude on the pitch that counts. I'm sure out of all our players Dyche wasn't the "happiest" with Gray's attitude so if there is an improvement there it will be great.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:03 pm

houseboy wrote:Positioning arguably but other than that he was fine and certainly a good reserve. Who have we got in that position at the moment to fill in if we get an injury or suspension?

Phil Bardsley

50 shades of Grey · Post by **50 shades of Grey** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:18 pm

Just logged in to say 'STOP THE FOO KIN WHINGING AND GRIPING, WE ARE SEVENTH IN THE PREM, PLAYING SOME OF THE BEST FOOTBALL SEEN IN A CLARET SHIRT FOR OVER FORTY YEARS, FFS''.

People producing lists of players that, according to them (what with them being the footballing font of all knowledge) haven't improved under Dyche. Who gives a sh-it? No disrespect, but nobody on God's earth is going to turn some of them on Up his own bum holes' list into world beaters. Nobody.

Just what do some people want, I honestly give up.

UTC NNN.