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All midweek matches to be shown live in next TV Deal

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:22 am

Article from Daily Telegraph who have seen the tender document from the Premier League re: 2019-2022 television.

Includes

8 Saturday night games
3 midweek games per club & 1 Bank Holiday game per club with all 40 games being shown live.
200 of 380 games to be shown live.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:24 am

Will kill the game eventually.

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:30 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Will kill the game eventually.
We keep saying that but it just keeps going and going. There has to be a limit though surely or we will reach the point where every game is shown live. Will be interesting though to see the effect of 20 games being shown in one midweek, presumably over two nights.

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Post by burnleytom » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:41 am

Might be being an idiot, but it looks like one broadcaster has the option to do this bumper 'all midweek' option, so realistically, BT or Sky.

Won't that mean they need 10 channels for this? How are they going to manage that, just create a channel for one night? Sounds like more hassle than it's worth....

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Post by burnleytom » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:44 am

ClaretTony wrote: Will be interesting though to see the effect of 20 games being shown in one midweek, presumably over two nights.
This threw me! It's 10 games for 2 midweeks, not 20, which means 5 a night, over 2 nights, which they can cope with channel wise. Presume with Bank Holiday they will stagger kick-offs across multiple channels?

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Post by dsr » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:45 am

burnleytom wrote:Might be being an idiot, but it looks like one broadcaster has the option to do this bumper 'all midweek' option, so realistically, BT or Sky.

Won't that mean they need 10 channels for this? How are they going to manage that, just create a channel for one night? Sounds like more hassle than it's worth....
Sky has the red button, so they have no problem. BBC could do that as well. Do BT have a red button? I've never looked.

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Post by Steve1956 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:45 am

The start of the money drying up ! And the death of English football ......just like Italian football sad but true
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Post by bfcmik » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:23 am

burnleytom wrote:This threw me! It's 10 games for 2 midweeks, not 20, which means 5 a night, over 2 nights, which they can cope with channel wise. Presume with Bank Holiday they will stagger kick-offs across multiple channels?
There is also no need to have all 10 games on the same week. Spare midweeks are at a premium for those playing in European competitions but the rest of the division could play on the same night as a Champions League gamenight.

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Post by dsr » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:14 am

bfcmik wrote:There is also no need to have all 10 games on the same week. Spare midweeks are at a premium for those playing in European competitions but the rest of the division could play on the same night as a Champions League gamenight.
I don't think they're allowed - no top level league games allowed on European nights by UEFA rules.

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Post by superdimitri » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:16 am

Every game is already shown live somewhere
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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:07 am

been doing it over here in trumpville since the last deal. The way I read the potential new deal is that the option to show all games will only be available on the midweek games when no lower league games take place

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Post by Commy » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:13 am

Here come Amazon so people will have to pay for 3 lots if they want to watch :( . It's bad enough paying for Sky and BT.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:18 am

Steve1956 wrote:The start of the money drying up ! And the death of English football ......just like Italian football sad but true
I don't see the money drying up anytime soon - the most competitive top flight league in the World. It's absolutely essential we stay in the PL as it will soon get to the stage (if we aren't already there) that promoted teams wont be able to even remotely compete

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Post by Tinribs » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:47 am

They have realised that anyone with the right equipment can watch any premier league game they want anyway.they are all shown live throughout the world so why not just stick them on the TV anyway.Will not affect attendances the premier league grounds aren't exactly awash with spare seats are they.
About time I say.

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Post by Sidney1st » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:50 am

Great news for me and other fans who have to travel long distances for home games.

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Post by Inchy » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:59 am

I give it ten years until most matches are shown on either Amazon, facebook, youtube, google, etc, and it will cost us peanuts to watch it.


IMO Sky might not be able to compete with the above.

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Post by NL Claret » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:12 am

Commy wrote:Here come Amazon so people will have to pay for 3 lots if they want to watch :( . It's bad enough paying for Sky and BT.
You don't have to pay, got rid of sky 5 years and haven't missed it. Would never go back to paying for TV.

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Post by piston broke » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:26 am

They could go for the EL option of 6pm and 8pm kickoffs the same night.
They could then spread it over Tues, Wed, Thurs.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:28 am

Might be being an idiot, but it looks like one broadcaster has the option to do this bumper 'all midweek' option, so realistically, BT or Sky.

Won't that mean they need 10 channels for this? How are they going to manage that, just create a channel for one night? Sounds like more hassle than it's worth....
BT do that on champions league and Europa league nights now. Won't be an issue.

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:43 am

burnleytom wrote:Might be being an idiot, but it looks like one broadcaster has the option to do this bumper 'all midweek' option, so realistically, BT or Sky.

Won't that mean they need 10 channels for this? How are they going to manage that, just create a channel for one night? Sounds like more hassle than it's worth....
Amazon & Facebook are potential bidders so not necessarily Sky/BT, but the Telegraph does show the midweek/BH games as two packages so could go to two different bidders.

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Post by NottsClaret » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:54 am

The more that's on telly, the less interest I have in it. I could manage one 'Super Sunday' game a few years ago but rarely watch anything now there's games on all weekend. Obviously Scudamore wants to be able to say 'look, another record deal', but how many more games does he have to give away now than 10 years ago to keep the cash coming in?

Going to a match is 10 times better than any TV game. That and MoTD is enough for me, as for paying to watch on telly.. jeez, no chance.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:58 am

It was always going to happen.

BT give you access to every Champions league game with the red button and Sky give you instant footage of every championship goal during the week already.
It will have more of an impact on attendances than Saturday 3pm kick offs though as people are less likely to travel more than an hour if they can watch it at home.

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Post by FactualFrank » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:06 am

I hope Sky Sports get the majority over BT. I'm surprised Sky Sports have the Merseyside and Manchester derbies this Sunday, as BT Sport seem to get the biggest fixtures, whenver I look.

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Post by Ric_C » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:10 am

We might as well ride the gravy train whilst we can.

The moment the big clubs start negotiating their own tv deals is when it will be all over (in terms of competing with them) for clubs like us. Hopefully this will never happen, but you never know.

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Post by mealdeal » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:12 am

NL Claret wrote:You don't have to pay, got rid of sky 5 years and haven't missed it. Would never go back to paying for TV.
You DO have to pay for it - its this attitude that will kill it eventually. People have to realise that you can't just leech content, you have to pay for it otherwise there is no incentive to make or provide it.

EDIT. Might have been harsh on NL Claret, it depends on whether he has got rid of pay TV and doesn't just take it from other sources.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:41 am

NottsClaret wrote:The more that's on telly, the less interest I have in it. I could manage one 'Super Sunday' game a few years ago but rarely watch anything now there's games on all weekend. Obviously Scudamore wants to be able to say 'look, another record deal', but how many more games does he have to give away now than 10 years ago to keep the cash coming in?

Going to a match is 10 times better than any TV game. That and MoTD is enough for me, as for paying to watch on telly.. jeez, no chance.
Exactly same. I cant remember the last time i watched super sunday. Theres actually too many games. Id be more inclined to watch as i did back in the day if it was just arsenal v man u sunday or liverpool v newcastle midweek etc. One game but you knew entertainment wqs guaranteed. I genuinely dont remember the last sunday game i watched and ive more spare time on sunday than when i used to play myself.

Actually think BT sports decent value and enjoy watching the odd european game. But theres no novelty.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:44 am

ClaretTony wrote:We keep saying that but it just keeps going and going. There has to be a limit though surely or we will reach the point where every game is shown live. Will be interesting though to see the effect of 20 games being shown in one midweek, presumably over two nights.
True. But eventually it will get go a stage where it does. It happened with serie a and theyve still not recovered fully.

Theres zero novelty to a game in tv either. Theres so many games on tv and so much money that if and when it does go bust fans will be picking up the pieces with ticket increases and they wont pay it. Imo anyway.

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Post by fatboy47 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:58 am

""I like my football

On a Saturday

Roast beef on Sundays, all right,

I go to Blackpool

For my holidays...""


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Post by CFS » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:30 am

Give it 5 years you will have ST's for your team to watch all games on tele.

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Post by Steve1956 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:34 am

Vegas Claret wrote:I don't see the money drying up anytime soon - the most competitive top flight league in the World. It's absolutely essential we stay in the PL as it will soon get to the stage (if we aren't already there) that promoted teams wont be able to even remotely compete
Wasn't the Italian league the most competitive league in the world at one stage and awash with cash?... Now it's shite and broken,and they can't even qualify for the World Cup,this money won't be around for ever.... :roll:

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Post by Chester Perry » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:46 am

CFS wrote:Give it 5 years you will have ST's for your team to watch all games on tele.
and the big clubs will then be saying they want their share of season tickets for their matches - then we will truly see the what the magic money tree can do for the few - will make la liga in the noughties look very eve and fair by comparison

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Post by piston broke » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:54 am

So are we all agreed our capacity is about right?

What will probably happen is that attendances will decline. Clubs will not want to play in half empty stadiums so will bring down tickets. They will more than covered the lost match day revenue with the TV money.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:17 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Wasn't the Italian league the most competitive league in the world at one stage and awash with cash?... Now it's shite and broken,and they can't even qualify for the World Cup,this money won't be around for ever.... :roll:
Not at all, when the money was around there was a top 5 or 6 and the rest were rubbish. I'm not saying the money will be around forever but there is no sign of it diminishing - the next deal TV will be worth even more

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Post by Grimsby Claret » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:18 pm

Football should be played 3pm kick off on a Saturday afternoon.
Attendances will suffer.

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